Thank you to all who have shared your advice and knowledge. I greatly appreciate your time. As it sits it appears that a BUSSE is the way to go, more research will need to be done though. Quite freaking expensive, but as the back up to my kit, there is no rush. I am still open to all advice and knowledge. Thanks to you all for taking the time out of your day to help.
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Before any flaming, please read and give me a chance. Excuse the length, but I am serious.
SHORTER VERSION SO YOU ACTUALLY READ, AS HALF THE REPLYS ARE MAKING STATEMENTS I ALL READY COVERED.
TO ALL PLEASE READ THIS EDIT!!
Its was not magically teleported, but more so leaving civilization and living in the woods. The potential to lose you equipment is very real. I no there is no end all meets all master knife (as said in post). Just trying to see how far we have come and how close humanities best knife is. Also the best knife isnt necessarily the best performing one. A knife that wont perform as good, but will last is better in a true survival situation then a knife that performs 10x better but wont last without the proper maintenance that may be un-providable in the woods without store bought materials. I have my survival kit. I can survive until rescue, an exit is found, or my set time frame is up. This is survival on an entirely different level. This is my back up to my survival kit. My life line. Mostly just playing the roll of a fire at night. Warmth and security. In a survival situation the odds of losing all my gear is low. But knowing that no matter what, I have this knife helps keep my mind at ease. God forbid I ever am actually left with nothing else. Its more an extension of my self. Something no knife has fully filled. And I have alot. Kind of like when I finally got my manual car and it filled the gap my auto left empty. I just want this final piece to my kit. The final tool. My life line. My last resort. My last chance. Hope and possibility to survive. This is AFTER I made a full survival kit. I have all the tools. I probably have everything you have and then some. This knife is a LAST RESORT. LAST DITCH EFFORT. LAST CHANCE. If left with only this that means for some reason my gear is gone.
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LONGER:
For starters, I have a survival kit. Not going to list everything, but everything from axes to food/medical, reflectors and everything in between. I can grab it in in pinch and im good. I also have some knives for multiple jobs. I want to quickly clarify what i define as a survival knife. A knife used for camping, hunting, bush wacking, and surviving for a week ARE NOT SURVIVAL KNIVES. A true survival knife must be able to last FOREVER in the woods without human civilization. A knife that can be relied on for the long term survival as that is survival in its truest sense.
I have knives and my kit for survive until rescued/exit is found or designated time frame. I now want my true survival buddy. When in a survival situation you never know what will happen. In extreme cases, you may be left with nothing but your one knife. You may return to camp to find it swept away in a mud/rock slide, raided by bears OR humans. I have whats needed to survive a "normal" situation. I now want the ultimate back up. 1 single knife that stays on my belt. 1 knife that can be maintained in the woods. Sharpened, stropped, cleaned etc...
Any survival technique can be used (like grinding rock mixing with mud and adding to bases to create "sandy like grind paper") to name but one. But a sharpening stone, even dmt will eventually run out. I no alot of you are saying why do you even need this? Well like I said, I have a keep me alive survival kit. I just want to know that if/when shit hits the fan, I can survive long term. I would obviously bring my kit which has the potential to last. But like stated before, in an extreme situation of unpredictability I want a knife on my side that will last and keep me alive without the need of any other tools (not made by the knife, or natural materials found in the survival situation) for the long term. This means it cannot rust, and must be able to have the blade not only maintained, but actually sharpened without a store bought stone.
Carbon steel needs oil to prevent rust. Fish oil cannot be used due to the risk of attracting predators right to your smelly stinky fish knife. My understanding is that plants cannot be used to properly oil either. They can in the short term, but in the long term they will fall to rust. (correct me if im wrong).
This means it must be stainless. Preferably a super steel like vg10. Able to last and low prone to rust. But how to sharpen? My custom knife sheath can have a folding DMT 2x sided secured in its pouch. Sure this may help for 6 months to a year. Maybe more if real gentle. My tac belt can hold more so. But what happens after its run out? Or if my belt was with my gear as my camp was swept away in a mudslide, maybe while i was sleeping and i barley got out alive. I only have my knife cause i sleep with it holstered. Can a laminated vg10 steel (like that of the fallkniven a1/a2) be "sharpened" in the woods? I no it can be stropped etc... But can it be actually "sharpened"
Now I know theres no 1 perfect do everything knife. Im aware, hence my collection. But there are knifes that can do ALOT. Also keep in mind the ability to make a tool with a tool. Maybe smash some rocks together to make a sharp edge. Use your pommel to fine tune it. Use that to skin. Im just throwing random ideas out there to show you what i mean. The knife it self dosnt necessarily have to do all jobs. But be able to do almost all, and make tools to pick up the slack. Im aware that there is a different knife for different jobs, and not a single do all end all master knife.
That being said however, 1 has to be closer then the rest. Theres got to be a true knife out there that can last and handle most all jobs. Ive really found a liking to the fallkniven a1/a2. They are simple yet effective. However before spending that kind of money on a single knife I need to know a bit more about it. Ive seen its destruction test, ive seen all of its reviews/specs. So my two questions are:
1. Can the laminated vg10 steel of the a1/a2 fallknivens be not just stropped etc..., but actually sharpened in the woods without a store bought stone. (there are ways to make grinding stones etc... in the woods.)
