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Negative, He would know right away by the spine notch.
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Tired of Spyderco Lack of QC
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Negative, He would know right away by the spine notch.
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That sucks. I too am one that expects a knife to arrive in perfect condition. I don't trash my stuff, I use it but don't abuse it. If I damage or scratch my knife that is on me. I don't expect it to come to me with damage. That is unacceptable.
Don't lower your standards - change your product or retailer.
One of the reasons why I try and find reputable vendors that back their products and keep my satisfaction their focus. Good luck.
Don't lower your standards - change your product or retailer.
One of the reasons why I try and find reputable vendors that back their products and keep my satisfaction their focus. Good luck.
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Sounds to me like that Military was returned to the dealer after having been previously sold, then re-sold to you, after having been mishandled by whomever had it.
I used to have a collector # and owned more Spydies than I could count, and while a small percentage had minor cosmetic blemishes, nothing like what you are describing. These are production knives so I don't expect n-th degree perfection -- just fundamental quality. For a custom-knife level of refinement Sal would have to double the prices.
I used to have a collector # and owned more Spydies than I could count, and while a small percentage had minor cosmetic blemishes, nothing like what you are describing. These are production knives so I don't expect n-th degree perfection -- just fundamental quality. For a custom-knife level of refinement Sal would have to double the prices.
With the stripped screws in the handle I would believe something like this probably happened . . Now , if it did happen , your dealer should have returned it or not sold it as a new knife again ....
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I think you need to get your Spydercos from somewhere else. If every one you've received has stripped screws or major issues, that sounds like the dealer. All of mine have always came perfect, and not been as bad as some of yours sound. Even after heavy use.
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I've always had flawless spyderco's. Have someone else order them for you 
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I'm not going to relate all my Benchmade stories, but I've had two 710s that had actually warped blades and more badly off-center knives than I care to mention. Heck, even CRK delivers not-quite-perfect knives, and that from a much smaller shop with higher standards (and prices to match). Nothing is perfect, no manufacturer is perfect.
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First Ken C., I can't afford to buy direct from Spyderco at almost double the price (not sure on that but a ton more than dealers charge). This ain't my first rodeo - I've owned many folders Spyderco, Benchmade, Kershaw, ZT, Sebenza, Hinderer.
I'm very aware about how to properly defeat blue Lock-Tite. I was doing it on Harley's back in the late 70's and early 80's. Not to mention using the stuff in my hobby of collecting knives now as an old coot.
When you're trying to diagnose what a problem might be, and drop a torx bit in the screw and it just spins with your fingers, then you kind of know you have a stripped screw. Why check? Because those 2 screws are on either side of the locking mechanism, so I thought they should be checked.
This is a real possibility. All of my previous Spydercos came in a plastic sleeve inside the box - this last Military did not. I mentioned that in the return but no response, just the refund.
On a positive note. I am the very happy owner of an Endura 4 G-10, FFG which is an awesome folder. It's blade is alonst as long as a Military or BM 710. It has a strong lock-back, which I like and is the sharpest out of the box knife I've ever owned. Like a light sabre as they say.
Once I get this last inspected Military in hand, from the CShoppe folks, I'll be a happy camper. :thumbup:
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Whenever I hear about stripped screws, it sets off an alarm for me. I have never stripped a screw or had a stripped screw on a Spyderco.
I'm not saying you did it, but someone tinkered with the knife. It's doubtful Spyderco QC would send out a knife with a stripped screw. It amazes me when people don't know how to turn a screw or use the proper tool to prevent stripping it.
As far as centering, i would only worry about it if the blade contacts the scale.
I'm not saying you did it, but someone tinkered with the knife. It's doubtful Spyderco QC would send out a knife with a stripped screw. It amazes me when people don't know how to turn a screw or use the proper tool to prevent stripping it.
As far as centering, i would only worry about it if the blade contacts the scale.
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I once got a D4 with a stripped clip screw brand new , but that's the only time , I just gobbed on the loctite and let it dry, hasnt come loose since .
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Thank you.
I was going to say "Put your money where your mouth is. Send me your 100,000th folder for review and I'll tell the world how wonderful your Q.C. is." Now I don't have to.
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Of all the knives I've bought, none have ever been scratched up or damaged to the extent you are claiming. I am not doubting you received them that way, but I am doubting that they were sent that way to whomever you bought them from.
Look inside the box, what color is the lip? It's RED, the knife was banging around in there and there was some transfer. It's not marker, I mean come on...you really don't have to be Mattlock to figure that out.
