Triad lock vs...

what? i saw some guys compare american lawman to the delica 4 LoL.cmon even they arent in the same class.i have the recon 1 and feels best in my hand.(better than my paramilitary2 my fav.) and i can open it without flicking my wrist.american lawman is hardest to open without a good wrist action due to its little blade and same strong spring as other models.
my issue with spyderco standart lockbacks is they develop up and down play after use.even some folks say it not effect the strenght i cant tolerate it.
i love solid,strong knives so tri-ad lock is way to go.not because its strongest ,it dont develop play after hard use.
btw i love spyderco's some models much but at strenght they are tons of fanboys of them.
 
swegeek said:
It's obvious from some of the stuff certain people are writing that they've never held a Cold Steel and are judging it at face value. If it's not too thick then the lock will fail from some pocket lint or be so hard to open it takes a vise and two hands to do it. It's beyond silly and I don't see how anyone could take it seriously. :thumbdn:
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That happens a lot with Cold Steel and Strider and some others. ;)

Lots of stories, parroting and other made up BS by people who have never even been in the same room with one of those knives let alone owned one.

They read a few forum posts and manufacture their own BS.....
 
Ankerson said:
That happens a lot with Cold Steel and Strider and some others. ;)

Lots of stories, parroting and other made up BS by people who have never even been in the same room with one of those knives let alone owned one.

They read a few forum posts and manufacture their own BS.....
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You just described my main beef with forums in general. This place has made me cynical. There is SO much misinformation spread here it's not even funny. Most of it comes from people who give their "opinion" on a knife they have never even SEEN in person. Then people who read that "opinion" go an spread it like they are shouting the wisdom of the ages from a pulpit. It makes me laugh when I see people commenting on a knife that they have never even handled. (You know this because of the sheer stupidity of what they are saying)


It is a plague on the forums. One reason I have been avoiding the general forum.
 
CrimsonTideShooter said:
You just described my main beef with forums in general. This place has made me cynical. There is SO much misinformation spread here it's not even funny. Most of it comes from people who give their "opinion" on a knife they have never even SEEN in person. Then people who read that "opinion" go an spread it like they are shouting the wisdom of the ages from a pulpit. It makes me laugh when I see people commenting on a knife that they have never even handled. (You know this because of the sheer stupidity of what they are saying)


It is a plague on the forums. One reason I have been avoiding the general forum.
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Yeah I feel it man. :thumbup:

Sometimes I just start laughing when I read some of the pure BS that is posted sometimes. :D
 
I like the Tri-Ad lock, do I like the knives they are available in? In the Demko Custom yes, but every time I have walked to the shop to buy a CS, I play with it in the shop and walk away, their designs dont appeal to me. is it the be all, end all of all locks? I dont think so, not if I go by patents that have been issued that will be able to rival/improve (going on loading capacity alone) on it once/if they are put into production and through our human nature of always trying to push the boundary.
 
Ankerson said:
Yeah I feel it man. :thumbup:

Sometimes I just start laughing when I read some of the pure BS that is posted sometimes. :D
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I think we all get amusement to some extent or it would be boring around here.

The real amusement for me is that I can say I actually own a folding knife that I've used pretty much as a fixed blade for over a year! This sapling here (hackberry) was cut down in short order using a folding knife, is just one of many this FOLDER has cleared for me in the time I've owned it! I've done this routinely since buying this sucker over a year ago and all that it required after about a year of this branch, shrub and occasional sapling clearing replacing a machete most all the time now, was a half tweak to the pivot to take the slight side to side play out of the blade and another tweak to tighten the thumb plate back down which got dislodged and loosened some when beating on the blade with a log to split other logs making kindling prepping for this winter. Ya gotta love it and respect what it represents even if you don't like the designs. And that's no BS! :D

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i am happy for all those cs triad owners who are happy with there knives. just like any other threads on axis lock and whatever lock its always beat up on the other knives time. good for you, make the claim that your $60 knife is better than the rest. woohoo. now stfu , im not liking what cs offers not because of its triad lock but in spite of it, i simply dont like there designs or there steels. you could make a haphazard comparison to old bolt action military rifles compared to modern assault rifles as far as lock strength goes, but in the end its always going to be apples and oranges just as it is in the triad vs comparisons. ive never had to hang hundreds of pounds off the end of any blade, yet this seems important to some. one shudders to think what would become of you if forced to use a slipjoint for a day. could you even manage?
 
Tri-Ad folders and slipjoints go together like peanut butter and jelly dude.

