00ChevyScott
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If you don't want a lock to fail, buy a fixed blade.
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gooeytek, how aboout a knife that cuts well, and has a great lock too...?
Man I'm so glad I haven't tried hanging weights off the end of my knives while I've got the blade clamped in a vise, or holding it down on a brick wall and beating it with the handle of an axe.....
I'm sure glad i didn't buy a car based on how easy/hard you can destroy it with a bulldozer.
... Anyone is welcome to argue against it but they'll be missing out on some terrific innovation and interesting knives...
I don't think anyone here is disputing the strength of an Axis or Tri-ad lock, but rather the decision to buy knives solely based on whether the lock is as strong as those. Whoever does it, is missing out on some terrific and interesting knives.
The question should not be "Is it stronger...?", but "Is it strong enough?" If its able to hold the blade open without blade play, then yes.
I have fairly equal examples of knives in the Endura and the American Lawman (meaning, same basic size, price point, etc). There are things about the Endura which I like better and things about the Lawman which I like better. They are both good knives.
The Spyderco compression lock may well be the equal of the Triad. (Please understand? that I respect the Spyderco guys when I say this)
When Spyderco starts offering the compression lock on $20-40 knives like CS does with the Triad, let me know.
Why is it that we cannot talk about one line of knives on here without bashing another?
When cs starts offering triad locks on usa made knives, let me know. I can play that game too.
Most things labeled American made are actually American assembled with varying amounts of American parts - very tiny amount actually 100%
Anyway - talking about strength...
If you watch those Hogue EX-01 videos on youtube you notice it is really struggling before hitting 170lbs with a 30 degree+ bend and is already on the verge of collapse/slowly closing before the last "5 lbs." is put on going to 180lbs. If you compare that to the Lawman with Demko beating on it, standing on it, then hanging 235 with hardly any visible flex and collapse no where in the near future - it's a pretty big difference.
Most of the other brands and other lock types that Allen was testing in the EX-01 vids were collapsing at 90-120 lbs.
If you think about it in the context of Spydeco developing better locks for MBC folders - if you stab an object and the object is in motion immediately pulling away in the other direction - that could easily be a lot more pressure than hanging 200 lbs. on the end of the handle. The 160-240lbs. object going one way and your stabbing energy going the other way oppose in violent action and put a ton of pressure on the lock.
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I've had a shitty linerlock S&W Homeland Security I've banged up more than that, which lasted a helluva lot better. Wouldn't expect a skimpy soft piece of steel like the liner in the compression lock not to deform though...
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I could swear I'm spotting a Endura @ 4:02...
I'm not sure how stabbing something (point in?) will result with the object going the opposite direction? And if pulling away wouldn't that decrease force? But just because an object is 160-240 lbs and you stab it, and it moves, doesn't mean anywhere near 160-240 lbs of force is put on anything in the knife. Especially since the knife won't be held rigidly.