So I went out on the property of my apartment complex this morning to try a bowdrill. There was a limb that was sitting out by the dumpster so I cut a few pieces for my set but it was a hardwood so I was pretty dubious right off the bat. I spent probably 45 minutes trying to get the drill carved and I was maybe half way there at best. I figured with as hard as it was I was going to have a pretty tough time getting an ember if I ever did get the set finished so I gave up. I'll give it another try at some point soon.