The unofficial, non binding, carries no weight, 2021 forum knife possibility discussion thread

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Pàdruig said:
Interesting, John. Are you saying that GEC had their blade wrong on their lambsfoot?
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Harry nailed it below...

Old Engineer said:
By that I am assuming you are talking about the Slight Downward Cant of the blade .
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You are correct, Harry.

Let me start this by saying that I love my Charlie Lamb, this is not a "bash" of the knife. In fact, I think it is very well put-together, beautifully finished, and has amazing W&T. Had to say all that because if I say anything negative it's assumed i hate the knife, which is far from true. So, consider that the disclaimer. ;)

It simply comes down to the blade orientation for me. The way GEC centered their blade is very aesthetically pleasing, but in "use" it just doesn't work as well for me as my A Wright versions. With GEC's mix of long handle, sway back, and upward centered blade, it's much tougher to get the tip into the cutting surface than my other Lambs. It actually makes me cant my wrist a lot when using it to cut on flat surfaces.

I've included a couple of pictures to illustrate what I mean, the line runs through the center of the knives and take notice where the tip is in relation to the center of the knife. Once again, GEC's very aesthetic but I prefer the function of the A Wright's more... and that's what makes me carry them more.

The tip is even with the center line...


This one has a more severe cant downwards...


Here's a happy middle ground...
 
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JohnDF said:
Harry nailed it below...

You are correct, Harry.

Let me start this by saying that I love my Charlie Lamb, this is not a "bash" of the knife. In fact it is so very well put-together, beautifully finished, and has amazing W&T. Had to say all that because if I say anything negative it's assumed i hate the knife, which is far from true. So, consider that the disclaimer. ;)

It simply comes down to the blade orientation for me. Their straight blade is very aesthetically pleasing, but in "use" it just doesn't work as well for me. With the mix of long handle, sway back, and upward centered blade, it's much tougher to get the tip into the cutting surface than my other Lambs. Makes me cant my wrist a lot more when using it to cut on flat surfaces. I've included a couple of pictures to illustrate what I mean, the line runs through the center of both knives and notice where the tip is in relation to the center of the knife. Once again, very aesthetic but I prefer the function of the A Wright's more... and that's what makes me carry it more.



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I see what you mean and agree with you John . I guess I thought that Charlie's Lamb had more Cant than it actually does . I think my old TEW has more than it does . I also prefer a little more Cant , but I still would like to get another Charlie's Lambfoot .

Harry
 
Your photos really help to clarify the difference between the 2 knives, John! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Do you happen to have a shot of the ebony WCLF on that same "midline" that shows how far the butt of the handle must be tipped up to lower the point of the blade down in the neighborhood of where the A. Wright blade tip "lives" when its handle is horizontal (i.e., as in your second photo)?

- GT
 
OK this is all very well but the forthcoming Forum Knife is NOT going to be a Lambfoot made either by GEC or by Wright of England ;) Cantankerous ? :D
 
JohnDF said:
I am aware that you don't enjoy my postings, but there are at least a few that do.
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There are some days where a JohnDF post is one of the few that are worth reading.

I'm not sure if anyone's noticed how far forward the clip on the proposed 86 is. I believe I recall that was the case for the production run of 86's, too.
I think canted blades are more user friendly when I'm actually cutting things, but aesthetically canted blades look wrong to me.
I'd hardly call it a deal breaker for me, however. Some of my favorite knives have significantly canted blades.
(2017 Forum knife)
 
Interesting discussion... I was looking at peanut photos last night and can see inconsistencies in their blade cant as well. Looking at my 77 Barlow it looks like the clip blade belly cants noticeably downwards too. On the subject of the forum knife, I like when the spine and backspring are mostly in line, although given the belly and width of the blade shape that changes the downwards cant of the cutting edge.
 
ddavis said:
Interesting discussion... I was looking at peanut photos last night and can see inconsistencies in their blade cant as well. Looking at my 77 Barlow it looks like the clip blade belly cants noticeably downwards too. On the subject of the forum knife, I like when the spine and backspring are mostly in line, although given the belly and width of the blade shape that changes the downwards cant of the cutting edge.
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For as small as the peanut is the cant looks horrendous, but at the same time when I consider how small it is I cant help but imagine it makes it more user friendly.
 
JohnDF said:
but in "use" it just doesn't work as well for me as my A Wright versions. With GEC's mix of long handle, sway back, and upward centered blade, it's much tougher to get the tip into the cutting surface than my other Lambs. It actually makes me cant my wrist a lot when using it to cut on flat surfaces.
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You must be doing it wrong, again (think left coast open):eek::D:D

Will Power said:
OK this is all very well but the forthcoming Forum Knife is NOT going to be a Lambfoot made either by GEC or by Wright of England ;) Cantankerous ? :D
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JohnDF said:
I am aware that you don't enjoy my postings, but there are at least a few that do.
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I think Will is just talking about -why in this thread. Why so hostile?:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
What year of the previous forum knives had the largest quantity ordered? Have there been any over 500 yet?
 
JohnDF said:
Harry nailed it below...

You are correct, Harry.

Let me start this by saying that I love my Charlie Lamb, this is not a "bash" of the knife. In fact, I think it is very well put-together, beautifully finished, and has amazing W&T. Had to say all that because if I say anything negative it's assumed i hate the knife, which is far from true. So, consider that the disclaimer. ;)

It simply comes down to the blade orientation for me. The way GEC centered their blade is very aesthetically pleasing, but in "use" it just doesn't work as well for me as my A Wright versions. With GEC's mix of long handle, sway back, and upward centered blade, it's much tougher to get the tip into the cutting surface than my other Lambs. It actually makes me cant my wrist a lot when using it to cut on flat surfaces.

I've included a couple of pictures to illustrate what I mean, the line runs through the center of the knives and take notice where the tip is in relation to the center of the knife. Once again, GEC's very aesthetic but I prefer the function of the A Wright's more... and that's what makes me carry them more.

The tip is even with the center line...


This one has a more severe cant downwards...


Here's a happy middle ground...
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Thank you for the clarification, John. I thought that might have been what you were talking about - Harry, of course, extrapolated a bit more.

I am in respectful disagreement though. I have a couple of Lambsfoot knives that have more forward cant than others and they are my least favorite of my modest assortment. One of the features of Charlie's Lamb that sets it above most others in my collection, is the length of its blade and the elegance of its taper. It is one of the few knives that I own where I feel I could be happy with just that one in my pocket from here 'til I become worm food.

I have found it to be a very efficient cutter, in all of the ways I might need to cut something. Of course, there is nothing wrong with the other Lambsfoot knives that I own - especially the AWS offerings, I really do enjoy them all. I'd even love to compare a big 'un to the Waynorth Lambs at some point in the future.

With regards to forward blade cant though, I dislike it a lot - it always feels wrong in my hand. However, it just goes to show that there are features for us all - where one might not like something, another will adore it.
 
Pàdruig said:
One of the features of Charlie's Lamb that sets it above most others in my collection, is the length of its blade and the elegance of its taper. It is one of the few knives that I own where I feel I could be happy with just that one in my pocket from here 'til I become worm food.
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I agree with all that, it's a masterpiece to be sure.
I just prefer a slight downward cant to the blade, especially on a Lamb where the tip is the most effective part, and that would make it absolutely perfect for me.
 
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