Umnumzaan vs. Sebenza - my $0.02

PiterM said:
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This photo says a thousand words, and I agree with you Pete. As I stated in another thread..."As long as the Umnum is around, I can't ever seeing buying another large Classic Sebenza for a heavy duty carry knife." For a larger tactical folder, the Umnumzaan being this robust totally fits the bill. Chris hit a Grand-Slam with this knife!
Great review Piter and excellent photos as norm.
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So the Umm is a Tactical folder!
And the Sebenza is a Utility folder. Is that it?
 
Whatever you like... Umnum's blade is just stronger than Sebenza's. And both are great knives. Let's just not start a never ending discussion which features make a folder *tactical* ;)
 
PiterM said:
Whatever you like... Umnum's blade is just stronger than Sebenza's. And both are great knives. Let's just not start a never ending discussion which features make a folder *tactical* ;)
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No need to have any discussion at all. As inane as this whole "tactical" thing is, one can still readily ascertain the salient ideas. They are essentially greater utility as a weapon and enhanced strength, at the expense of utility as a basic cutting tool.

The simple way to accomplish this is to ELIMINATE THE FOLDING MECHANISM.

The whole “tactical folder” thing is absurd. No sane person is going to feel secure thrusting wildly about in a life-or-death situation with a folding knife. No sane person would seriously contemplate substituting a folding knife for a fixed blade, if the primary use parameters were stabbing, prying, extrication, etc., etc.

Let me put it this way: If I were walking down the river trail in the dark with a folding knife and a screwdriver (which actually has happened) and someone grabbed me from behind, I would draw the screwdriver, not the knife. Same thing with prying open a door, beating a hole in metal, etc.

Why do I persist with this argument? Because in a world gone mad with tacticalification, CRK has continued to offer folding knives that are simply robust cutting tools. They have a little more structure than is needed to perform heavy utility cutting tasks, but not to the extent that the knife’s basic utility is compromised. The Sebenza is the best knife of this sort on the planet.

The implication of “overbuilt” is excessively built. To the point that there is more of something you want less, and less of something you want more. In the real world, that is not good design.
 
Based on this review,I'll be getting an Umnumzaan first & then a Sebenza.

:thumbup:Thanks for the great review:)


I like tough knives.If the Umnumzaan is tougher than a Sebbie,I'm going to opt for that one first.No disrespect towards the Sebbie though.Not at all.

If I want an "artsy",fancy gent knife I'd be willing to spend $400-$1000 on a William Henry or a Klotzi.
 
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I'm into lightness now, in a folder, big-time, or I do believe I would scarff a Umm! Thanks!
 
Hey Piter, thanks for the review. As far as the weight difference ... is it enough of a difference to be noticeable when in the pocket? Also.. does the umnumzaan come with a tool for disassemble ?? And lastly, with the different thumb lugs, is it easier/faster to open than the sebenza?
 
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Lycosa said:
I'm into lightness now, in a folder, big-time, or I do believe I would scarff a Umm! Thanks!
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The folder(Umnum) is extremely light for it's size actually. I guess not compared to the likes of lets say an Emerson CQC-10. But then again the thickness isn't there in the Emerson where as in the CRK.

The simplicity of design gathered with robustness is what's keeping this knife in my pocket. Very cool!
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So, basically the Umnum is a beefed up Sebbie. I like the look of the Umnum but, I've never heard of a Sebenza breaking before. I don't really see the need of having a Umnum other than from a collectors point of view.
 
I like that grooved Sebenza a lot. wish someone had one to sell to me.
 
Lycosa said:
Jos---Very good. MG-34 and 42!! Are you into the German weapons? :)
What about the STG-44?
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Well, let's say that I find weapons in general a very interesting subject. Before all my attention (and money) was drawn by knives, I used to collect ammunition. (20th century rifle calibers)

Kind regards,

Jos
 
love4steel said:
Hey Piter, thanks for the review. As far as the weight difference ... is it enough of a difference to be noticeable when in the pocket? Also.. does the umnumzaan come with a tool for disassemble ?? And lastly, with the different thumb lugs, is it easier/faster to open than the sebenza?
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anyone else know the answers to these questions please?
 
No tool yet, and I found the 2004 experimental wide thumb grooves markedly inferior.
 
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