The unofficial, non binding, carries no weight, 2021 forum knife possibility discussion thread

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The Tale of Gustave The Naughty Narwhale.

In the freezing waters off the coast of Porcharctica where no one ever goes because it is too cold and grey there lived an enormous Blessing of Narwhales. Everyday they plunged and splashed,and splashed and plunged. They led happy lives digging around in the seabed for treasure and gobbling contentedly on the kelp....All except for Gustave.
Gustave was an unhappy Narwhale and I'm afraid to say...not at all friendly with his playmates.He did not like splashing nor plunging and he thought tusks were cumbersome and stupid. Gustave spent his days hanging out in New Porchford Harbour watching the whaling ships and other vessels coming and going. Gustaves Mum and Dad worried about him a lot..but he would not listen.
Soon it would be time for Gustave to purchase his first tusk and have it attached to his melon in the ceremony of Tusking.
"Bugger that!" grumbled Gustave, " I'm not having a tusk I'm going to be different from alll the other Narwhales in the Blessing!!"
So off he went to the harbour where his appearance had become something of a tourist attraction among the Porchenbergers and people had flocked in from neighbouring towns to see the strange little creature with no tusk who was different from the others.
Gustave was lolling about one morning when a strange voice called his name...strange because it was using a megaphone from the deck of a passenger ship.It sounded a lot like that voice off the yellow submarine song by The Beatles.
" AHOYY ahoy Gustave.." it said," I'm Captain Flippenny...would you like to come aboard?"
Righto thought Gustave...I'm there.
A huge net lowered down ..."Ahoy Gustave just jump into the net." Ordered Capt.Flippenny.
The net hoisted Gustave clean out the water and over onto the ship. Gustave noticed there were no passenger deckchairs but lots of crew in stripey shirts and some shady looking businessmen with sunglasses and big cigars.
A hatch opened in the deck and Gustave was plopped into a big tank of water. The hatch slammed shut and as his eyes adjusted to the dark he saw that there were some Orcas and a big Stingray in there.
"Www..where am I ?" asked Gustave.
"On the SeaLand Catching Boat dummy "
" Whats Sea L LLand ?"asked Gustave nervously.
"" HAA HAA HAAARRRRrrr...he don't even know what Sea Land is mateys." Laughed the horrid old Stingray in a piratey sounding voice..."where be ye horn Blubber brain? Why be ye not like other Narrr...whales? " The Orcas surrounded Gustave and snickered openly.
"If you aint got no horn how're ye gunna impale the keepers? "
"Arrr oi wish Oi ad me one them orrns " said one of the Orcas ." Oim jes gunna eats moi trainer ,these ere lads be gunna smash em into the soide o the pool ...and then weze gunna jump out loike Free Willy.."
"And I be gunr act all friendly loike and when they come down in the shallow bit for selfies Oill sting em t death ...harr give em a good ol Irwinner!"
Oh Dear thought Gustave....maybe it would better if I was the same as all the other Narwhales....maybe Captain Flippenny will sell me to a friendly oceanarium for a huge profit.
 
Curious what GEC has in store for their regular run 86s. Would it be possible to ask to make sure we’re not choosing something that is planned as a production run? I’m sure the odds might be low for a copy and I’ll honestly be happy with any of the cover choices @waverave has posted, but think it would be cool if we got something a little different than the regular runs.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
If I may...

From what I understand, the BF knife was basically created for the traditional folks. Correct me if I am wrong. Nicely, please. :)
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I don't know if you're wrong, and I see others saying this. But the rules for participating in this do not require participating in the Traditionals subforum. And the tang stamps on past knives seem to say "Bladeforums", not "BF Traditional Subforum".

I think it would be interesting to see an official opinion on this. @Peregrin Boru13 Boru13 ?
-Tyson
 
bbfish said:
Curious what GEC has in store for their regular run 86s. Would it be possible to ask to make sure we’re not choosing something that is planned as a production run? I’m sure the odds might be low for a copy and I’ll honestly be happy with any of the cover choices @waverave has posted, but think it would be cool if we got something a little different than the regular runs.
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This was my thought as well.
 
bbfish said:
Curious what GEC has in store for their regular run 86s. Would it be possible to ask to make sure we’re not choosing something that is planned as a production run? I’m sure the odds might be low for a copy and I’ll honestly be happy with any of the cover choices @waverave has posted, but think it would be cool if we got something a little different than the regular runs.
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I feel like we just got 86s so it'd be interesting to see what other cover materials/colors they use and if they'll all be single clip points. Or, what if they do the exact opposite of what they did in 2019 where the forum knife is a clip point and the rest are sheepsfoot...
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
If I may...

