The vanishing knife.

Of the four men that work in my library (me included), 3 carry a pocket knife of some sort that is not a box cutter. I think we all use them at least several times a week on the job, sometimes much more. Though I'm in my mid-40s, my male employees are all in their mid-20s. Most of my male relatives carry pocketknives at all times. Most of my male friends do, and so do many of the female ones.

My bet is that a lot depends on where you live. I live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and most of my relatives live in various parts of Texas.
 
I'm 31, and I've come into contact with a wide age range of people since I became a knifemaker (and before then as well), anywhere from 10yrs to 100yrs old. I've noticed that anyone who is into the outdoors, or cowboys, lovers of horses/cows/llamas/etc., active duty and retired military, hunters/sportsmen love knives and use them regularly, if not carry one daily. Also, gun people tend to at least like, if not love knives.

I just went to an Angels/Mariners game a few weeks back, and ended up selling a $200 knife to an army vet I randomly met in the stands, and this is in southern California, one of the most liberal places in the country.

I live just outside the los angeles area, and you could say it is pretty darn liberal and "big city" here (my particular area is about 300-400k people last I checked), there are still plenty of folks to be found, if you know where to look for them that is. ;)
 
Agree fully. I am 28 and always have a knife in my pocket or backpack. They are invaluable and constantly in use. I have been weighing getting a fixed blade, particularly a strider 0121 or a boker pry. I can say that I am leaning towards the strider. I have been looking at a techno from spyderco but a fixed would be nice.
 
I have actually been on a classic french knife kick lately. It was caused by the reaction of a family member ( not blood related that's for sure) became uncomfortable with my ti-milie. Any reason to buy a a new knife... or three. But yes what a strange time my grand father still walks around with his buck 110.
 
Agree fully. I am 28 and always have a knife in my pocket or backpack. They are invaluable and constantly in use. I have been weighing getting a fixed blade, particularly a strider 0121 or a boker pry. I can say that I am leaning towards the strider. I have been looking at a techno from spyderco but a fixed would be nice.



Good luck the 121 is discontinued. It is part of my edc and I love it immensely get one if you can.
 
Certainly, I can understand the allure of those memories of the golden yesteryears when polyester was a new miracle material and we all did our spring plowing with horses and mules. I get it. I also understand those who carry a knife as a signifier of their heritage, whatever that may mean to them. I've done the same sorts of things.

However, to refer to people who don't see the need for a knife on a daily basis and don't share our enjoyment of knives as a hobby (that's what it is, folks, for those who don't let it develop into a full blown fetish) as some how less masculine, less of a man, less of a person, is simply insane. And I mean that clinically. As in divorced from reality. To say nothig of sexually insecure. This, I do not get. Not everyone shares our hobby. Wow.

Some people like knives, but have little use for them. I'm in that demographic currently. Other people don't have any particular feeling one way or another for them and have no real, identifiable need for them. So, they don't carry one. I'm totally fine with that. I don't understand the attraction of Kindles, Nooks, and iPads. I like to think that doesn't reflect adversely on my sexual potency. Comes to that, I don't think anything reflects on my sexual potency but my sexual potency. I left junior high school behind a long time ago.

The poster who pointed out that things have changed in our society is correct, but I'm going to say that things changed a long time ago. We don't hunt our meat every day anymore. We don't walk around the bush from one place to another anymore. Few of us (less than 2%, last time I checked) even work in agriculture, that last bastion of supposed "need a knife every single day"-ness. I have a small farm and I rarely needed a knife to do the things I did there. Backhoe, yeah; tractor with a hay spear, definitely. But a knife, while nice to have and useful from time to time wasn't a huge requirement for me. My biggest knife need? Opening bags of range pellets for the cows. I carried a larger knife so I could slice both sides of the bag with one swipe, saving maybe three seconds per bag. Seriously. Sometimes I'd cut the netting from the round bales, but sometimes not. Other people have different ways of doing things and I'm perfectly OK with people who farm in a knife-intensive way--but that's now how I do it.

