Theoretical evidence that the strider PT is better than the small sebenza

the only 2 variables that count in an argument like this are:

*what ya like, and

*what ya want.


both are good knives,
 
Theoreticly you can proove anything.
The best way to find out which one works better for you is to handle them both.
 
I have 'em both. Both are very nice, but if I were forced to pick just one, I'd go with the Sebenza.
 
knarfeng said:
So STR,
Did you make the knife you EDC? Is it the "bird and Trout" knife? If not, could you show us a picture?
Sorry for the side track. But your comments above made me really curious.
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Yep sure did. Well, had a little help with the blade on that one but it was something I wanted to do after doing something a while back for a customer so I repeated it for myself with a twist.

You can read about both in detail and my other recent lockback model I did here at these links below.

Thanks for asking.

STR

Here is the first one I did after being asked if I'd consider tackling it for my very good friend Dirk.
http://knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/776102/


And here are mine.

http://knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/784985/

http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/784694/
 
The real question is: which resembles the kind of car you'd like to drive but can't afford?

Like, 427 Cobra or Mercedes 450 SEL. NOTE: I didn't use vs. for a reason. They are two completely different designs that address the makers obvious preferences and usage. "Vs." implies some similar properties or purposes, which in this case amounts to a sharpened edge.

Flat ground vs. hollow ground? Different grinds for different purposes made different ways. Hollow grinds are easier and cheaper in production, have thinner edges, slice paper nice, and have issues chopping hard materials as the edge is weaker.
G10/Titanium handle vs. all titanium? G10 is warmer to the grip, or cooler if left in the sun. It comes in appropriate subdued colors. The Sebenza is silver, sometimes shiny from CNC decorations, and eye appealling. Different purposes, again, hard use or public consumption.
Smooth grip or tractor tread slots? I wear gloves at work, my small hands are not well calloused, but I prefer the slots. They were a problem at first, like wearing glasses the first time, but every metal handled knife I have owned I've dropped in handling. The slots on the Strider have never let go, and when you are in the field wearing gloves, you won't notice. And you won't drop the knife. Different purposes.

I could go on but it's obvious in comparison there is no basis for comparison. The features of each knife were selected for different priorities, and that is what you need to define in your usage.

Or choose what like to drive. Either knife is a lot more affordable.
 
Anbody see an actual count or number of "Strider Defects vs. who ever?"

Sure, there's been a few, like everybody. Puffed up by detractors? Seems to be. They are the only ones keeping score, and I sure don't trust them. Everytime the subject comes up, lots of posters complain like this, but no hard numbers except by owners like me who say,

"My SnG works just fine. No blade play, no problems locking up."

Blade play is unquantifiable. How much, by what length blade, is too much? Who says? And since when do blades have to be rock solid in a folder? You do plan on it being opened and closed, don't you? There will always be clearance to pivot.

You don't want blade play, buy a sharp pry bar. Most fixed blades flex anyway, fillet knives by design, what what is it with the blade play talk? In the day, folders without blade play were impossible to find. The concept didn't exist. Nobody cared.

Is it being said it's impossible to find a Sebenza without blade play? Anybody game to set themselves up for that?

Glad you brought it up - been playing with knives for 30 years and only until lately do I see it even mentioned. I bet my SnG with phosfor bronze washers will have a lot less blade play in two years compare to my Benchmades, Spydercos, CRKT's, Bucks, etc. becauses so many have plastic or teflon bushings. And they all rattle around real good already, some straight out of the box.

Blade play? A stage offering of two samurai in a musical?
 
my pt looks like it was made by a blind man in china with no ability to make knives-

but its in my pocket everyday- i do like the s30v heat treat of the blade
 
My PT has superb fit and finish , and is a hell of a lot tuffer than my small Sebbies . It is also a lot more secure in the grip department . It is designed for hard use , the Sebbie is a very nice Gents knife . For an EDC for a tradesman , I prefer the PT . If you want a politically correct gents knife , go with the sebbie , if you want a small hard use destroyer of worlds , go with the PT . I own both Striders and Sebs , and a Mnandi ( My fave dress knife ). Generally , I find the Mnandi makes more sence to me than the small Sebbie , similar capabilities , smaller envelope , just as tuff and has more class ! I defy you to put a small sebbie thru some of the stuff my PT has done - just one example , I regularly use it as a dive knife .For someone who does hard manual labor with gloves on the Sebbie dopesn't cut it .

