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Top 5 MBC for SD

It appears smaller is actually better for real SD scenerios.

Sais the man who isn't attacked by a group of samurai!!! The kerambit makes for a good show but if you're laying on the ground in two pieces it doesn't really matter how fast you can move it.
 
As for the Kerambit, do an internet search for Michael Janich (he is the designer of the yojimbo and Ronin as well as a spyderco officiando) the spyderco kerambit doesn't feel good in my hand whereas several others I have trained with do feel pretty good. Remember that many strikes with a traditional kerambit use the "back" of the blade in a slashing/smashing strike. The spyderco version is neither sharpened or designed for those types of strikes. That being said, I am not even close to being an expert on or with a kerambit. As for your other choices, I own a chinook and a manix and love them both dearly...either would make an excellent sd knife. I usually edc the manix as a tool, and it is much less menacing in appearance than the chinook. just my two cents take them for what they are worth.
 
beefangusbeef said:
Sais the man who isn't attacked by a group of samurai!!! The kerambit makes for a good show but if you're laying on the ground in two pieces it doesn't really matter how fast you can move it.
I know you are joking, and you did make my LOL, but we are talking about knives, and I do not expect to be chopped in half by a knife nor is a Manix the same as a samurai sword.

Plus, I am a ninja. The samurai can't even see me and when chopped in half I can rejoin myself using a secret ninja spell.
 
All knives can be used for SD but none will defend you. A dedicated SD knife should complement your skills, abilities, circumstances and preferences.
It doesn't matter much what others can do with their knife but what you can do with yours. You don't need a life blade for training. If you intend to train using a knife for SD I would start there. When you have a better idea what suits you best you can buy the best knife for you regardless of brand.
 
A Kerambit requires very specific training, same as the Gunting. The training I recieved from James Keating & Kelly Worden works well with any traditional folder or fixed blade. At the same time, I would be less effective with a Kerambit as it is very specialized.

My suggestion would be a Spyderco Endura or Delica. Added bonus - there are training models.
 
Well, personally I'm not big on kerambits (perticularly the spyderco). I do however feel that the chinook2 is one of the most perfect sd knives you can own. To me, a kerambit limits you. You don't want to be limited in a sd situation. With a kerambit you may find yourself fumbling to find the hole, or, if you get it to action, getting caught up on bones. A chinook is still a great slasher, plus an exellent stabbing weapon as well. You have the ability to slash, hook, and stab. The kerambit is a slasher- period. The chinook can be found for right about the same price as a spyderco kerambit too. It is a better all around knife, and a better sd tool. I would also say that a chinook could be "at the ready" faster than a spyderco kerambit.
The yojimbo would be my second choice.
 
Aside from the FB Temperance, which has been ruled out due to legality, the clear winner is the Yojimbo. The straight edge, while not "hooked" is better than a curved blade because it allows for straight stabs. The wharncliffe blade also allows for the most cutting power in the shortest blade length, which was a primary design consideration for the knife. It is the ideal knife for the intuitive "Filipino" grip that Michael Janich, the knife's designer favors.

Also, the compression lock puts up little resistance, making opening easy, yet it locks up with incredible strength. It is on par with or better than the Chinook for speed in this respect. The disadvantage of the Chinook by comparison is getting good purchase on the handle to deploy it. The Chinook is tougher overall, but more unweildy. By contrast, it was also designed for more Bowie techniques. In my experience with owning one, it just seems less intuitive to use than the Yojimbo does, and to paraphrase Mr. Janich, it is also more dangerous, as the reverse-grip techniques with which the Chinook excels are more dangerous due to the user's close proximity to the target.
 
meshmdz,Are you in the military or just in a bad section of town?I hope you realize the legal ramifications of stabbing someone.If you can't prove your life was truly in danger you could end up doing a lot of time.That's just something to think about.;)
 
For folding defense knifes your best bet of the five is Yojimbo, Chinook II or the Manix. The karambit is "acceptable" but not necessarily the best choice. Regarding the karambit there is a reason why the claw shape has been around for hundreds of millions of years and the karambit is one of many claw designs that draw from this. Claw designs are effective but limited for example the karambit’s style is slash, rip and hook/grab/hold where as the Yojimbo, Chinook and Manix are tailored more for cutting, hook slashing and piercing. Before choosing I would spend some time, studying both styles then pick a knife that best suits you.
 
