Tweenahs - New Pictures, specs...

[Nsvens89]

Sigh, again-I'm not debating value of the line, the performance of kabar's manufacturing materials, what have you. I'm not insulting anyone, I'm not badgering whoever or saying their effort wasn't worth while. No personal insults of any kind were insinuated. I was just making constructive discussion about my experiences with knives I've used and bringing up things I see as potential issues with the designs-that's all. why didn't we get a nice flat clip point model like a mini-BK7? Now one of those would rock...

That would be a pretty sweet knife. I could see someone modding one of the 16's to look like that. Something I would like to see done!

 

[Skystorm]

Slightly larger but chops far better, actually it's amazing. I wish I had one years ago.

Shit really? When I imagined it I pictured it slightly larger than the 9 and that it would probably out chop it. Any of you have a 9 and machax and can say what is better. I know from some other posts that the 9 out chops the brute but cant recall where it stands against the machax.

I was thinking that a 16 piggy backed on a machax would be an ideal setup but if a nine out chops it i might have to rethink that.

 

[Bladite]

The blade is saber ground, which is about the least efficient grind for a designated slicer.

the specs say flat ground.

where did you hear about saber?

 

[Bladite]

overall length of the new machax will be 14-11/16 inches with a blade length of 9-3/8 inches

flat ground, of course, like all of them, except one

 

[1066vik]

Bladite - do not feed the trull.

CCMI, I was commenting on the swedge on the mini-5 and the awkward drop point on the drop point model. As far as slicing goes, with a Mora the media is passing through one single bevel-the edge. With the mini-5, media has to change contours 3-4 times as it passes over the blade. Now if that blade were a scandi grind or a full flat with a very fine edge, I can see sacrificing general utility for slicing performance-but to me, it seems kind of nonsense taking a blade contoured as a wilderness beater and subtracting a whole lot of general utility efficiency by grinding away the spine for ease of slicing. Just my opinion. Again, Becker has no bigger fan than I-between its ergonomic handles, fantastic steel, mostly-utilitarian design and incredible price point, I'm a big advocate. I just don't see how all these other blades are so simple, so practically designed, and then you go and throw a completely unnecessary bevel on a completely practical knife to make it better at something it wasn't even designed for. I'm sure the knife will cut, and I'm sure it'll be worth the money... I'd just much rather have it without the swedge on the spine.

After all, silly me - I thought the knife was designed to be a dedicated slicer that was GOE built to be able to function as an all around camp knife. (Especially since that's pretty much what Mr's Becker & Fisk said at the gathering)

 

[Moosez45]

Sigh, again-I'm not debating value of the line, the performance of kabar's manufacturing materials, what have you. I'm not insulting anyone, I'm not badgering whoever or saying their effort wasn't worth while. No personal insults of any kind were insinuated. I was just making constructive discussion about my experiences with knives I've used and bringing up things I see as potential issues with the designs-that's all. why didn't we get a nice flat clip point model like a mini-BK7? Now one of those would rock...

Sigh, again, don't be too sensitive, no one's attacking you, merely offering our opinion same as you.

I think that a large BK7 style blade would be a badass knife, and I hope, the tweener series isn't done or closed. The Ol' Man's still alive and kickin' pretty hard, and he's been a designing machine lately, not just with knives. A tweener BK7 would be a great knife, no doubt. Wonder what a Tweener BK10 would be like?

Moose

 

[Bladite]

Bladite - do not feed the trull.
After all, silly me - I thought the knife was designed to be a dedicated slicer that was GOE built to be able to function as an all around camp knife. (Especially since that's pretty much what Mr's Becker & Fisk said at the gathering)

nope, no feeding, just correcting flawed information. the next thing we know people are going to want to know where the sabre grind went, and what good thinking it was to go back to flat grind or something. it's always been flat with the KaBars. period.

and people, let's keep it on track we don't need wiseasses confusing the issue, that just makes more work for the mods, and we will not loo kindly upon it

the regular BK5 is the slickest slicer thing i've seen in ages. "fisk" it, and there's pretty much nothing from the edge to the swedge to get in the way of cutting/slicing. they can pop INCHES of rope in one go, even by novices.

if you have cut a steak with the mini-BK5, or even handled one in person, you have NO IDEA just what a slice monster that thing is or even a good opinion ;D even with a factory edge, it just GLIDES through stuff. yes, it's not a scandi edge. it's tougher than that convex it, and you have a monster.

nuff said?

 

[Moosez45]

Lets keep it cordial, fellas.

Everyone, EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion here.

Play nice, kiddies.