Chris
 
My opinion: get which ever one you like the look of, and modify it such that it suits your tastes.

Small Seb doesn't have any finger coils? Grind your own.
G-10 too sharp for your hands? Sandpaper it.
Pocket clip too tight? Put an o-ring under it.

Both knives are great, so just pick the one that you like, and change the parts that you don't like.

I for one, thought that the bead blasted finish was lousy looking, and that the G-10 was not grippy enough, so I changed my PT into this:
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Please note that I did not improve the knife, but mearly made it more suitable to my tastes.
 
STR said:
Yep sure did. Well, had a little help with the blade on that one but it was something I wanted to do after doing something a while back for a customer so I repeated it for myself with a twist.

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Thank you.
 
noob3r, that's nice. Just about what I want on my SnG when I finally need to refinish it from all the daily user scuffs.
 
noob3r, your pt is rockin! Personally ive never handled a pt, so my experience is from SNG, SMF, and AR's, none of which dig in my hand, and my pants have no holes or tears from the pocket clips. sometimes the G10 is to sharp though, that i'll concede.

truthfully, at this level of knife, you should probably handle both of them and decide which one feels better to you.
 
cdf said:
My PT has superb fit and finish , and is a hell of a lot tuffer than my small Sebbies . It is also a lot more secure in the grip department . It is designed for hard use , the Sebbie is a very nice Gents knife . For an EDC for a tradesman , I prefer the PT . If you want a politically correct gents knife , go with the sebbie , if you want a small hard use destroyer of worlds , go with the PT . I own both Striders and Sebs , and a Mnandi ( My fave dress knife ). Generally , I find the Mnandi makes more sence to me than the small Sebbie , similar capabilities , smaller envelope , just as tuff and has more class ! I defy you to put a small sebbie thru some of the stuff my PT has done - just one example , I regularly use it as a dive knife .For someone who does hard manual labor with gloves on the Sebbie dopesn't cut it .

Chris
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Chris,

I'm curious, why you feel that the PT is so much stronger than the small Sebenza?

I can see your point about it being easier to open and handle with gloved hands, due to the rough texture and oval slot, but I have a hard time with your comparison here:

If you want a politically correct gents knife , go with the sebbie , if you want a small hard use destroyer of worlds , go with the PT .

I'd be willing to bet if tested to destruction the PT would fail first, despite the marketing hype.
 
I doubt that.

Take up a collection for a Sebbie and a Sng or PT, send them to me, or an impartial 3rd party and let them break them. with all the people for or against each company shouldnt be that hard to raise the cash.
 
What? You even dare to put up the idea that a Strider is better than a Sebenza? On this forum? ;)

UNBELIEVABLE!!! :eek:

Watch out for incoming!!! :D
 
I find all of these types of threads totally amusing.

Looking for the toughest, or toughest looking, or prettiest, or most finely machined, just tremendously the bestest folder is a pissing match put on by and for the entertainment of squatters.:D
 
im getting used to the incoming shells. lol. sad thing is i dont think one is better than the other, i think they are two totally different types of knives. lol. i just get annoyed with the "my hoo hoo is better than your hoo hoo" posts.
 
ignoramus said:
Theory without experience can only take you so far. There are plenty of people who have handled both and still prefer the Sebenzas (and vice versa). Handle both of them and then give your experience. Its all speculation prior to that.
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Really !!!!

This post is as far as I read in the thread since the starter is just going by what he read, not what he used or did.

Like the 426 Hemi Cuda vs the 427 Cobra just based on magazine articles and never even having SAT in either one, much less driven them.

Mental Masturbation!

Rob
 
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