Trade description - not as described.

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hey Members,

First time posting here....I've been trading a few dozen transactions...most is positive, some could of been better. But a few really gets me...if when item is not as describe. Such as THE obviously NEW or used.

So I have this trade that is not yet final.....few weeks back I put my MT SF M/A for sale asking $245.00.

A member with multi-positive feedback ask if I wanted to trade with his 710 first production. His description is NEW (no box) from my personal collection. My MT is also New (no box)....I ask him to +$45 and it's a deal...so he did. We both shipped out same day....

When I receive the 710....the edge is obviously been SHARPENED! uneven edge too...I ask him to trade back, he said no.

If you were in my situation, what would you do? if trade back is not an option.
 
If the knife is not as described you have the right to have your knife returned.

Also, the other party owes you postage.





Big Mike
 
I hope it was that easy.....but you are correct. If my item happens to be not as describe, I would take it back. That being said, I will always try to make it work. I told him that I expected a NEW knife (factory edge) and +$45 was the deal for my MicroTech SF. But since the 710 has been sharpen, I have lost the value of the knife being NEW. So I ask him for $25 credit.

I think this if fair for me to ask since trading back was not an option for him.



If the knife is not as described you have the right to have your knife returned.

Also, the other party owes you postage.





Big Mike
 
He has to trade back with you.
A deal is not done until both parties are satisfied.

Tell them about this thread, and add their name if they still won't trade back.
 
If he mis-described and refused a return then Id call him out here by name and leave him a negative feedback.

Refusing to undo a deal when either party is not completely satisfied is not the BF way. Man up or go home those who try and maximize up trading/profits by mis-describing offerings. Pathetic to say the least.
 
New is new. A knife with a sharpened edge is not new it is a used knife.
I would make a thread in this section of the forum and name the guy and try get things resolved if he doesn't want to give you $25 or reverse the trade. He pays for shipping obviously since he lied.
 
Yes, he just agree to credit me back $25 to soften up the deal. I would gladly take it and call complete. I also told him that he has to be more careful in future trade. NEW is NEW, sharpened knife is used...even if he got the 710 from another member in a trade.

He said I have to wait until his next pay check to credit me $25 (tomorrow) I will wait...
 
I hope he sends you the cash and learns a lesson. New is new ,carried is carried and sharpened is used!
 
Question.....were ya going to use the knife or was it going to be part of a collection?

Doesn't matter since issue was solved easily, but curious. Thanks.
 
I trade for it for my collection......I would never trade if I knew it was used, especially black coating blade. No disrespect to anyone, if my knife is NEW, I expect same in return.

Question.....were ya going to use the knife or was it going to be part of a collection?

Doesn't matter since issue was solved easily, but curious. Thanks.
 
Question.....were ya going to use the knife or was it going to be part of a collection?

Doesn't matter since issue was solved easily, but curious. Thanks.

This is immaterial. If the item is described in the sale as "new" it should actually be "new" when it arrives to the buyer. Anything else is deceptive selling practices and can be subject to sanction by the moderation staff.
 
I can't tell from the photo you posted if the edge has been sharpened. It looks like a standard edge. You were asked to post a photo of the edge, not a photo of the trade thread. Reread post 8.
 
I can't tell from the photo you posted if the edge has been sharpened. It looks like a standard edge. You were asked to post a photo of the edge, not a photo of the trade thread. Reread post 8.

I'm not sure that the picture is really relevant in this case other than for curiosity sake. The OP mentions that the other party "immediately" admitted that it had been sharpened (see quote below) although not by him so, at least IMHO, that settles the new or used issue right there.

I did not even have to send him any picture....When I ask, he admit it immediately...but he said he did not sharpen it, he got it in a trade and the guy told him it was NEW

What I get out of this is that the other party also thought it had been sharpened, but since the guy HE got it from said it was new, he thought it was OK for him to do the same. Of course, JMO.
 
The picture is relevant, as it provides clarification. Aside from that, you know what they say about assuming things, the other person is not here to defend themselves. Opinions are fine, but photos are self evident.

I'm not sure that the picture is really relevant in this case other than for curiosity sake. The OP mentions that the other party "immediately" admitted that it had been sharpened (see quote below) although not by him so, at least IMHO, that settles the new or used issue right there.



What I get out of this is that the other party also thought it had been sharpened, but since the guy HE got it from said it was new, he thought it was OK for him to do the same. Of course, JMO.
 
The picture is relevant, as it provides clarification. Aside from that, you know what they say about assuming things, the other person is not here to defend themselves. Opinions are fine, but photos are self evident.

That is absolutely true. But, at this point, that is also a non-issue as no names have been mentioned and an agreement seems to have been reached.

Now, if it escalates to a point where you guys (mods) have to make a decision about which individual is in the right, and the other party refutes what the OP has said (a possibility) then a clear, definitive photo is certainly relevant [Edit: based on the post below, getting that picture appears to be moot anyway]. IMHO, we just haven't reached that stage yet where the OP needs to prove his assertions so, again IMHO, seeing the edge is simply a need to satiate curiosity at this point in time. Subject to change, of course, if the agreement falls through.
 
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