To Ship Or Not To Ship OVERSEAS

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STEELWHORE said:
No.....surcharge, of course the shipping will be extra.
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You crack me up dude!:D Man you've really got some serious issues with not getting knives shipped to you cause you're overseas, the only thing is by personally attacking a senior member here you're not helping your case. And you just keep digging.
 
PorcupineMtns66 said:
Have to say, (before I decided no more INTL shipping) I think I shipped to one of you in Australia and it got there faster than some domestic shipments take and was faster than a Canada shipment. I was impressed by that.
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That's right, you've sold me your GrooveMaster and thanks again for it and was a good transaction also.
Cheers
 
Bravado said:
You crack me up dude!:D Man you've really got some serious issues with not getting knives shipped to you cause you're overseas, the only thing is by personally attacking a senior member here you're not helping your case. And you just keep digging.
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I have no issues with knives not getting shipped to me,and i dont need to help my case,in fact it never was my case.Like i said earlier there are plenty of people who will get them and ship them on to me if the seller wont ship international.You are the one with issues,who wont join the rest of the world,who thinks a surcharge should be put on the price to ship to foreigners because its such a hassle to fill out a bit of paper.
Senior,you may be,a member,definately.

and the head keeps getting bigger...
 
I am in Australia and receive knives from the US every month. Had one refuse me about 2 weeks ago..he dropped the price another 5 times before it sold. Sucks to be him. Anyway, I wouldnt ship to non english speaking non western countries. Don't trust their postal service at all. Anything else is fine.

Bravado - what is with you sig line mate "You aint a real hog till you shake the man's hand"? Does Jerry think this as he has inducted a heap of internationals (myself being Hogzumi and most other internationals posting to this thread included). He seems happy to sell us knives? Am I not a real hog?
 
Bravado said:
Sorry but IMO we will never join the rest of the world, we'd have to give up too many of our freedoms! (I'd rather spill blood first) Chit there was even a "Hog" on here who lived in France and claimed he was a police officer that ripped a few people off I even dealt with him a few times because he had some history but obviously got lucky.
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You're part of the world, wether you realize and like it or not.
More importantly, this has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
 
Just curious.. I see CONUS all the time, "Continental US", do American sellers experience the same issues when shipping within their own country to Hawaii and Alaska as they do when shipping internationally? or is this just an issue of it being more expensive to ship to these states?
 
Let's not overcomplicate matters here. If the goods are insured then whether domestic or foreign....a postal loss should pay out. Losing a lot of money to a postal system would not readily occur if the insurance was in place....then the issue about original value versus investment value....again if insured the USPS should pay out the insured value.....and again this should happen whether foreign or domestic shipping....evidence of true value is easily obtained where a knife's investment value has increased.

Another issue about foreign shipping is also you need to consider to whom you are shipping and where you stand in the grand scheme of supplying people in the military with a much cherished and needed "combat knife". Check all of the Bussekin Companies web sites and you will see the ability to ship to US Forces.....Allied Forces can still work as well....you simply just fill in the details as if a foreign buyer. If the "Company" line is we look after these guys....then the HOGS ought to do the same IMO.

I have shipped knives as an intermediary.....even bought them for Czech S/F guys and Slovakian S/F guys....check out who is actually deploying troops in S'tan and you will see the huge sacrifices emerging NATO Countries like this make. Whereas the old NATO European members are actually conspicious by their abscence.

Us Brits are spilling blood side by side with your guys as well....and have done in every generation of my family from my Dad in Korea to my Grandad's on both sides in WWII and WWI....and shipping a knife to someone who is putting it on the line for you ought to be a "given" on this forum at least! There are a lot of guys from abroad here I suspect who will have a military role....and ought to be looked after. Sure some like me may also be a bit of a "collector"....the damn things are addictive....but I came here wanting a primary knife and it just ended up that I got hooked. I still move a lot of knives to guys in the military here and certainly hope to be able to continue to do so.:thumbup: And from tales of my Dad needing to trade with your Korean guys whisky for a warm sleeping bag and winter coat....to my Grandfather who traded Whisky for a 100 Rnd Thompson Drum Mag....you guys need to keep up the American end of supplying good kit and we will supply the good Whisky!:D:D
 
