Trolling, trolling: Manix II CTS- XHP

I didn't even look at the original thread after replying to Vassili's "observations" about XHP and CPM steels...now I see it sparked a huge debate. I have to say, it brings the LOLs, something about vassili's posts spark a morbid curiosity that make me want to read more. Maybe it's because I'm in college as a Psychology major. But it's interesting that he talks about how most "So called experts" (when he is the only one claiming to be an expert) are living in a "fantasy" and he is the only one with real facts...when the fact is, he is perfectly describing his own situation. It's like he'll do any in his power to reject anything that conflicts with his view and grasp at any tiny detail that he might see as supporting it. Very interesting.

I took a detailed look at his "testing", and saw several major flaws in the methodology. For example, he says it's repeatable, but the only one where he published the repeated result was when he got an unexpectedly low rank for a specimen of ZDP, and in the second testing, it went all the way from no. 21 to no. 9..seems like quite a big difference, and clearly demonstrates in itself that the results are not consistent and are strongly influenced by his own bias toward what he believe will happen. Plus, he says he does not consider the grind, edge shape, etc, because all that matters in his test is the very edge, yet he also says that hollow grinds take less pressure in his test (contradictory much?).

Sorry, I don't want to beat a dead horse, I just noticed where the thread had gone yesterday after not checking since my comment, and it really captured my interest. I wanted to look into his testing specifically to find possible methodological fallacies that could effect his "conclusions"
 
Steel is a constant learning process as is the testing of steels so once some thinks they have learned it all they are really fooling themselves.

There are so many variables that need to be taken into count and even variations in the steel itself in different batches and even in the same batch.

Add to that the differences in HT and tempering, edge profiles and finish, blade grind, blade geometry, thickness, and knife design.

The only real answer goes kinda like this:

Well yes if...But then that could change given..... Maybe if..... Sometimes it could be but......
 
mentaculus said:
...But it's interesting that he talks about how most "So called experts" (when he is the only one claiming to be an expert) are living in a "fantasy" and he is the only one with real facts...when the fact is, he is perfectly describing his own situation....
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Where was I claiming being only one expert? I am not skilled in psychology, but Applied Mathematics which include logic and see some
basic flaw here. If I sad that there are quite a few "experts" here who far from reality, it does not equal at all to claim you imagine was done.
I only sad that so far only test I am doing are available, everything else is not disclosed. You will not count Mastiff changing carpet in
his room trying out three different knives as credible edge retention tests or cutting show Ankerson doing?

This is again kind of fluctuation in your reflection of reality similar to other - like some believes that I sad that "CTS-XHP best steel ever" or something like that
when I only sad that it show best result among tested production American steels.
 
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