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I have seen thousands of UFO photos over the years, but the one thing I have always dreamed of seeing, were photos of US by visitors. Imagine, HD video and photographs of the Battle of Hastings....It is not only possible, it's very likely.

If you want to know what something like that might be like, have a look at this:

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This is a photo of an uncontacted stone-age tribe in the Amazon. (The ufo was a helicopter)
 
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All the evidence points to systematic study. Advanced technologies surely include the ability to record a visual image.
 
I would like to know the origin of the chopping blade held by the child in the middle.
 
They believe that this tribe traded with other tribes for the pan and machete, but have had no direct contact with the "papa debes" (termite people) meaning us.
 
It's interesting to note that we have adopted similar "hands off" policies with un-contacted tribes.
 
After looking into it I have a hard time thinking about anyone or anything even getting close to figuring out a way to fold space and time.
Which is pretty much the only way you could travel such vast distances.
Billions of miles is just a drop in an ocean compared to the distances involved.

Do I want to believe? Sure.
Do I actually believe that there is a race that has developed within the same extremely short time frame that ours has? Hardly.
Written word has only been around for 10,000 years. That is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the lifespan of a star. And a totally worthless amount of time within a galaxy.

For another race to develop before ours, master space travel, and find us, all within the small window of say 10,000 years... pretty small chance.

If I had those type of odds I would be winning the lottery more often.
Does weird stuff happen, oh yeah.
Do I think we are being visited. Sorry, but no.
 
Absolutely everyone is entitled to their opinions. Me, I have never seen one, so I tend to listen to people whose credibility is unimpeachable. When the head research scientist at NASA's Langley center says "yes" to the visitor question, I believe him.
 
I like the fact that they all have that " what the he&% is that? " look and that they are all armed.
If there are ETs, and they did land and talk to me, I'm not sure if my response would be entirely peaceful ---- too many movies in which their intent is hostile has jaded me.
I'd like to think that I'd be friendly but I'm just not sure.
 
After looking into it I have a hard time thinking about anyone or anything even getting close to figuring out a way to fold space and time.
Which is pretty much the only way you could travel such vast distances.
Billions of miles is just a drop in an ocean compared to the distances involved.

Do I want to believe? Sure.
Do I actually believe that there is a race that has developed within the same extremely short time frame that ours has? Hardly.
Written word has only been around for 10,000 years. That is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the lifespan of a star. And a totally worthless amount of time within a galaxy.

For another race to develop before ours, master space travel, and find us, all within the small window of say 10,000 years... pretty small chance.

If I had those type of odds I would be winning the lottery more often.
Does weird stuff happen, oh yeah.
Do I think we are being visited. Sorry, but no.

I think UFO's are very much earth based terrestrial technologies. It stands to reason that we all suffer a mass amnesia of sorts to varying degrees. All cultures seem to have some myths involving floods or great cataclysms in mankind's past. Assuming that human nature has not changed much since so called 'primitive' man to today we can come to certain conclusions that are probably pretty close to accurate of what actually took place way back in time.

The writings from India speak of Viamana craft and other such aerial crafts as well as fighting going on in the skies. Whatever the case, should we decide to ask ourselves the what if question of whether these tales are myth or based on fact we can look at where we are today and know that man can indeed create craft to fly. I mean after all we do it everyday, therefore the fact that we do it now makes it possible, plausible even that man may have done it in the past as well. Differences could be how they operated, the fuels they used and so on but the basic facts remain the same. That being that ancient writings seem to point to a time in the past when man was more advanced than what we learned in school.

Back to my point: If man is basically the same today as he was then, we can assume that given the same set of circumstances that our leaders today would behave much the same way as leaders in times past, at least regarding in how they rule. Let us assume that our leaders, we'll call them the powers that be (TPTB for short) discovered through various means that a giant cataclysm was imminent and that there was absolutely nothing they could do to prevent it. Let us assume that they would then adopt a 'save what you can policy' that was implemented immediately and that this was being done in various ways as well. For example we could safely say today that should this occur that TPTB would begin making vault like safe houses for seed banks. (they have actually done this by the way ) Some monies would go to the underground bunkers and shelter type 'cities' to house those selected and some would go to undersea bases as well as off world shelters either on the nearby moon or in space stations.
One could even say that some sort of genetic material harvesting of various DNA from all manner of life would be underway and what do you know? We could wonder big with cattle and horse mutilations as well as some other various reports of abducting humans and harvesting eggs and so on. Hmmmm?!