PeterPHWS said:
check out who is actually deploying troops in S'tan and you will see the huge sacrifices emerging NATO Countries like this make. Whereas the old NATO European members are actually conspicious by their abscence.
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Hey! We Dutch have Marines and Air Mobile in-country, as well as Air pukes! We're not FRENCH! :D
 
giant1 said:
Ken

I do roll with it (not much choice really), but I have an extremely low tolerance for stupid and obsolete excuses.
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Well, how about this stupid excuse...I'm not a dealer and usually sell at or below cost... so I don't need the hastle of the paperwork(yeah, I'm lazy), and I don't like to worry about it taking so long for a knife to arrive. Hell I worry when I ship CONUS untill I here from the seller that it has arrived.
I can't help that I worry so much, just born that way I guess.

I also don't like it when people act harshly about an issue that they can't control. Comes across as whining to me.
As I first said, I have often shipped abroad if the buyer has been around here for a while...but that may have just changed considering the tone coming from one country in this thread.
 
Well if that is the case Ken...and you would like to generalise against Australians..then we will be certain to return the favour...however that would be just to you, not all Americans.
 
how about next time you see a knife and post an "ill take it "
the seller writes back " sorry dude, i ship to FOREIGNERS ONLY . NO US "
then only when they get desperate and as a last resort they bite the bullet and take a HUGE risk and ship to the US if you can prove you have good character and pay a surcharge.
 
Ken44 said:
Well, how about this stupid excuse...I'm not a dealer and usually sell at or below cost... so I don't need the hastle of the paperwork(yeah, I'm lazy), and I don't like to worry about it taking so long for a knife to arrive. Hell I worry when I ship CONUS untill I here from the seller that it has arrived.
I can't help that I worry so much, just born that way I guess.

I also don't like it when people act harshly about an issue that they can't control. Comes across as whining to me.
As I first said, I have often shipped abroad if the buyer has been around here for a while...but that may have just changed considering the tone coming from one country in this thread.
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Not whining Ken. Just calling it as I see it.

Apparently some people have a great fear of shipping overseas. That's OK because I have never missed out on any item I was after, I simply find someone who can handle a little extra leg work and they get my money instead. I agree absolutely that it is out of my control but I can still have an opinion even if it does not match with yours.

BTW, the "tone" is going both ways.
 
Irezumi said:
Well if that is the case Ken...and you would like to generalise against Australians..then we will be certain to return the favour...however that would be just to you, not all Americans.
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Just to let you know, I have not and will NEVER buy from out of US. I worry about that even more than shipping abroad. And BTW, I think theres plenty here to chose from so I'll be fine without your knives;)

If people would just let folks do as they wish without all this drama I think my views would not have changed on this issue.


giant1 said:
BTW, the "tone" is going both ways.
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The key is who STARTED the "tone"
 
philwar said:
Yeah! You *points in random direction* started it! :rolleyes:
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What:confused::confused:
I think you need to read back a bit farther, because i know for a fact I didn't start the ill whiney tone of this thread(check post #24 for that). 100% positive.
 
STEELWHORE said:
I have no issues with knives not getting shipped to me,and i dont need to help my case,in fact it never was my case.Like i said earlier there are plenty of people who will get them and ship them on to me if the seller wont ship international.You are the one with issues,who wont join the rest of the world,who thinks a surcharge should be put on the price to ship to foreigners because its such a hassle to fill out a bit of paper.
Senior,you may be,a member,definately.

and the head keeps getting bigger...
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The sure charge comment was off the cuff, I have sold many times to people overseas including your country 3 years before you showed up. It is more paperwork yeah but the main issue is with other countries postal systems and customs and the extra worry about whether it will arrive in the hand of the person I am sending it to! If you look in GBU here you will find many problems with overseas shipping from people getting ripped off from the buyer to problems with customs.
 
Irezumi said:
Bravado - what is with you sig line mate "You aint a real hog till you shake the man's hand"? Does Jerry think this as he has inducted a heap of internationals (myself being Hogzumi and most other internationals posting to this thread included). He seems happy to sell us knives? Am I not a real hog?
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Relax dude its all tongue an cheek
 
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