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Discussion in 'Tech Support, General Q&A, Site Feedback & More' started by Boru13, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    No reason to lock this thread but enough reasons to ban YOU from replying any further... at least that's my point of view ;)

    I suggested earlier that if are having issues to start another thread, my suggestion still stands.
  2. Kiah

    Kiah S&S Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 20, 2006
    I have. Like I said, offers aren't supposed to be posted in a thread, so that's one way it may happen. Or someone may say they'll take it in conversation after messaging a question. Whatever the reason, all one has to do is post a followup in the thread to enable feedback in the software if they wanna leave it.

    Was just trying to give you an example of why the thing you're complaining about might occur, and an easy solution. I don't really have any "self important views" on whether people leave feedback for each other.

    Because only one person seems to wanna make a ruckus over it?
  3. lex137

    lex137 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 24, 2012
    I’m glad sellers can no longer charge more than PayPals set fees!
  4. cj65

    cj65 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 30, 2008
    I did not know I was a 50 something millennial, but hey, I still feel young at heart!
  5. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    There's nothing in the updated rule concerning that.

    Sellers can charge whatever they want to charge, they just have to list a total sale price now.
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  6. dyavorsky

    dyavorsky Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 24, 2017
    @Boru13 - two questions:

    (1) Is "total sales price" meant to include shipping?

    (2) Is it fine to post different total sales prices? e.g., $100 for G&S shipped 1st class in the US, $95 for F&F, $105 for Priority, $120 if shipped to Switzerland, etc. -- Obviously people aren't likely going to post more than 2 of these prices in a single thread, but just to get the idea across.

    I guess what I'm trying to figure out is... how do you feel about these examples:
    • $103 PP G&S, $100 PP F&F
    • $105 PP G&S, $100 PP F&F
    • $105 PP G&S. Price includes USPS standard shipping. Add $4 for priority shipping.
    • $105 PP G&S. Price includes USPS standard shipping. International buyers pay extra shipping costs.
    (and thanks for re-railing this thread)
  7. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    I think you had better read the rule again.
  8. JohnWE

    JohnWE Basic Member Basic Member

    Dec 7, 2013
    You should stop while you're behind.
  9. dyavorsky

    dyavorsky Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 24, 2017
    @craytab - what am I missing?

    The new "total selling price" isn't specific as to whether that includes shipping or not. Shipping costs can be substantial for internationally shipped packages.

    F&F is "strongly discouraged" but not outright disallowed.

    My read of the new rules is that there has been an attempt to disallow/clarify what all that "net to me" language was implying. Is "net" net of shipping costs, net of PP fees, net of (as someone else pointed out) gas money to get to the post office? But I'm now trying to make sure I/we understand what "total" implies.

    Maybe all of this just falls under rule 7: "Be specific with all details of payment."
  10. benchwarmer380

    benchwarmer380 Valyrian Member Platinum Member

    Sep 17, 2012
    I would say yes, that the price should include shipping, insurance, PP fees etc. at least to US or your domicile country. International buyers and sellers generally understand that it's going to cost more to get it there. If you're open to international sales, state the price is to the US and that they should inquiry for shipping to their country.

    That was, IMO, one of the problems with net to me. It was commonly used incorrectly to only mean PP fees for some reason. The new rule is an attempt to cut out the ambiguity and honestly, the stupidity of some of the sales language.
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  11. RayseM

    RayseM Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 18, 2010
    Are these REAL examples as to how you might set up pricing in your sale threads? +/- $ 3 or $ 4.00??? :confused:

    Man if you are playing the margins that close why even bother? YES, YES, I can understand asking someone to PM or email to you in order to discuss international shipping costs which should be extra as there are so many variables, otherwise why clutter up your sale thread with nickel & dimeing? o_O

    Just set the price that you need (or want) all inclusive and if you are feeling unsure, ask people to PM or email with OFFERS. Easy and straight forward. Just sayin'.

  12. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Read the first post. Also, I already asked about international shipping on the first page or two.

    I get what you are saying though. Maybe it should be clarified in the actual rule. @Boru13
  13. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    Read all 11 pages to see if international shipping was addressed only to find it 2 posts from the end :)
    not playing the lotto tonight.

    I agree with your take on the shipping-seems like the only common sense answer I can think of
  14. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    To answer your questions, my interpretation of "total sales price" should include shipping... obviously "international" is different, depending on country, method of shipping, etc., but for domestic sales it shouldn't be to hard to figure out or at the very least get within a few dollars.

    As far as your examples, I won't comment on the first two ;), the bottom two I have no problem with.
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  15. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    It was discussed on page one.
  16. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Post #7
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  17. Darkpast

    Darkpast Gold Member Gold Member

    May 5, 2013
    Read (past tense), understood.
  18. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    Now I feel even worse-don't know how I missed it
  19. Mecha

    Mecha Madscienceforge.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Indeed! :D
    dyavorsky likes this.
  20. knarfeng

    knarfeng senex morosus moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Jul 30, 2006
    BladeForums is a private site. There are no "first amendment" rights here.
    LizaMari, tyyreaun, craytab and 5 others like this.

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