From what I understand, the BF knife was basically created for the traditional folks. Correct me if I am wrong. Nicely, please. :)

The folks here are discerning and generally overall quite welcoming. I got re-interested in slipjoints a few years ago and decided to step up onto the Porch. It was a little nerve wracking. I read a lot before posting, I was new to slipjoints, and new to the Porch.

Reading was a must before posting...I see the Porch as a 10+ year recording of a country phone party line. It’s like a family here. But you can’t just jump on the line, you introduce yourself, read, listen, and post when you are comfortable.

Members have been accepting of me, which is fantastic. Even members I’ve had a squabble with are holding no ill will.

This is the Porch. People who love traditional knives enough to take things personal, whether intentional or not.

I trust the Traditional Area’s moderators to make their judgement call and will support it. I was chastised very nicely on my second post in the traditional section for posting a modern knife accidentally. Apologized and moved on.

It’s just knives folks...stuff you can’t take with you, and is moot in the grand scheme of things. I’ve never seen a hurst pulling a uhaul!

Remember the relationships that we have made here. And the BF 2021 knife will work itself out.

I’m blessed to have access to BF and to be able to participate. Ya’ll are great.

Keep the Porch spirit!

Edit to clarify: I was just stating the origin of the Traditional BF knife. Not saying only Porch dwellers should be able to buy it. :)
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I agree with your sentiments 100% and my entry to the Porch was very much the same.

I lurked for quite some time before I started becoming comfortable posting. Even longer before I was comfortable enough to ask questions and post pictures. It wasn't because the atmosphere was unfriendly, but rather because you could feel the passion emanating from what people posted, and coming from modern knives, I wanted to understand that more (didn't take long!). The welcoming I received when I DID start posting was overwhelmingly positive and friendly. It's the main reason I now call this forum my "home", and have it set as my homepage. My ignorance did have to be corrected occasionally, but it was all done without malice and I learned something from it.

Like you, there are regular posters in here that I have had squabbles with elsewhere. I've always taken the "leave it at the door" approach when entering the Traditional forum. We are all here for the love of traditional knives (flippers excluded) and at least have that common ground. No reason for us not to all get along in here, although I understand our passion can get away from us occasionally.

I have faith that the wonderful mods of this forum will handle this the best it can be handled.

I do gotta wonder though... Is there a plan if the number of knives requested ends up being 1000+ or something like that?
 
Tyson A Wright said:
I don't know if you're wrong, and I see others saying this. But the rules for participating in this do not require participating in the Traditionals subforum. And the tang stamps on past knives seem to say "Bladeforums", not "BF Traditional Subforum".
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I think there might have been a problem fitting that on the tang-stamp! :D It's simply a matter of historical record, there used used to be an annual BF knife, which was a modern folder, various other sub-forums (eg Buck) have produced their own knives, and we have had our own annual traditional sub-forum knife :thumbsup:
 
Jack Black said:
I think there might have been a problem fitting that on the tang-stamp! :D It's simply a matter of historical record, there used used to be an annual BF knife, which was a modern folder, various other sub-forums (eg Buck) have produced their own knives, and we have had our own annual traditional sub-forum knife :thumbsup:
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I get your argument, but the new thread to count participation calls it the "BF knife" - no mention of subforum. 6 of the 20 posts on the front page of this subforum (not counting stickies) include the word "tradtional", and another 12 include something that makes it obvious that it's about traditionals (the word "splitback", or "GEC", or "Case" or something). Only the patina thread and "The unofficial, non binding, carries no weight, 2021 forum knife possibility discussion thread" don't make it clear that they're about traditionals. (Also, please note that even that thread title says "forum", not "subforum".)
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And the argument you make, while compelling, I only see being made by regular members, not moderators. The point of my post is to ask someone who can speak on behalf of Bladeforums what the official position is on this. One way or the other is fine with me, but it keeps getting brought up, and without Boru13 Boru13 weighing in, it's just somebody's opinion.

-Tyson
 
Tyson A Wright said:
I get your argument, but the new thread to count participation calls it the "BF knife" - no mention of subforum. 6 of the 20 posts on the front page of this subforum (not counting stickies) include the word "tradtional", and another 12 include something that makes it obvious that it's about traditionals (the word "splitback", or "GEC", or "Case" or something). Only the patina thread and "The unofficial, non binding, carries no weight, 2021 forum knife possibility discussion thread" don't make it clear that they're about traditionals. (Also, please note that even that thread title says "forum", not "subforum".)
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And the argument you make, while compelling, I only see being made by regular members, not moderators. The point of my post is to ask someone who can speak on behalf of Bladeforums what the official position is on this. One way or the other is fine with me, but it keeps getting brought up, and without Boru13 Boru13 weighing in, it's just somebody's opinion.

