This is what cliff is promoting

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gajinoz said:
Give it a miss, really! Everyone has their opinion of Cliff and I'm certain he has his opinions of many people here. Nobody really wants to hear it. you are not doing yourself any favours, believe me, just let it go.

Personal attacks are a good method to get yourself banned, just don't do it!
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Just wondering what it takes to get banned. Apparently the moderator needs to step in here.
 
Sebenza4Ever, if there were one single best knife, then there would only be one knife. Different people have different preferences, different budgets, different applications, different opinions. That is why the industry has such a wide array of available products - most of which find a useful home with an end user. If there were one best Spyderco, then there would be only one Spyderco. The same thing holds true for the one manufacturer's line that holds true for the entire industry.

It is fine to have preferences and fine to state them. I think it is off-base to criticize the preferences of others. When it comes to preferences, there is no right or wrong - just differences. Think about it.
 
Man this thread is a bunch of crap ain't it? I don't think I would buy another Sebenza now just cause of this sebenza fella. I happen to like spyderco's too. Cut when they are supposed to cut. The Sebbie I had I was afraid to use it cause it was so nice. Now I just carry a knife that I am not afraid to use or sharpen and I know I won't void the warraty on it by taking it apart to clean it or when I wrist flick it to open it. Crap is all I can say. Keepem sharp
 
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I don’t question his preference. I don’t question his expertise.


I question his enthusiasm to bad mouth Sebenza and his arrogance.
 
I suspect you Either:

A.) Dont even have any Sebenzas, but want to be cool and make others think you have cool knives.

B.) Bought Sebenza(s) because you thought they were awesome and would help you achieve some mystical knife owning social status.

C.) Have obsessive compulsive disorder. (a given)

so the answer is A,C or D,C- and whichever way you swing, the spamming has become very tiresome and pointless.

The fact that you hold a grudge against Spyderco because they dont charge 300 bucks for a pocket knife, and against Cliff Stamp for saying a lockback is stronger than a framelock- Is Lame.

Whine and cheese! You dont have knife issues, you have mental issues- invest in tissues. :D
Whine & Cheese!
 
Sebenza4ever said:
PWork

You think I am childish?
Maybe.

Do you think I am totally wrong?
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Yes, because Cliff does NOT single out sebenza's. Do a search and you will see he does reviews of all kinds of knives. If he had a vendeta against CRK then you would have an argument. But he reviews almost everything that comes down the pike. So.....what is the deal? End this man.
 
Rat Finkenstein

I have have mental issues?????

Who doesn’t?

We all have our little problems.

But I cant tick any of the answers to your multiple choice assumptions.
 
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Sebenza4ever said:
Rat Finkenstein

I have have mental issues?????

Who doesn’t?

We all have our little problems.
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At last, I got my answer! My prayers are with you man. Truly, I hope things work out for you.
 
Sebenza4ever said:
Do you think I am totally wrong?
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It is very rare to be totally anything. If you only read a small selection of what I have written, and only read a part of those posts, it is easy to see where your perspective could come from.

longbow said:
The Sebbie I had I was afraid to use it cause it was so nice.
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A lot of high end customs are like this, makers should offer user versions, no primary grind buffing for example.

-Cliff
 
Sebenza4ever said:
If you all can say with a clear conscious that I am totally wrong , than I will shut up.
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You are VERY wrong. Look at your reputation, it's RED, it was green yesterday. It's red because of this mission you're on. It's red because not many people agree with you, if any, but disagree with you.

I know some people don't care for some of the things Cliff says, but I find a lot of his comments interesting. Sure a lot of his tests go far beyond what many of us would do with a knife, but he does make a lot of good points.

So can you post some things Cliff has said that are false?

Here is Cliff pointing out how the Sebenza is inferior in certain aspects:

"It is inferior in many regards, compared to the M2 AFCK for example, it has lower ergonomics and handle security, significantly less edge retention and blade toughness and much lower lock security. Benchmade however tends to run their edges a bit thick so you would likely have to reprofile the AFCK in order to match the NIB cutting ability of the Sebenza. Many Spyderco's would easily match or exceed the cutting ability of the Sebenza NIB and easily outperform it in the other aspects listed, at a fraction of the price.

-Cliff"

He often posts these comments when people are wondering if they should get a Sebenza, or if a Manix or a Benchmade is good enough. He is simply pointing out that the Sebenza isn't really going to perform any better than a cheaper knife. Sure it has benefits as compared to a Manix, Benchmade, etc, but in the real world these benefits aren't that big of a deal to most people. So you can take it apart and clean it? I never took apart my BM710 and I carried it for 4 years with no problems. I just rinsed it out, dried it, lubed it, good as new. The Sebenza is finished nicer, but after taking it out a couple times my keys scratched the hell out of the handle, where my BM710's handle looks the same as when I first got it, after 4 years + of daily carry with my keys.

Cliff is simply pointing out performance issues. When it comes to the finish, the way the knife looks, that's all subjective. You may think the Sebenza is beautiful, other people call it a grey ****.

I like my Sebenza but I rarely carry it because my other knives blow it away as far as performance for what I like to do. I think it's well built, finished beautifully, a nice simple design, etc, but so what? There are many custom knives for the same price that are finished just as well or better, but they may not perform as well as a $100 knife.

It's fine if the Sebenza is your favorite knife and you feel it has no equal, but that doesn't give you the right to go out and attack other people who don't share the same opinion.

When people ask "Why Sebenza" everyone should be welcome to post their thoughts. You, Cliff, etc.
 
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