That said, I like knives. I like sharp, shiny objects, I guess. However, after repeated testing, I have found that no matter how sharp the knife, how large the knife, or how expensive the knife, my "equipment" remained the same size as before. Disappointing, really. I had hoped to reproduce the effects implied here.

Some people (like me) enjoy driving highly capable four wheel drive pick up trucks. But really, other than that one big red clay hill on my farm, I've never needed four wheel drive. Fun to have, but not really a need. Still, I like it and I can afford it, so I drive one. Most people have zero need for this sort of thing and see no reason to pay for it. I don't blame them, nor do I think less of them as human beings.

Again, things change. In my field, you used to be able to tell the engineers from the riff-raff by their expensive hand calculators (and before my time by their slide rules--which of you still carries a slide rule?). I have a calcultor on my phone that does everything I need it to do. Honestly, we simply don't do that much math once we get out of college. What math we do is usually done on either a spreadsheet, or a purpose-built piece of software that does the math on its own. So, I don't really need my HP-28S anymore. I'm not even sure where it is, actually.

Same same knives. At one point in our history, knives were needed for everything from opening the flour sack and bean can to trimming horse harness and prying open the cracker barrel. Things have changed. We have can openers and few of us ride horses to work every day. Nothing wrong with that; things have always been changing. In fact, things are so much better now than they were a hundred years ago, that I don't honestly understand this pining to live in a log cabin without running water. Seriously. I don't. Nor do the vast majority of people. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I've thought about this some. There are people who like to be prepared for weird, out of the ordinary things. I guess I'm one of them because I have a $500 pocketknife and a titanium prybar on my keychain--which I have never had the occasion to use. My Dad would think I'm insane. Yes, he carried a small stockman pocketknife for as long as I knew him, but he wasn't a "prepper", or to call them by their earlier name, a "survivalist". Other people don't feel the need to be prepared for weird, out of the ordinary things. I, as an example, never assembled an "earthquake survival kit" even though I lived in an earthquake prone area. That sort of thing didn't appeal to me. But, I don't believe I'm less of a manly man for refusing to do that.

So, I'm old and grumpy, but I honestly think the better way to introduce people to our hobby is to be nice to them and demonstrate the utility of our pretty, pretty knives. It's the pretty, pretty that hooks us, I think, but the demonstrated utility that will let someone bust open the check book on what really is pretty much man jewelry. Crappy attitudes toward other people eventually get reflected back to us. Be nice. It only hurts a little at first.
 
many white collar jobs involve flying and the FAA regulations makes EDC knife very impractical.
 
I understand well your point and you explained it very well... and I can only agree on the whole line. But you must admit I may chuckle when I see someone gnawing its way into a pack of chips or staying agast because the bottle of wine doesn't have a screw cap. I'm not a prepper, by the way, but my knife (knives) give me a lot of freedom of action... and they are pleasant to use. Who doesn't need some more pleasure in his life ? My knives are an unending source of pleasure. Being old and grumpy as ever can be, I thought I may voice up.
 
I am proud to say i am sixteen and turned down an offer to have the latest and greatest electronic device. My stepmom wants to give me her old kindle fire and then buy herself a new one. I told her i would have much more use for another folding knife. she disagreed so i just dropped it. It annoyed me a little actually. My stepmother does not see the point in knives at all. My dad carries a CRKT M16 usually, he doesn't use his other knives anymore. More of a gun nut. My stepfather usually has a slip joint or a cheap Chinese folder.

Oddly enough, my mother doesn't carry but she is the first to ask me what i want for my birthday. Shes gotten to the point where she expects a knife and doesn't find it strange at all.

Either way, whenever i get a new knife, the first one i hand it to is my little sister. She loves to learn about why i like that particular knife. My two younger brothers will carry knives when they are older, i will see to it that they, and my little sis do. ��
 
I'm 16 and I know plenty of people my age who carry a knife. Don't give up hope the knife and wristwatch aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
 
I'll echo the sentiments not to give up on the upcoming generation. More and more people in the 16-21 age group that I've seen even in the last few weeks since my last reply are carrying and/or appreciating knives. Proud to say I was ahead of the curve and have since helped convert some.
 
