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Bad Trade Deal with Silent Arrow

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by gatorforge, May 14, 2020.

  1. gatorforge


    Jul 2, 2010
    tldr There were shipping issues that were my fault, I apologized, and SilentArrow kept both the knife I had sent him in trade, and the one I had traded him for. He will not respond to text or DM.

    I hate doing this but I'll bring it to the community to arbitrate:

    Earlier this year I posted a Rodent Waki for trade. SilentArrow messaged me on February 17th, and we agreed on a trade, his NMFSH for my Waki. On February 22, I shipped the Waki. He said he had delays because of work, but finally shipped his of February 27th.

    His package arrived as planned. Mine did not, and after being listed as undeliverable, I checked and realized I had given him the wrong zip code. I immediately informed him and apologized. I tried calling and going to the post office that should have had it. They were closed when I tried to go. I had just started a new job so I was only able to go on my lunch breaks. I tried calling and leaving several more messages at the post office so I could coordinate picking it up, but never received a response.

    I kept SilentArrow informed and on March 9th he told me that his post office had informed him the package was in Sandston, VA and I should immediately go there to get it. As this was the middle of the day and would be a 3hr round trip, I let him know that this was not possible, I apologized profusely for the situation and, as it was on its way back to him, offered to pay whatever shipping costs there might be ahead of time. He was quite angry (somewhat understandable). I continued to apologize as it was my error, but just asked that he let me know when it got back.

    I had a lot going on, and didnt think much of it, especially with Corona for a while. I never heard from him though. On April 28th and May 1, I sent texts asking for him to please let me know if the knife had made it back to him and how we could proceed. No response. I messaged him via DM on here on May 5th. No response.

    I know things are hard with corona, and I wouldnt begrudge anyone being slow or absent minded. At this point though, he has stolen my knife. I just want him to follow through on his end of the deal, and I will still pay shipping. I have screenshots of all the conversations if I should post that to the thread.
  2. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
  3. gatorforge


    Jul 2, 2010
    Thanks @hhmoore wasn't sure how to do that on here
  4. jlauffer

    jlauffer Dissident Aggressor Platinum Member

    Apr 11, 2016
    I'm a bit confused. You say "SilentArrow kept both the knife I had sent him in trade, and the one I had traded him for", but then you also say "His package arrived as planned." Can you clarify?

    ETA: Nevermind...when you said "his package" I thought you meant the one he sent to you, not the one you sent to him.
    Last edited: May 14, 2020
  5. Hivoltage

    Hivoltage Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 19, 2018
    Everyone is going around and around with the USPS. Ya it’s a pain in the ass and mistakes happen. He should man up and accept your apology and re-ship the knife. Not a big deal and not worth getting mad enough to just say screw it and keep both.
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  6. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    If he has been returned the knife he sent you, it is not acceptable for him to keep it. I am presuming he did the shipping online. It should never have been accepted if done at the PO. I have had this happen a few times and they correct it right there. It is not all that unusual and nothing for him to get angry over, but as you offered, you should pay for the 2nd shipping.
    People screw up the zip codes, They screw up the PP address. We should be more careful, but things happen.
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  7. gatorforge


    Jul 2, 2010
    Like I said, my mistake, I’m responsible for shipping 100%. I take no issue with that at all. I’m not cool with him shorting me a $700 dollar knife, either my sword or his. I’m not looking to make a big deal which is why I tried reaching out to him so many times first. I don’t want anything out of this besides what’s mine.
  8. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
    I had a shipper transpose 2 numbers in my zip code - an error he discovered & admitted when I contacted him about the knife being in the wrong place. All the he (and your shipper) had to do was contact USPS & redirect the package.

    One thing that is not clear to me based on what you have posted is where that knife is. You've indicated no response from @SilentArrow, so he hasn't told you that he received it. Do you know if he recalled the package? Have you tried running the tracking number? (If so, what does it say?)
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  9. Monofletch

    Monofletch Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 14, 2010
    Let me say this.... USPS offers a service called PACKAGE INTERCEPT. They will stop and hold a package on the delivery end.... or return it. It is NOT free, but it’s there. Also. When you track a package on the USPS website scroll down. You have options - shipment details- tracking history- DELIVERY INSTRUCTIONS. You could have corrected the address there. Next time, GO TO YOUR POST OFFICE and let them know what’s going on.
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  10. gatorforge


    Jul 2, 2010
    @Monofletch I did go to my post office. They take a 1.5 hr lunch closing. At the time I was working 7-6 with 1hr for lunch at 12. That is why I called my branch of the post office that had the package and repeatedly left messages with the tracking number asking that it be held
  11. gatorforge


    Jul 2, 2010
    @hhmoore He sent me a picture of a piece of paper he had printed out showing it was being returned.

    I just ran it, so there could be no question and it was returned to him on March 11th. So it’s not just my word, I’ve attached the screen grab. [​IMG]
  12. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Your local post office closed for lunch? Which zip code?
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  13. Monofletch

    Monofletch Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 14, 2010
    I’m sorry. You must live in a very small town.
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  14. Monofletch

    Monofletch Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 14, 2010
    The key with any delivery issue is time! Call, email, visit your local p.o. if you have one that says delivered and you didn’t get it- undeliverable- anything. The faster you contact the post office the better chance of correcting the issue!
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  15. 3fifty7

    3fifty7 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 24, 2016

    I don’t have a dog in this fight and hope things work out for the OP.

    I live in 71322 and our post office closes for an hour lunch out of a 7 hour day.
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  16. Wharn

    Wharn Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 1, 2011
    Where is his NMFSH?
  17. JD Mandrell

    JD Mandrell Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 20, 2001
    If I'm reading the OP right, SilentArrow, got it back on March 11th, so he now has both knives.

    He needs to step up and address this, OP should pay shipping to get it back to him, since the original SNAFU was his fault, but SA has no business keeping both knives.
  18. Sharp & Fiery

    Sharp & Fiery Always Embellish Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 14, 2012
    Sorry to hear about this.

    @SilentArrow where are you? An explanation is in order, or at least your side of this.
    Last edited: May 15, 2020
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  19. Monofletch

    Monofletch Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 14, 2010
    Silent Arrow has good feedback
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  20. Sharp & Fiery

    Sharp & Fiery Always Embellish Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 14, 2012
    I noticed that too. Hoping he pops in here soon. :) Before too much speculating.
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