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It's not apples to oranges when comparing folders of one brand to another.

Hanging weight is just a general show of strength. Just say that you think they are ugly.
 
Some people get mad that a company they don't like makes a great product. Too bad for them, but no need to cry openly.
 
bada61265 said:
i am happy for all those cs triad owners who are happy with there knives. just like any other threads on axis lock and whatever lock its always beat up on the other knives time. good for you, make the claim that your $60 knife is better than the rest. woohoo. now stfu , im not liking what cs offers not because of its triad lock but in spite of it, i simply dont like there designs or there steels. you could make a haphazard comparison to old bolt action military rifles compared to modern assault rifles as far as lock strength goes, but in the end its always going to be apples and oranges just as it is in the triad vs comparisons. ive never had to hang hundreds of pounds off the end of any blade, yet this seems important to some. one shudders to think what would become of you if forced to use a slipjoint for a day. could you even manage?
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No one is saying any one knife is the best. Your response is cute though. 'Cold Steel sucks and you all know nothing about knives because you like something I don't. " is what I read from your response.


I know I know....forget the lock, if the steel wasn't invented last week it's obsolete and sucks. Good Lord.
 
One of the things I've also come to realize is that people who complain about "low end" steels like AUS-8 are people who can't sharpen worth a damn, so they try to buy the highest end steel they can because the factory edge is their idea of sharp and they wanna keep that edge for as long as possible. Then after cutting a few pieces of paper and thinking the blade has dulled, they flip it and come to General to ask about what knife they should get next.
 
100eyes said:
One of the things I've also come to realize is that people who complain about "low end" steels like AUS-8 are people who can't sharpen worth a damn, so they try to buy the highest end steel they can because the factory edge is their idea of sharp and they wanna keep that edge for as long as possible. Then after cutting a few pieces of paper and thinking the blade has dulled, they flip it and come to General to ask about what knife they should get next.
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The AUS8 on my Lawman and Boker Action 2 get just 'stupid' sharp.
 
Siggyhk said:
Some people get mad that a company they don't like makes a great product. Too bad for them, but no need to cry openly.
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Its human nature I think. Scientists, historians and archaeologists have been found to cling to old 'approved of' view points on more than one occasion not able to truly follow the facts where they lead them. Many things can contribute to their inability to step outside the box and view things in a different way. Religious beliefs are one such thing that gets in the way and in some ways I see almost zealot religious following behavior in some crowds of fans for knives. We won't get into name calling but when someone has a boxed in view of the world and something challenges that they either reject and cover up the findings indicating this or they try to change them to fit their paradigm of the world and how it works.

If the people viewing any knife were to simply forget the name on it and look at the knife only for what you see before you sticking with just the facts and not emotional attachment they may see the knife for what is there and what it by itself brings to the table. Look at the knives you love with the same eyes you use to scrutinize and pick apart the knives and companies you hate and it may help also. This is what I would say to people that have trouble following the facts where they lead them.
 
Siggyhk said:
Some people get mad that a company they don't like makes a great product. Too bad for them, but no need to cry openly.
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And there are a number of people on here desperate to shout down the opinions of anyone who doesn't agree with them regardless of reason, circumstance or experience. To each their own, I guess.
 
100eyes said:
One of the things I've also come to realize is that people who complain about "low end" steels like AUS-8 are people who can't sharpen worth a damn, so they try to buy the highest end steel they can because the factory edge is their idea of sharp and they wanna keep that edge for as long as possible. Then after cutting a few pieces of paper and thinking the blade has dulled, they flip it and come to General to ask about what knife they should get next.
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How could you possibly know how well anyone can sharpen a knife and it somehow correlates to the type of steel they like? It sounds to me like you are just trying to discredit anyone who doesn't like 'low end' steel.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
How could you possibly know how well anyone can sharpen a knife and it somehow correlates to the type of steel they like? It sounds to me like you are just trying to discredit anyone who doesn't like 'low end' steel.
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AUS 8 isn't a low end steel.
 
ThePharce said:
AUS 8 isn't a low end steel.
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He is paraphrasing what 100eyes said.

I don't like AUS8, not compared to 440c and that is a old steel,eveb 12c27, none of the three are close to what some call super steels today, but they are great steels at a good price point and still good steels, even if they have been around for some time.

Saying someone don't like a AUS8 because they can't sharpen is a bit of an overstatement IMO. I like thin edges and AUS8 roles to quick for my uses, still not a crappy steel, but not what I am looking for.
 
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