It could be argued that when money grew short that a giant fraud was perpetrated on mankind to simply take the money for some kind of giant bail out that was all a scam just to get money needed for these black op secret safe house projects to save TPTB and their selected minions leaving the rest of humanity to fend for themselves while they all seek shelter in their safe houses. One could also see that finally some sense could be made of all the wild spending like their is no tomorrow if one accepts that perhaps someone somewhere knows 'their really ain't no tomorrow!' But thats another story and needs to be proven.

My thoughts on UFO's are that they are simply survivors of the last time a great cataclysm struck and sent man back to the stone age. They survived in various ways, in various places that explain the 'gods' coming down from the sky, out of the ground, myths of having origins in caves, and gods coming up from the sea and going back to the sea. All these tales and more can be found in ancient writings with no problem at all. Looking at it for what it is or what it probably is we can safely assume once more that when these survivors finally were allowed by protocol or orders or whatever the case may be, be it from instrument reading saying its safe or predetermined dates set by their standing orders when they left that when they returned man no longer had much more on his mind than surviving. Those that survived did so by shear luck and those that were born after probably didn't get much in the way of education about history so by the time these survivors came back they were basically able to play god at will with the primitive stone age cast aways left to fend for themselves and even pick and choose among the woman as they saw fit.

It stands to reason that they kept their society and technologies separate from those that were unfamiliar and that they have formed a smaller sub or shadow society, even shadow government that actually calls the shots and perhaps always has as the so called 'watchers' of ancient stories and myths.

Anyway, thats my ramblings on it. I know the sayings about assuming but in this case something tells me that ancient leaders would have behaved much the same way as our leaders would today. If a calamity was coming they would not tell us about it and if they could get away with playing god to rule easier they'd darn sure do it in a heartbeat!

STR
 
I think UFO's are very much earth based terrestrial technologies.
There are about a dozen different categories of UFO. Most of them probably do originate here on Earth. A few of them might not meet your definition of "technology" though.
That being that ancient writings seem to point to a time in the past when man was more advanced than what we learned in school.
Sooper Sekret. "Only crazy people belief stuff like that."
Let us assume that our leaders, we'll call them the powers that be (TPTB for short) discovered through various means that a giant cataclysm was imminent and that there was absolutely nothing they could do to prevent it. l. . . .It could be argued that when money grew short that a giant fraud was perpetrated on mankind to simply take the money for some kind of giant bail out that was all a scam just to get money needed for these black op secret safe house projects to save TPTB and their selected minions leaving the rest of humanity to fend for themselves while they all seek shelter in their safe houses. One could also see that finally some sense could be made of all the wild spending like their is no tomorrow if one accepts that perhaps someone somewhere knows 'their really ain't no tomorrow!'
Now you went and done it. No-one is supposed to know about that either.
One could even say that some sort of genetic material harvesting of various DNA from all manner of life would be underway and what do you know? We could wonder big with cattle and horse mutilations as well as some other various reports of abducting humans and harvesting eggs and so on. Hmmmm?
There are numerous theories on who is doing this and why. One theory postulates that guvmint scientists are covertly examining the glands of certain animals in certain areas to check for traces of some non-specified contamination or disease that they don't want the public to know about.
My thoughts on UFO's are that they are simply survivors of the last time a great cataclysm struck and sent man back to the stone age.
That is one theory, but maybe they aren't "men" at all.
It stands to reason that they kept their society and technologies separate from those that were unfamiliar and that they have formed a smaller sub or shadow society, even shadow government that actually calls the shots and perhaps always has as the so called 'watchers' of ancient stories and myths.
Well, that is the basis of several conspiracy theories as well as numerous legends and myths right there. I think that maybe they were directly involved with our political process at one time, but then there was a diplomatic faux pas of some sort and they ain't so cordial and co-operative anymore. If they were helping us in any significant way -- even way behind the scenes -- I think things would be running a lot smoother.
 