I certainly can't see how Hair thinks a two inch blade is faster and more accurate than a three inch blade. We are talking about one inch and maybe fractions of an ounce of weight. An ounce or two at most. Looks like he is comparing a hammer and a maul! The only possible difference is concealability and that should not be that much of a problem.
 
meshmdz needs to reconsider going to the places where he thinks he has to have a knife for self defense, or he needs to reconsider what he does need for self defense. Sounds like he is dead set on taking a knife to a gun fight!
 
You seem a bit obsessed with a knife for Self Defense, and I don't get it.I think a knife is a very poor choice for SD. I carry a gun for SD. Yes, I DO have a permit for it, and YES, I have had training! Why not get some training with firearms, get a gun and get a CCW permit for your state? Here is the info on that: http://www.packing.org/state/tennessee/
 
TheKnifeCollector said:
You seem a bit obsessed with a knife for Self Defense, and I don't get it.I think a knife is a very poor choice for SD. I carry a gun for SD. Yes, I DO have a permit for it, and YES, I have had training! Why not get some training with firearms, get a gun and get a CCW permit for your state? Here is the info on that: http://www.packing.org/state/tennessee/



A knife is realy not a poor choice for SD it's actually a very sound one. While guns have there place knifes are far more pratical usable and versital and I can carry my knife into places that you (evan with a permit) can not carry a gun. Don't get me wrong there are times when it is more prudent to carry a gun.
 
Doesn't the original poster have a CCW as mentioned and carries a plethoria of ammo?

Maybe i caught that part in another post about this.

I would think a knife is a handy silent back up to a decent gun.
May need to stab a real close ninja and shoot the rushing in ones.
Also, i would assume it is quite messy opening a bag of chips or other witha gun.:D

WR
 
Actually if you take a plastic tie, and put it throught spider hole. and then take scissors and cut off anything that sticks past hte tie lock, after makeing sure it is as tight as can be. Then you can wave it open with a little practice, as long as it is carried tip up..
 
nolan raborn said:
I certainly can't see how Hair thinks a two inch blade is faster and more accurate than a three inch blade. We are talking about one inch and maybe fractions of an ounce of weight. An ounce or two at most. Looks like he is comparing a hammer and a maul! The only possible difference is concealability and that should not be that much of a problem.

I was wondering if anyone else was going to catch that. I also wonder why Hair repeatedly says he doesn't train and has no experience and yet comes to these conclusions so confidently (nothing personal Hair, I'm sure you're a great person, but It just doesn't seem very logical to me). The romans didn't slash and claw their way to the top. And though I don't argue that a karambit can be dangerous, I personally believe (People will disagree here and I'm not interested in a long-winded debate about this) that the karambit is more of an angle than it is effective in pure life and death combat compared to a traditional straight blade.

Lastly, I was never talking about using a knife for some sort of "one stab kill", I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that just because I have a 3" blade or larger, I should only stab once.
 
firs things first, i am not obsessed with anything. i am interested in defensice knife fighting and am in the process of learning more about this type of thing. i do have a CCW permit here in tennessee and carry a G26 for my gun of choice. however, i do want a good SD knife. sorry if i have bothered anyone in my posts. i wont bother asking anything else in regards to SD.
 
Bors said:
A knife is realy not a poor choice for SD it's actually a very sound one. While guns have there place knifes are far more pratical usable and versital and I can carry my knife into places that you (evan with a permit) can not carry a gun. Don't get me wrong there are times when it is more prudent to carry a gun.
Well, I think it is a poor choice if you have NO training. But, if you have one on you and it is used as a last ditch weapon. It is better to have one and not need one, than to need one and not have one. But, as a general rule, if you are NOT trained in self defense with a knife, it is a poor choice.
 
meshmdz said:
firs things first, i am not obsessed with anything. i am interested in defensice knife fighting and am in the process of learning more about this type of thing. i do have a CCW permit here in tennessee and carry a G26 for my gun of choice. however, i do want a good SD knife. sorry if i have bothered anyone in my posts. i wont bother asking anything else in regards to SD.
No need for hurt feelings.I was just thinking that except for all the Road Raging lunatics we have here in Md. I usually feel pretty safe.There is nothing wrong with being prepared.If you really want a nice SD knife look at Emersons karambit.With the Wave it will be open right out of your pocket.
 
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