Wow, did you send it next day air or something? USPS flat rate box is just over $5, you could also use USPS First Class for under $4. Just saying. ALso, where are you buying all these knives from ?
See there you go, they aren't all bad..
How can you be so sure that it left the factory that way? I'd be willing to bet it didn't.
I've sent back a knife that was really off center, but that has only ever been 1 time. I own around 70 Sydercos (Military/Para/Para2/GB/Sage/Delicas/Enduras). If I were you I'd seriously reconsider vendors, you are apparently getting knives that have been returned by others. There are some stores that do this kind of thing (Amazon for one).
Bad luck...
I have over 40 Spydies, and the only one issue I had was a paramilitarw with an off center blade. But I was able to adjust it by myself...
I NEED to trust a company Quality Control, since I live in Brazil, and return the knife is not an option (Shipping costs).
And Spyderco is one of the knife companies I trust most.
Regards,
Andre Tiba - Brazil
I have over 40 Spydies, and the only one issue I had was a paramilitarw with an off center blade. But I was able to adjust it by myself...
I NEED to trust a company Quality Control, since I live in Brazil, and return the knife is not an option (Shipping costs).
And Spyderco is one of the knife companies I trust most.
Regards,
Andre Tiba - Brazil
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I have to agree with RevDevil and as I said before you need to look at your dealer and not so much at Spyderco QC. Yes, some knives do get through that are bad in one way or another but Spyderco will fix it. Mr. Glesser would not be on this forum and communicate with fans of his knives if he did not truly care about the product he puts out and the people who own them.
I have the problem with off-centered blades on almost all of my Spyderco knives, too. If you ask me, Spyderco doesn't know how to center blades. I've had more than 20 Spydercos over the past few years, and I think 80% of them have had off-centered blades.
Of the 7 Spydercos I have right now, only 2 of them have centered blades.
So I kind of feel like I'm in the same boat as you: everyone around me claims that they have 6000 Spyderco knives, and not one of them has a problem, yet I have some kind of cosmetic issue with nearly every one I get.
In all, it's not a big deal to me. I'd just like to see Spyderco improve the quality of their knives.
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You posted: I'm done with them and sticking to other brands
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I have a safe full of knives and many of them are Spydercos. Generally speaking I feel that as far as batting averages go Spyderco runs at the top. I can't say all of my Spyderco purchases have been ones that brought me perfect product but honestly I've had much more quality control issues with other brands.
If nothing else at least as far as Spyderco is concerned even if I get one that is not quite perfect with a a slightly off center blade or a hint of clicking sound in the lock or a rocker arm lifting slightly when pressure is applied in a cut I am relieved that at least the blade and edge geometry are optimum for the blade steel and that it will slice and perform the way I expect it to. It is reassuring that even the less than pefect Spyderco will still perform with less perceived effort than many of my other knives I own from other companies, often times even when made using the same steel. I don't know about some of you guys but if I had to pick between a knife that may have some slight cosmetic issues but cut and performed to optimum levels or a perfect knife for everything but the primary grind and edge grinds which were technically even looking and finished but left so obtuse as to prohibit actually using it for much more than cutting tape I'll take the one with some cosmetic imperfections every day of the week.
Spyderco is a company top tier for making knives that are geared for performance and they are one of the few companies that are actually taking advantage of each steel used pushing them to the limits of what they are capable of doing. Many companies use fine steels but few can claim to touch the performance levels of even a bad or second rate Spyderco.
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If nothing else at least as far as Spyderco is concerned even if I get one that is not quite perfect with a a slightly off center blade or a hint of clicking sound in the lock or a rocker arm lifting slightly when pressure is applied in a cut I am relieved that at least the blade and edge geometry are optimum for the blade steel and that it will slice and perform the way I expect it to. It is reassuring that even the less than pefect Spyderco will still perform with less perceived effort than many of my other knives I own from other companies, often times even when made using the same steel. I don't know about some of you guys but if I had to pick between a knife that may have some slight cosmetic issues but cut and performed to optimum levels or a perfect knife for everything but the primary grind and edge grinds which were technically even looking and finished but left so obtuse as to prohibit actually using it for much more than cutting tape I'll take the one with some cosmetic imperfections every day of the week.
Spyderco is a company top tier for making knives that are geared for performance and they are one of the few companies that are actually taking advantage of each steel used pushing them to the limits of what they are capable of doing. Many companies use fine steels but few can claim to touch the performance levels of even a bad or second rate Spyderco.
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