Most places won't let you use your own blade anymore you have to use their company issue safety utility knife and they are terrible.
 
It is strange that people today find basic tools such strange items. I suppose I am dating myself, but I am now surprised to see so many articles in magazines about pocket knives as objects that show your masculinity or introduce you to self-reliance or make you more authentic as an individual. Somehow, I do not feel that magazine about lifestyle should be needed to introduce people to tools as basic as pocketknives. I must be in the wrong generation or trapped in some kind of time warp. Scotty, beam me up.:D
 
I am now surprised to see so many articles in magazines about pocket knives as objects that show your masculinity or introduce you to self-reliance or make you more authentic as an individual.

Exactly.
I was just as much a masculine, self-reliantly authentic individual on the very few occasions I didn't have a knife with me...but damn, tearing those packets with my teeth and opening boxes with a key was immensely annoying! :)

Here's the great mystery of what a knife imparts: it allows you to cut things.
Which is really handy when you need to cut things.

It isn't a testosterone replacement, nor does it make up for any anatomical deficiencies.
And if it defines you as an individual, well then, boy howdy, but you have some huge issues to sort out. :D
 
I work at a large manufacturing global corp. 90% of workers carry a pocket knife. A majority of them, women included, carry the folding razor knives because because it suits their needs and the company gladly issues new blades. They even have used blade containers located at regular intervals so people and cleaning crews don't get cut on improperly discarded blades. Many of us also carry personal pocket or small sheath knives. People do not whip knives out and wave them around as it will cause problems. But we do openly bring in new stuff to show off and compare with others knives. Everyone is low key about it so no one gets offended. One time an engineer said that my knife was a wicked weapon. I corrected him by saying that it was just a tool, no different than hundreds of tools used there on a daily basis. He smiled and said "Good explanation, you have a good tool". A great many of use also carry things that require permits and must be concealed. We can not carry them at work but the methods of concealment stay with us. We keep our tools in quiet seclusion. The casual observer would never know what we have and may conclude that no one has anything. At least where I live every one of my friends has tools on his/her person. We are not dressed properly without them. It is so natural we don't even think about it. It is expected and appreciated. There are more people out there carrying various tools than most others realize.
 
I work at a large manufacturing global corp. 90% of workers carry a pocket knife. A majority of them, women included, carry the folding razor knives because because it suits their needs and the company gladly issues new blades. They even have used blade containers located at regular intervals so people and cleaning crews don't get cut on improperly discarded blades. Many of us also carry personal pocket or small sheath knives. People do not whip knives out and wave them around as it will cause problems. But we do openly bring in new stuff to show off and compare with others knives. Everyone is low key about it so no one gets offended. One time an engineer said that my knife was a wicked weapon. I corrected him by saying that it was just a tool, no different than hundreds of tools used there on a daily basis. He smiled and said "Good explanation, you have a good tool". A great many of use also carry things that require permits and must be concealed. We can not carry them at work but the methods of concealment stay with us. We keep our tools in quiet seclusion. The casual observer would never know what we have and may conclude that no one has anything. At least where I live every one of my friends has tools on his/her person. We are not dressed properly without them. It is so natural we don't even think about it. It is expected and appreciated. There are more people out there carrying various tools than most others realize.

Sounds like you've got the best place to work.
 
Great post NeilB.
Spot on.
I love my knives and primarily use them when there are plenty of other ways to achieve the same result. I just like to use them,even though a pair of scissors,finger nail, a careful rip or any other object would suffice.
Knives are fun, knives are cool, but in most cases , not necessary.

With that being said I am watching the World Series with a mini grip in my lfp, a RAT 1 clipped in my rfp, and a spyderco air in my shirt pocket which I am fondling whenever the Red Sox are at bat.
Go figure!
 
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