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Thoughts on authorized dealers raising GEC prices above the minimum sale price.
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I don't know- was it an insult? I think
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was commenting that your viewpoint might be skewed because of your selling habits. he might be incorrect, but it does certainly outwardly appear that you're much more concerned with knives as commodities. If you take it as an insult, then perhaps you're not as okay with flipping as you say?I think it's important to understand that just because something is legal doesn't mean it's morally the right choice to make. Flippers make money and produce no meaningful service. IMHO, flippers should donate their take to GEC and in-so-doing show appreciation for the people directly responsible for the popularity of the knives.
Really? Cool take. You're commenting on a thread solely dedicated complaining about the price of knives. Hmm...I wonder if that qualifies as "knives as commodities"I don't know- was it an insult? I think
I think it's important to understand that just because something is legal doesn't mean it's morally the right choice to make. Flippers make money and produce no meaningful service. IMHO, flippers should donate their take to GEC and in-so-doing show appreciation for the people directly responsible for the popularity of the knives.
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I see no insult? If you took it that way, that’s on you.
And as far off the mark as you are with my political views, this most definitely is not the place for it.
Nice avatar. I’m surprised it’s allowed here considering that organization has been classified as a terrorist group by the FBI for the last 20 years. And before you try claiming anti-Semitism... I’m Jewish.
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Anything can be a commodity. Just don't be so shocked when you walk into a room full of enthusiasts and your met with distain for taking the opinion that flipping is morally fine. It's not fine. It's legal, but it's the act of an opportunist who has produced no real value. That's my opinion, but you can feel free to try and change it.
(Edited to "an opportunist" to maintain family friendly atmosphere.)
I have little to no interest in changing your opinion one way or another. I simply said that the market is self-correcting (e.g. increased prices to meet demand and increased production by GEC). You're talking about a purely commercial transaction. Insisting there is morality built into it is just silly. We're not talking about selling meth to a 12 year old here. We're talking about grown men upset that a particular brand of knives has raised prices to meet the market.
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I disagree. I think how someone conducts themselves when they've found the situation to their advantage absolutely is a matter of ethics. If those flippers were generating money for a charity, that'd be one thing- but it's purely greed and offers nothing to the knife community. It's just a cancer. They swoop in an buy items out of the hands of people who'd appreciate them more, and then offer them back at a higher asking price.
But I digress, perhaps I'm off topic by now.
If we were talking about insulin for orphans then I'd see your point. These are knives. No one ever died because they didn't get a particular GEC or paid slightly more for it.
I hate to defend "scalpers" / "flippers" since I agree its irritating but they do serve an important market function. They allow the distributor to recoup funds and re-invest reliably and quickly, they signal to the maker (and broader market) the true clearing price thereby telling them that supply / demand are not aligned at current pricing, and they take on risk with their own capital. These are all hallmarks of a properly functioning and efficient market.
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What is the insult? That you buy/sell/trade a lot here and contribute very little elsewhere on the forum? That's just a simple fact.
To be clear, I have absolutely no problem insulting you. This just isn't the thread for it.
And here's your citation. A document from the U.S. Department of State : Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism labeling both the Israel Defense League and the Kach Movement as terrorist organizations.
https://2009-2017.state.gov/documents/organization/45313.pdf
Except you're wrong. Most people in here would be happy if GEC raised their prices to meet the market. What pisses people in here off is when some dealers set their prices at GEC's SMR, while others take advantage of the craze by setting their prices 2x - 5x higher. What pisses people here off is when GEC sells a knife for $60, a dealer sells the knife for $80, and a flipper comes and snatches it and sells it the next day for $800.
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this- I’d be out of the game- Mrs. EngrSorenson would never let me get one at substantially higher costs...
But at least I’d feel better knowing those people in PA are getting their due reward.
Contributed far more then you boy
You're a real tough guy behind a keyboard.
HAHAHA
A report from 2005. Wow, strong proof of "terrorism". Did you even read it? Here let me help you:
That's to say nothing of the simple fact that they were designated as such AFTER the group effectively disbanded. FYI this was the request of the Barak govt in order to demonstrate they were willing to police Jews.
{sniff sniff} smells like antisemite in here
Cool story. Here's you in the OP:
That's you in the OP complaining about DEALERS raising price. Now, 11 pages later you're trying to pretend its the flippers that are the problem. Let's be clear, the only reason the flipper can do this is because demand FAR outstrips supply. Otherwise, there'd be no market @ $800. Try this trade with something else like a random Endura or Griptillian and you'll find that you'll lose your money all day every day.
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You're the only one trying to talk tough here.
Is this better? From the current FBI website.
I did read it. Did you? Did you comprehend it?
A terrorist organization is a terrorist organization, regardless of if they were designated as such after they were disbanded. The nazi regime wasn't labeled as evil by most germans until after the war. Nazis are still evil.
Get it through you head. Politics don't belong here. Take that crap where it's allowed.
Didn't see that coming. /facepalm.
I'm happily Jewish and you're embarrassing youself.
Oh... I see that reading comprehension seems to be an issue with you. Got it. I won't rehash what I've already written in the thread.
Agreed. This is boring. If he wants to continue, I'm sure he knows where to go.
Now back to complaining about flippers.
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In case it was lost in translation:
The purpose of this thread is to give people a place to complain about GEC flipping/pricing so as to keep it out of the Traditional Forum where it isn't allowed and doesn't belong.
The purpose of this thread is to give people a place to complain about GEC flipping/pricing so as to keep it out of the Traditional Forum where it isn't allowed and doesn't belong.
