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Tweenahs - New Pictures, specs...

momouppa said:
TWEENAHS!!!!! YES YES YES

will the zytel handles be solid on the bk 2??
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uhm, what?

as far as i know, they're not changing the BK2, they might eventually, but hey, they never tell me anything
 
Yeah I think this has enough libido to stay up until the release. I know I will do my part. I was just watching the youtube video of Ethan talking about the machax and the tweener............It will be nice once they are out. Speaking of that video Ethan makes that machax look small he must be a big man (large in stature im not calling him fat ;-) ) because he makes the machax look small, or at least smaller than I was expecting.
 
All look super functional but the contour of the spine on that drop point tweener is just fugly. That guy needs some filework. I'll add the clip point to the collection for sure. Still up in the air about the ground spine on the BK5 and its little partner.
 
TwinStick said:
IMHO, it is small.
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Shit really? When I imagined it I pictured it slightly larger than the 9 and that it would probably out chop it. Any of you have a 9 and machax and can say what is better. I know from some other posts that the 9 out chops the brute but cant recall where it stands against the machax.

I was thinking that a 16 piggy backed on a machax would be an ideal setup but if a nine out chops it i might have to rethink that.
 
PayetteRucker said:
All look super functional but the contour of the spine on that drop point tweener is just fugly. That guy needs some filework. I'll add the clip point to the collection for sure. Still up in the air about the ground spine on the BK5 and its little partner.
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Well, in defense of the spine contour of the drop point- that is just Ethan's interpretation of a loveless drop point. It's pretty much the same as the one he put on the Companion and BK11 and BK14 blades. At least he is consistent.

I do agree with you on the Clip point Tweener. It is the best mid sized Clip point knife design I have seen for a long time. It will sell very well.

As to the BK5 blade spine it has the swedge cut into it to reduce drag along the side of the blade in trough cuts. Think of it as a boattail on the end of a bullet. It's very well though out. Mr Fisk did his job well.
 
the machax is better at everything :)

the 9 is a one hit wonder ;)
 
That swedge makes sense for a media slicer, but as a do-it-all companion? The blade is saber ground, which is about the least efficient grind for a designated slicer. It has to compete with a 10 dollar MORA for edge retention and slicing efficiency to even make that spine worthwhile, IMO. I'm a huge Becker fan, but I just don't see the point on a blade this size, no1, and the apparent contrast in design purposes between different features of that blade. The drop point is functional, there's no doubt, but if it were more gradual throughout the spine, it would allow for much more accurate and solid batoning, and probably give you a nicer point to do tipwork with.
 
PayetteRucker said:
That swedge makes sense for a media slicer, but as a do-it-all companion? The blade is saber ground, which is about the least efficient grind for a designated slicer. It has to compete with a 10 dollar MORA for edge retention and slicing efficiency to even make that spine worthwhile, IMO. I'm a huge Becker fan, but I just don't see the point on a blade this size, no1, and the apparent contrast in design purposes between different features of that blade. The drop point is functional, there's no doubt, but if it were more gradual throughout the spine, it would allow for much more accurate and solid batoning, and probably give you a nicer point to do tipwork with.
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I agree, the tip on the BK-16 looks just like the BK-2, which does not have a very acute tip.

I used a file on my BK-2, put a finer tip on it, improved bushcraft stuff like drilling by a lot.
 
PayetteRucker said:
That swedge makes sense for a media slicer, but as a do-it-all companion? The blade is saber ground, which is about the least efficient grind for a designated slicer. It has to compete with a 10 dollar MORA for edge retention and slicing efficiency to even make that spine worthwhile, IMO. I'm a huge Becker fan, but I just don't see the point on a blade this size, no1, and the apparent contrast in design purposes between different features of that blade. The drop point is functional, there's no doubt, but if it were more gradual throughout the spine, it would allow for much more accurate and solid batoning, and probably give you a nicer point to do tipwork with.
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Are you talking about the drop-point (BK16) or clip-point (BK17)?
 
I know I’m not speaking for everyone but I personally can’t imagine grabbing a mora over one of the tweeners. I can’t think of a situation where one of the tweeners edge geometry wouldn’t be sufficient once it was shown a little love. Thus if I’m looking to throw a blade in my pack and a mora and a tweener are sitting in front of me, I would grab a tweener every time. I would not be hesitant to use one for battoning or heavier tasks. Using a mora with those is possible but I wouldn’t be confident It would not brake if it hit a knot. As far as the swedge on the spine I would imagine that that would still be thicker than a mora so I wouldn’t think it would be a problem to batton with.
 
CCMI, I was commenting on the swedge on the mini-5 and the awkward drop point on the drop point model. As far as slicing goes, with a Mora the media is passing through one single bevel-the edge. With the mini-5, media has to change contours 3-4 times as it passes over the blade. Now if that blade were a scandi grind or a full flat with a very fine edge, I can see sacrificing general utility for slicing performance-but to me, it seems kind of nonsense taking a blade contoured as a wilderness beater and subtracting a whole lot of general utility efficiency by grinding away the spine for ease of slicing. Just my opinion. Again, Becker has no bigger fan than I-between its ergonomic handles, fantastic steel, mostly-utilitarian design and incredible price point, I'm a big advocate. I just don't see how all these other blades are so simple, so practically designed, and then you go and throw a completely unnecessary bevel on a completely practical knife to make it better at something it wasn't even designed for. I'm sure the knife will cut, and I'm sure it'll be worth the money... I'd just much rather have it without the swedge on the spine.
 
PayetteRucker said:
CCMI, I was commenting on the swedge on the mini-5 and the awkward drop point on the drop point model. As far as slicing goes, with a Mora the media is passing through one single bevel-the edge. With the mini-5, media has to change contours 3-4 times as it passes over the blade. Now if that blade were a scandi grind or a full flat with a very fine edge, I can see sacrificing general utility for slicing performance-but to me, it seems kind of nonsense taking a blade contoured as a wilderness beater and subtracting a whole lot of general utility efficiency by grinding away the spine for ease of slicing. Just my opinion. Again, Becker has no bigger fan than I-between its ergonomic handles, fantastic steel, mostly-utilitarian design and incredible price point, I'm a big advocate. I just don't see how all these other blades are so simple, so practically designed, and then you go and throw a completely unnecessary bevel on a completely practical knife to make it better at something it wasn't even designed for. I'm sure the knife will cut, and I'm sure it'll be worth the money... I'd just much rather have it without the swedge on the spine.
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Having spent time with Jerry and getting to Q&A him quite a bit about the design (and many other things), it makes perfect sense to me. I think I got his explanation on the interview vid that he and Ethan done.

I agree that each person has their own opinions and observations on what will or won't work for them, that's why Ethan spent so much time working on the 3 tweeners, to give everyone some options.

And like every BKT knife, you can use it like it came, or you can mod it to your desires.

I'm looking forward to the drop point most of all, and having used one for a grand total of about a week or longer, I have to say, I am very pleased in how well all of these knives work. But that drop point is coming back with me from Vegas, mark my words.

Moose
 
Sigh, again-I'm not debating value of the line, the performance of kabar's manufacturing materials, what have you. I'm not insulting anyone, I'm not badgering whoever or saying their effort wasn't worth while. No personal insults of any kind were insinuated. I was just making constructive discussion about my experiences with knives I've used and bringing up things I see as potential issues with the designs-that's all. why didn't we get a nice flat clip point model like a mini-BK7? Now one of those would rock...
 
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