-Tyson
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I thought that this post from one of the BF Moderators was clearly stating requirements:


Peregrin said:
I'm not going to belabor this, but the requirements that were posted have been the requirements, for the most part, for a number of years now. The membership requirement being 3 months. The posting requirement, less selling and trading, is 25 posts anywhere in BladeForums. As long as both of those are met, and you're not a flipper (we have been keeping a list of known flippers), you qualify.
Slice and dice it anyway you want, but unless something changes that's the deal.

We'd also like to see some folks sign up for paid memberships, to say thanks to the forum owner, Kevin.
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'Spark' is the owner of Bladeforums and he has to give permission for any Bladeforums knife no matter what subform it comes from, it is certainly not the exclusive property/provenance of any subform.

The tang-stamps with the name Bladeforums and dots began apparently in 2011 when GEC made the first of many Forum Knives, this continued until last year 2020 when stamping M390 by Viper became impractical and instead the Bladeforums logo was etched on the blade. Like all other Traditional knives it was voted on by interested Bladeforums members who either visited the Traditional subform to do so, lurk there, post there sometimes, post there a lot, consider themselves to be part of the furniture etc. In other words, a cross-section of Bladeforums members/posters as a whole.

If this is incorrect, a Moderator will be in a position to comment with accuracy.
 
Tyson A Wright said:
I get your argument, but the new thread to count participation calls it the "BF knife" - no mention of subforum. 6 of the 20 posts on the front page of this subforum (not counting stickies) include the word "tradtional", and another 12 include something that makes it obvious that it's about traditionals (the word "splitback", or "GEC", or "Case" or something). Only the patina thread and "The unofficial, non binding, carries no weight, 2021 forum knife possibility discussion thread" don't make it clear that they're about traditionals. (Also, please note that even that thread title says "forum", not "subforum".)
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And the argument you make, while compelling, I only see being made by regular members, not moderators. The point of my post is to ask someone who can speak on behalf of Bladeforums what the official position is on this. One way or the other is fine with me, but it keeps getting brought up, and without Boru13 Boru13 weighing in, it's just somebody's opinion.

-Tyson
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I'm not making an argument Tyson, I'm simply stating the facts. You can accept them or not, but any longstanding member of this forum will tell you the same. There used to be a whole process, in which members here voted on every single aspect of the knife (which took a long time). A committee of volunteers was then formed to organise the production of the knife. Spark, the site owner, not only gave his consent to use the BF stamp, but originally, he put up the cash, and handled the order :thumbsup:
 
Jack Black said:
I think there might have been a problem fitting that on the tang-stamp! :D It's simply a matter of historical record, there used used to be an annual BF knife, which was a modern folder, various other sub-forums (eg Buck) have produced their own knives, and we have had our own annual traditional sub-forum knife :thumbsup:
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Tyson A Wright said:
(Also, please note that even that thread title says "forum", not "subforum".)
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Probably...but the prefix 'sub' means that it is on the over arching Forum....we of the porch ( as it has come to be known colloquially but in no legally bindng sense ) are members of the entire Forum....hence subforum...I can see where there could be confusion...especially for verbal nitpickers.
The Porch is a colloquialism for The Tradtional Folders and Fixed Blades Subforum of BladeForums.com

Its no more complicated than that....
Cheers....oh btw I'm warming to white bone...the more yellowy kind..:):)

Who is Boru13 Boru13 ? BTW...and why is their input so vital?

Fixall Fixall Cheers...good words mate..reminds me of my experience in 2006....I came looking for sharpening advice....and look what they did to me..hhrrrff hhrrrf...bewaaarre.:p:D:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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Tyson A Wright said:
I get your argument, but the new thread to count participation calls it the "BF knife" - no mention of subforum. 6 of the 20 posts on the front page of this subforum (not counting stickies) include the word "tradtional", and another 12 include something that makes it obvious that it's about traditionals (the word "splitback", or "GEC", or "Case" or something). Only the patina thread and "The unofficial, non binding, carries no weight, 2021 forum knife possibility discussion thread" don't make it clear that they're about traditionals. (Also, please note that even that thread title says "forum", not "subforum".)
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And the argument you make, while compelling, I only see being made by regular members, not moderators. The point of my post is to ask someone who can speak on behalf of Bladeforums what the official position is on this. One way or the other is fine with me, but it keeps getting brought up, and without Boru13 Boru13 weighing in, it's just somebody's opinion.

-Tyson
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If you go back to my original posting and read it...I am talking about the origin of the traditional style BF knife.

A few moments later I edited to clairify that my statement was of origin, not intended to alienate any BF members who want to buy the knife.

If a member qualifies as per rules, they qualify. It is not my job to decide.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
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