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I'd have deleted this thread by now if I could, but the software won't let me. I've e-mailed spark, but I don't expect anything soon.

Jack -- you're out of line. You traded me crap that you got cheap and no one else wants for premium knives.

It was my first forum trade, and I didn't know the rules and I didn't know "undo" was an option. Yes, I should have done it differently.

I simply wrote it off as the learning curve of Bladeforums.

I was MUCH more careful in this deal with Underdog.

Again, I went out of my way to make it clear to you that I would NOT decide anything on the phone. That I wanted to research the values and see pics of the knives you offered, and that I would "get back to you" tonight. I e-mailed you to say "no thanks" as soon as I decided I didn't want to deal with you again.

Mike
 
mike , i guess you are one of the only people on bf to say i deal in crap the knife i traded to you a brad duncan manual i did this only cause another forumite was not straight with me regarding payment and i felt he was jerking me around in fact he was willing to pay me 400.00for it i gave you 25.00in cash on top ogf it for it i got a bogie that is 295.00new a mint wegner jr and spydie mouse you felt as i did that tghis was a fair trade then i messed up the blade profile was the one on my auto my bad i sent you a nib spydie maybe older but new maybe new old stock but not used i would have appreciated you being honest with me funny earlier tonight i was a good guy :confused: i tried to help you out and help out jerry as well again the guy in the middle gets screwed you assured me last night you were cool with the deal and that you would do nothing till we again talked by phone again you lied about me then about jerry aka underdog clearly you are out of your league in dealing with either of us jerry and i probably have about a dozen hi dollar custom knife deals with each other neither of us ever sniveled like you did we acted like men and worked it out you are not only a dishonest person but you are a coward and a liar why certainly last night and tonight you truly appreciated my help in working out this deal you need to grow up and play within your means clearly you are out of your league with behavior that you have exhibited here it is no wonder that your wife left you and wants everything ;) face facts you were out of line you owe both opf us an apology and retraction my reputation on this forum is intact and is platinum AAA+++;) JAXURMAN :p
 
Strange deal. You say you dont like the knife because its just over 3.5" It seems you want to be very precise in your measuring which is fine. I looked at you picture in the poll in the general forum. I suppose if ya wanted to be picky, you might try re-measuring. Look REAL close, the tip of the knife is almost directly even with the first 1/16" mark, and not the end of the ruler where it should be. If you moved the tip to the proper place (even with the end of the ruler) it looks like it would be the 3.5" you are looking for.

As far as people condoning un-doing a deal just because "ya dont like it", I guess if those conditions are made clear at first, its ok. However, I always describe my trades in as much detail as possible. I also ask the other party to do the same. Then if I get the knife, assuming it is how they described, if I just dont "like it", thats my own tough luck. Im not going to ask somebody to miss a possible deal, just so I can see if I like their knife or not. Folks, the individuals here are NOT Wal-mart. If you just wanna get your hands on a knife to see "if ya like it" then go to a dealer that offers that. If you buy from an idividual, and he has described the condition accurately, then whether or not you "like" the feel of the knife or whatever is not his problem.
 
Here I am sitting up ALL PHUCKING NIGHT licking what was first just a small wound, but is now a GAPING Surgical slice from removimg my dick from my mouth, my heart from my head and my right boot that I shoved up my ARSE

I was given some very healthy and wise advice to JUST put my issue to bed, but Why TF listen? I got BONED out of two used 1986-ish Spydercos I did NOT even know I ever owned.

So Jared goes and lies about shipping me a Gerber 600 when it's a 400, and then adds that one of the tip's is broken. I post all of this in GB&U BECAUSE Jared has refused to answer one of the fifty E-mails I have sent to ask him WHY. Jared responds by sending me multiple E-mails with a download that has a folder full of the exact same photo of my two knives that I posted.

I was told to STOP by the freakin BEST FOLKS I have ever met, but NEVER met right here on BF. I did NOT listen and now I eat SH*T and I deserve a plate full. And in my case, Jared never once used E-mail or my home phone number to "talk" face to face.

NOW I read this CRAP. Guys, PHUCKING STOP and think!!! This is going to destroy Many of us if it continues. What are we all gonna do in VEGAS? bring a freakin pair of BOXING GLOVES!!! or just a .45ACP?

Remember Tom Junta of MA. thought a little too long with his heart..Nuff said..Ira:(
 
Jack,

I _really_ don't know what your problem is here. Yes, you sent me a different knife than you said you were going to. Yes, you sent me another knife to make up the difference in value between what you said you were going to send, and what you actually sent. You said it was an honest mistake, and I went along with it. I wasn't happy about the whole deal, but it chose to believe you didn't purposely mislead me.

No, Underdog isn't WalMart. Yes, I was prepared to "live with it" if I didn't like it, as long as it was truly 1/8" to 1/16" UNDER 3.5", when measured from the "end of the bolster to the tip of the blade". That's what he told me. I've posted his original e-mail.

Since.
1. It's longer THAN THAT
2. I don't like it

I think he should have taken it back.

It was very nice of you to offer to trade your $425 Terzoula for the $550 Mayo, but I told you I needed to think about it, and I would get back to you with my decision. I decided no. And immediatly got back to you. Sorry that didn't work out, but geez. Get over it.

Mike
 
From: UnderdogIzHere@aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:46:53 EST
To: michael_aos@mac.com
Subject: Re: lightfoot..

the TNT is $530..it sells for $599.95 but, tom is not making them anymore..
i need to know if you really want it..because, i am losing out on two other
trades..to take yours...and like all forumites..i will adhere to their
policy.. if the TNT is defective..i will take it back but, i do not think it
is fair to either of us to trade knives..keep it a day or two and trade
back..ties up too much time and we both lose $$...

That's pretty clear and up-front. But so is this:

From: UnderdogIzHere@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:48:30 EST
To: michael_aos@mac.com
Subject: Re: lightfoot..

i measured it from end of bolster to the tip and i got a little less than 3.5
inches..

If it had REALLY been the size he said it was, I'd have kept it even though I didn't like it. Since it was larger than he said, AND I didn't like it, I thought it should go back.

Mike
 
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Like most threads of this nature it has served no purpose ~ except to prove that "they agree to disagree !"
 
Honestly I can"t believe it.I think it has a lot to do with MATURITY.
Micheal couldn't you use a little restraint on your posting?
Gig what do you think?????

"What we have here is a faila to communicate" BANG
 
The two poll threads mentioned are http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=187017 and http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=187093

I'll attach the picture to this post too so everyone can see for themselves how long the blade is.

I wonder if any of the people who posted in this thread will think a little longer before posting after this....

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