Moose

 

[Bladite]

Lets keep it cordial, fellas.
Everyone, EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion here.
Play nice, kiddies.
Moose

absolutely entitled to your opinion, unless it breaks forum rules.

however, do keep the facts factual. make stuff up, and get called on it

 

[Wolf_1989]

Having used a BK-5 extensively for over a decade, the only shortcoming I've found with it has been addressed by the soon-coming addition of the BK-15 to pair with it. Long and short versions of the same knife together: perfection.


And Wolfy doesn't baton. I've never needed to, and I've been running around in the backwoods for a long time. Splitting firewood is a job for axes.

 

[Moosez45]

absolutely entitled to your opinion, unless it breaks forum rules.

however, do keep the facts factual. make stuff up, and get called on it

Couldn't agree more.

Having used a BK-5 extensively for over a decade, the only shortcoming I've found with it has been addressed by the soon-coming addition of the BK-15 to pair with it. Long and short versions of the same knife together: perfection.


And Wolfy doesn't baton. I've never needed to, and I've been running around in the backwoods for a long time. Splitting firewood is a job for axes.

Well said, Wolfy.

Moose

 

[Nsvens89]

Slightly larger but chops far better, actually it's amazing. I wish I had one years ago.

Thank you skystorm I know it's not tweener related but it is very good news to me. I'm hoping the new ones are as good of choppers as yours is. I have been lusting after one for a while now. I sure am excited for some tweener machax time this spring. I plan on being in the woods quite a bit I am also very excited to see how they look with the new coating.

 

[whereismyclock]

Thank you skystorm I know it's not tweener related but it is very good news to me. I'm hoping the new ones are as good of choppers as yours is. I have been lusting after one for a while now. I sure am excited for some tweener machax time this spring. I plan on being in the woods quite a bit I am also very excited to see how they look with the new coating.

I too had this image of a machax being a 15 inch chopping machine. But the size is perfect.

The new ones should be great. Bladite seems excited and you can hold him as an authority on all things machax. HONOR THE MODS!

 

[NixKustoms]

Having spent time with Jerry and getting to Q&A him quite a bit about the design (and many other things), it makes perfect sense to me. I think I got his explanation on the interview vid that he and Ethan done.

I agree that each person has their own opinions and observations on what will or won't work for them, that's why Ethan spent so much time working on the 3 tweeners, to give everyone some options.

And like every BKT knife, you can use it like it came, or you can mod it to your desires.

I'm looking forward to the drop point most of all, and having used one for a grand total of about a week or longer, I have to say, I am very pleased in how well all of these knives work. But that drop point is coming back with me from Vegas, mark my words.

Moose

So they're gonna be available there?? :wo0t:

 

[Murphnuge]

Man, now I gotta subscribe. BK10 tweeners, make it so Moose!

 

[Moosez45]

So they're gonna be available there?? :wo0t:

For me, they will be. Come hook or crook, I'm gettin' mines.

Moose

 

[NixKustoms]

For me, they will be. Come hook or crook, I'm gettin' mines.

Moose

DAMNIT!!!!!

I'm sending a guy there to get me one. I told him any means nessary; any......

 

[Guyon]

CCMI, I was commenting on the swedge on the mini-5 and the awkward drop point on the drop point model. As far as slicing goes, with a Mora the media is passing through one single bevel-the edge. With the mini-5, media has to change contours 3-4 times as it passes over the blade. Now if that blade were a scandi grind or a full flat with a very fine edge, I can see sacrificing general utility for slicing performance-but to me, it seems kind of nonsense taking a blade contoured as a wilderness beater and subtracting a whole lot of general utility efficiency by grinding away the spine for ease of slicing. Just my opinion. Again, Becker has no bigger fan than I-between its ergonomic handles, fantastic steel, mostly-utilitarian design and incredible price point, I'm a big advocate. I just don't see how all these other blades are so simple, so practically designed, and then you go and throw a completely unnecessary bevel on a completely practical knife to make it better at something it wasn't even designed for. I'm sure the knife will cut, and I'm sure it'll be worth the money... I'd just much rather have it without the swedge on the spine.

Jerry talked about flow of material around the blade.
Decreases friction and makes the knife a better slicer. Such was its design.
I'm not sure it was ever "contoured as a wilderness beater." That would be the 7 or the 9.
Jerry also talked about shaving babies. Point? Don't mess with Jerry Fisk.

 

[Moosez45]

DAMNIT!!!!!

I'm sending a guy there to get me one. I told him any means nessary; any......

Tell him he needs to be a fast draw.

Moose

 

[daizee]

Hurryupalready.
I want me a stripped mini-5 for the kitchen.

-Daizee