Traditional folders of Hungary

This one came in the mail today. It's a juhász bicska (shepherd's knife) on a cakli pattern, made by Zoltán Papp Jr. Just fantastic.

It's a very traditional Hungarian knife form that is still popular today. Shepherds would use the smaller blade to trim the hooves of sheep and the main blade for everything from cutting bacon for lunch to skinning a sheep or speying a ram (while hopefully wiping the blade in between tasks).

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Needless to say, this thing is a cross between a brick and a tank. It came very sharp, great fit and finish, no blade play whatsoever. At about 4 3/8 inches it's a bit longer than the Náder knife I have from the maker's father (Zoltán Papp Sr.) yet this one is lighter.

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All in all a great knife, I'm really happy with it.
 
This one came in the mail today. It's a juhász bicska (shepherd's knife) on a cakli pattern, made by Zoltán Papp Jr. Just fantastic.

It's a very traditional Hungarian knife form that is still popular today. Shepherds would use the smaller blade to trim the hooves of sheep and the main blade for everything from cutting bacon for lunch to skinning a sheep or speying a ram (while hopefully wiping the blade in between tasks).

tOFI3tX.jpg


AsbeNhl.jpg


sDSyxXG.jpg


7iHN6oB.jpg


Needless to say, this thing is a cross between a brick and a tank. It came very sharp, great fit and finish, no blade play whatsoever. At about 4 3/8 inches it's a bit longer than the Náder knife I have from the maker's father (Zoltán Papp Sr.) yet this one is lighter.

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All in all a great knife, I'm really happy with it.

Some beautiful blades...... Thank you for sharing them👍
All of em...👌
 
This one came in the mail today. It's a juhász bicska (shepherd's knife) on a cakli pattern, made by Zoltán Papp Jr. Just fantastic.

It's a very traditional Hungarian knife form that is still popular today. Shepherds would use the smaller blade to trim the hooves of sheep and the main blade for everything from cutting bacon for lunch to skinning a sheep or speying a ram (while hopefully wiping the blade in between tasks).

tOFI3tX.jpg


AsbeNhl.jpg


sDSyxXG.jpg


7iHN6oB.jpg


Needless to say, this thing is a cross between a brick and a tank. It came very sharp, great fit and finish, no blade play whatsoever. At about 4 3/8 inches it's a bit longer than the Náder knife I have from the maker's father (Zoltán Papp Sr.) yet this one is lighter.

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All in all a great knife, I'm really happy with it.

Interesting pattern. Looks quite substantial - I would probably want to carry it in a sheath.
 
Some beautiful blades...... Thank you for sharing them👍
All of em...👌

Thank you!

Interesting pattern. Looks quite substantial - I would probably want to carry it in a sheath.

It's quite substantial indeed, but I find it carries well in the pocket. A sheath is not a bad idea though. Originally shepherds in the Hungarian puszta would carry them in pouches made from rawhide ornamented with leather scraps and bone beads, suspended from their belts.

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Thank you!



It's quite substantial indeed, but I find it carries well in the pocket. A sheath is not a bad idea though. Originally shepherds in the Hungarian puszta would carry them in pouches made from rawhide ornamented with leather scraps and bone beads, suspended from their belts.

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These are ubiquitous, knife sheath, tobacco pouch, wallet, all in one... The leather pieces on the left one were used as a calendar. Very strong design, almost undestructible!

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These are ubiquitous, knife sheath, tobacco pouch, wallet, all in one... The leather pieces on the left one were used as a calendar. Very strong design, almost undestructible!

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Very interesting, I didn't know they used it as a calendar! I bet they must be very tough indeed.

A while ago I came across a nice video of a gentleman making them and using a juhász bicska in the process. Of course I understand all of maybe three words in the whole video, but it might be of interest in this thread ...




Nice sallonázó and bicskatok! Who's the maker of the knife?

(Btw, being a linguist by education, it is fascinating to me that as a Slovene I can understand random Hungarian words. Some of course because they are borrowings from Slavic languages, but Slovene also uses a few Hungarian words, either coloquially or because our standard language has adopted words from the dialects that are spoken next to the Hungarian border. Tok as in bicskatok means about the same in both languages.)
 
I ISKRA : Papp is the maker of the knife.
Depending of what subject you can find words borrowed from Turkish, Slavic, German (I imagine the fist time they faced some "Hozenträger"🤣) and even French (usually distorted, "réticule" becoming "ridikül"😊). Until they settled defnitively around the turn of the 1st millenium they used to make "trips" in Europe as far as French Provence.
 
I ISKRA : Papp is the maker of the knife.
Depending of what subject you can find words borrowed from Turkish, Slavic, German (I imagine the fist time they faced some "Hozenträger"🤣) and even French (usually distorted, "réticule" becoming "ridikül"😊). Until they settled defnitively around the turn of the 1st millenium they used to make "trips" in Europe as far as French Provence.

So another Papp (László?), how great. 😄

Trust me, I know. They passed through here on their "trips" to Italy haha.
 
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