hornetguy
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If the screwdriver blade was also a caplifter, yes.Serious question, would anyone be interested in a tl29 type with snazzy covers?
If the screwdriver blade was also a caplifter, yes.Serious question, would anyone be interested in a tl29 type with snazzy covers?
All the GEC forum knives turned out great and the GEC dealers amazing.
The 2018 Forum knife (2 blade Buck 301) turned out daRn nice, and SK Blades is an Amazing dealer, too.
I'm sure GEC makes a fine knife, and I will never "bash" them.
I'll never own one (unless one is gifted to me, and there is a less than zero percent chance of that happening) as they are far outside my price range, and I've read here on the forums that they regularly have a … "difficult" … shall we say? average pull of over 7 or 8.
I'm sorry, but a heavy pull is a "deal killer" for me. I have less than zero desire to fight with my knife to open it.
A heavy pull does not make a slipjoint "safer"; quite the opposite, in fact.
A backspring does NOT keep the blade from closing when in use. The normal cutting action forces the blade open. A back spring only needs to keep the knife from opening on your pocket when not in use, and to keep the blade from flopping half closed when open but not cutting anything at the moment.
It seems to me (and I may be mistaken) that GEC concentrates on the "Collector"/"Safe Queen" market.
The number of knives of every run of every pattern made, is far short of meeting the demand for that pattern or patterns.
Yes. I understand GEC is a relatively small manufacturer, and may lack the manufacturing capacity to meet demand.
I don't know if that is the reason they do not make enough of any pattern to meet the demand.
I do not possess a safe. Hence I have no need or use for a "safe queen". (Truth to tell, even if I did possess a safe, I would still have no use for a "Safe Queen", just as I have no use for a gun, (regardless of how fancy and pretty) that is only suitable to be used as a "wall hanger".)
I am not, never have been, and never will be, among those GEC wants for a customer.
If I want a knife, I want it now.
I do not want to spend weeks, months, or longer trying to find one on the secondary market at an inflated price.
Nor do I have any desire to wait possibly more years than I have left for them to do another run, and hope that they do not sell out in 10 or 15 seconds (or inside 2 minutes at the most), after it is released.
From what I've seen, GEC gives us one … maybe two choices of whichever pattern or patterns they have scheduled to produce, and limit the options pretty much to one or two handle materials and/or if there is a shield.
Buck. on the other hand, gave us a choice of any knife in their line-up; slipjoint, lockback, and fixed blade. We had a choice of at least five different blade steels, a choice of natural or synthetic covers, and several choices with-in both categories. On the multi-blade knives, we were obviously given a choice of how many and which blades, since the 2018 Forum Knife was a 301 Stockman, which is normally a three blade knife, and the Forum knife has but two. (The majority vote was to omit the Spey/Budding blade ) We also had a choice of nail nick or long pull - on one or both blades.
In short, many more options than GEC has ever offered … at least since I have been a member of the forum, at any rate.
I won't be able to buy a 2020 forum knife, if there is one, due to budgetary matters.
From the majority of comments in this thread, even though "non-binding", indicate the 2020 knife (if there is one) will be a teeny tiny sub 3 1/2 inch closed, GEC (if they are willing to bother with us again), most likely a single blade, that I would have no interest in getting anyway.
I prefer knives that are 4 inch and larger closed, and are multi-blade.
Since there is virtually no possibility that I will be getting a forum knife anyway, I'm out of here.
Have fun, y'all.
You could hide a Hobbit in that mushroom, brother. Good gracious!I think everything you've mentioned are all very valid points and criticisms, I appreciate you taking the time to state them. All too often, folks simply say "GEC sucks" and never bother to really elaborate on why they feel that way.
To the point of safe queens - I do think that the GEC market reflects a strong leaning towards the collectors in us all. They sure to do look pretty in a case... However, they make for fantastic working cutlery too and I think anyone who has put a GEC through any amount of decent use can attest to that. That doesn't refute your point at all, I just want to point out that they can be used just as well as they can look pretty behind glass.
This is one of my most used and carried GECs, it is a remarkable working knife.
Who makes those?
You could hide a Hobbit in that mushroom, brother. Good gracious!
That would be good news. Much better than having Queen and Schatt & Morgan become another Frost owned name made overseas.I believe most Bluegrass knives over the years were made at Queen. And the main buyer at the Queen bankruptcy auction was from Bluegrass, and their intention is to set up all the Queen equipment they purchased, and make their knives at the factory in Ohio, focusing on the Schatt & Morgan line primarily, along with a few others like Winchester, etc. The last I heard they were hoping to have a S&M release ready for dealers sometime in 2020. I'm not sure at what point they intend to be officially "up and running" though.
My understanding (which may well be incorrect) is that they've always been contract knives. At times by Queen or Camillus. If they are currently made in the US, that would probably mean either Bear mfg. or Utica.
Kinda thought it was entertaining that this is a GEC thread.. Same old Same old..
I wouldn't get that bent out of shape over the 1%.I was thinking about a knife from a company that doesn't have a ravenous following like Great Eastern, just to keep the value down. The value should be in what the knife represents, not a monetary one. I'm tired of seeing the wolves at our doorstep trying to make a quick profit on the hard work of others and the good will of the Porch members. The base principles of the Porch is that it doesn't matter what the knife is worth but that you find value in the other aspects of it.
I like the Utica idea actually, they may be willing to do it because if I'm not mistaken they already produce knives for other companies,I.E. Klien. I would tend to steer away from Bear as their quality is spotty at best.Hey folks, how about Bear and Utica?
Someone refresh my memory how the buck forums knife went overall. My recollection was less than stellar. ... Regarding price, wasn't the buck knife more expensive than this years GEC afishhunter