Ya know, I get all jazzed any time the find a new mammal that we didn't know about. Seeing that we are still finding PEOPLE is really cool.

As far as alien life and space travel, well I dunno. I am a very small brained and simple man. Quantum mechanics boggle my mind as much as the notion of wearing pants stumps a dog:p

However, if I were to make a quasi uneducated guess, I would have to go with inter-dimensional travel. Resent studies have found that our universe may very well be a multiverse. They were able to make a thin paddle of metal vibrate yet stand still at the same time. THAT is impressive. Finding out that a thing can exist simultaneously on different planes gives my widdle noggin a cramp.

However, that means that perhaps space travel isn't really space travel as in linear. Also, folding space is not required. If our universe is a piece of typing paper, it is no longer about getting from one far side to the to other, or even trying to figure out how to fold the paper to make the AB trip doable. It's now a matter of punching a small hole in the paper and simply dropping down to the next sheet.

Perhaps if the multiverse thing holds water, maybe there are civilizations so old and so vast that not only have they conquered immortality but maybe have escaped multiple universal collapses (think of it as ducking out right as Shiva gets into town). Furthermore, perhaps these multiverses are structured in such a way certain crucial points are the same in each one much like the way molecules line up to stabilize. That would mean that perhaps dropping "one level down" wouldn't put you in a random place (or in the center of a star:eek:), but would allow you to observe various "versions" of planets under various conditions. Maybe the visitors used a similar formula as we do to calculate the probability of life on our planet, moved between the spaces close enough to see us, then simply "flipped the channel" until it found an earth that supported life. If you're immortal, watching mankind evolve and change would feel like watching bacteria grow, divide, and die under a microscope.

Like I said, I know next to nothing on this stuff. I'm just sentient space dust with a high probability of actually being a simulation program in the far future. But it is fun to exercise our minds with debate, yes?
 
UFO's are just us from the future once we've invented time machines. :)

Believe it or not, that has been suggested before. The classic "Roswell grey" aliens bear a broad resemblance to what some scientists think we'll look like in, say, 100,000 years.
 
Believe it or not, that has been suggested before. The classic "Roswell grey" aliens bear a broad resemblance to what some scientists think we'll look like in, say, 100,000 years.

Really? I mean I don't doubt that given enough time and with enough technological dependence that we could easily shrink in stature. However, is the 100,000 years time frame a real number they have stated? I'm actually very curious. My thoughts that we could radically transform would take many, many generations. Maybe 1,000,000 years or better.

However, as a social scientist, I cannot discredit the idea that our lifestyle and technological prowess my speed this transformation up ten fold.

I'm not trying to be rude. I hope I'm not coming off like that regarding the time frame. I just earnestly would like to know:):thumbup:

But, I could certainly see inter-dimensionals visiting our past and having their technology crap out on them. I mean, even if I were a lowly scientist studying the habits of rock-wielding monkeys, if cut off from going home what would I do?....Umm use my technological expertise to frame myself as some sort of god:D If I have to live out my days with savage monkey people, I might as well be waited on hand and foot, right?;)
 
Really? I mean I don't doubt that given enough time and with enough technological dependence that we could easily shrink in stature.

But, I could certainly see inter-dimensionals visiting our past and having their technology crap out on them. I mean, even if I were a lowly scientist studying the habits of rock-wielding monkeys, if cut off from going home what would I do?....Umm use my technological expertise to frame myself as some sort of god:D If I have to live out my days with savage monkey people, I might as well be waited on hand and foot, right?;)


My thoughts follow yours. I don't think we'd change in physical appearance all that significantly unless the changes were a result of some kind of mutation from like a radiation melt down in the future or something. I suppose anything is possible. I mean last night I watched a Big Foot special where a researcher suggested quite seriously that all Big Foot sightings were just Shaman in training from various Native cultures still practicing their traditions of sending out someone to live off the land and become one with it for a time before advancing spiritually. It all made sense except for one part. I have not figured out how deciding to become wild man would make my feet grow???:confused:

STR
 
You'd think, if it were future humans, they'd develop a ship that didn't put out so much radiation and fry everything within 20 yards.
 
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