2. Of all the knives in the world, which would you choose? Why?
- Remember it must last a lifetime
- its cant require any store bought maintenance. (everything must be acquired in the bush)
- you can only have the 1 knife
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Before any flaming, please read and give me a chance. Excuse the length, but I am serious.
SHORTER VERSION SO YOU ACTUALLY READ, AS HALF THE REPLYS ARE MAKING STATEMENTS I ALL READY COVERED.
TO ALL PLEASE READ THIS EDIT!!
Its was not magically teleported, but more so leaving civilization and living in the woods. The potential to lose you equipment is very real. I no there is no end all meets all master knife (as said in post). Just trying to see how far we have come and how close humanities best knife is. Also the best knife isnt necessarily the best performing one. A knife that wont perform as good, but will last is better in a true survival situation then a knife that performs 10x better but wont last without the proper maintenance that may be un-providable in the woods without store bought materials. I have my survival kit. I can survive until rescue, an exit is found, or my set time frame is up. This is survival on an entirely different level. This is my back up to my survival kit. My life line. Mostly just playing the roll of a fire at night. Warmth and security. In a survival situation the odds of losing all my gear is low. But knowing that no matter what, I have this knife helps keep my mind at ease. God forbid I ever am actually left with nothing else. Its more an extension of my self. Something no knife has fully filled. And I have alot. Kind of like when I finally got my manual car and it filled the gap my auto left empty. I just want this final piece to my kit. The final tool. My life line. My last resort. My last chance. Hope and possibility to survive. This is AFTER I made a full survival kit. I have all the tools. I probably have everything you have and then some. This knife is a LAST RESORT. LAST DITCH EFFORT. LAST CHANCE. If left with only this that means for some reason my gear is gone.
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LONGER:
For starters, I have a survival kit. Not going to list everything, but everything from axes to food/medical, reflectors and everything in between. I can grab it in in pinch and im good. I also have some knives for multiple jobs. I want to quickly clarify what i define as a survival knife. A knife used for camping, hunting, bush wacking, and surviving for a week ARE NOT SURVIVAL KNIVES. A true survival knife must be able to last FOREVER in the woods without human civilization. A knife that can be relied on for the long term survival as that is survival in its truest sense.
I have knives and my kit for survive until rescued/exit is found or designated time frame. I now want my true survival buddy. When in a survival situation you never know what will happen. In extreme cases, you may be left with nothing but your one knife. You may return to camp to find it swept away in a mud/rock slide, raided by bears OR humans. I have whats needed to survive a "normal" situation. I now want the ultimate back up. 1 single knife that stays on my belt. 1 knife that can be maintained in the woods. Sharpened, stropped, cleaned etc...
Any survival technique can be used (like grinding rock mixing with mud and adding to bases to create "sandy like grind paper") to name but one. But a sharpening stone, even dmt will eventually run out. I no alot of you are saying why do you even need this? Well like I said, I have a keep me alive survival kit. I just want to know that if/when shit hits the fan, I can survive long term. I would obviously bring my kit which has the potential to last. But like stated before, in an extreme situation of unpredictability I want a knife on my side that will last and keep me alive without the need of any other tools (not made by the knife, or natural materials found in the survival situation) for the long term. This means it cannot rust, and must be able to have the blade not only maintained, but actually sharpened without a store bought stone.
Carbon steel needs oil to prevent rust. Fish oil cannot be used due to the risk of attracting predators right to your smelly stinky fish knife. My understanding is that plants cannot be used to properly oil either. They can in the short term, but in the long term they will fall to rust. (correct me if im wrong).
This means it must be stainless. Preferably a super steel like vg10. Able to last and low prone to rust. But how to sharpen? My custom knife sheath can have a folding DMT 2x sided secured in its pouch. Sure this may help for 6 months to a year. Maybe more if real gentle. My tac belt can hold more so. But what happens after its run out? Or if my belt was with my gear as my camp was swept away in a mudslide, maybe while i was sleeping and i barley got out alive. I only have my knife cause i sleep with it holstered. Can a laminated vg10 steel (like that of the fallkniven a1/a2) be "sharpened" in the woods? I no it can be stropped etc... But can it be actually "sharpened"
Now I know theres no 1 perfect do everything knife. Im aware, hence my collection. But there are knifes that can do ALOT. Also keep in mind the ability to make a tool with a tool. Maybe smash some rocks together to make a sharp edge. Use your pommel to fine tune it. Use that to skin. Im just throwing random ideas out there to show you what i mean. The knife it self dosnt necessarily have to do all jobs. But be able to do almost all, and make tools to pick up the slack. Im aware that there is a different knife for different jobs, and not a single do all end all master knife.
That being said however, 1 has to be closer then the rest. Theres got to be a true knife out there that can last and handle most all jobs. Ive really found a liking to the fallkniven a1/a2. They are simple yet effective. However before spending that kind of money on a single knife I need to know a bit more about it. Ive seen its destruction test, ive seen all of its reviews/specs. So my two questions are:
1. Can the laminated vg10 steel of the a1/a2 fallknivens be not just stropped etc..., but actually sharpened in the woods without a store bought stone. (there are ways to make grinding stones etc... in the woods.)
2. Of all the knives in the world, which would you choose? Why?
- Remember it must last a lifetime
- its cant require any store bought maintenance. (everything must be acquired in the bush)
- you can only have the 1 knife
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