Victorinox and Swissbianco

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As an explanation, if you read it carefully, besides the Italian/Swiss slur that I did not publish, but referred to, you'll find that +B refers to himself as some sort of "special swiss" which I know nothing about. Additionally, he refers Swiss it's special...and better than anything else.

remember, i work in collaboration directly with mr elsener. im not only swiss, im eidgenosse"

Therefore, by definition:

Noun 1. racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

The shoe fits., and he's wearing it.

Everything else is proven in his own correspondence, which is why it was posted that way.

Agreed, I didn't do a great job of editing, copying, pasting quoting etc. to prove the points. That was intentional because those communications are entirely unaltered except for my sig line.

Please refer to this origional thread in multi-tools to understand this issue.

Sure he's outraged. So am I. I've given the man $500 for product which has yet to be delivered. In the process of this delay I have missed multiple opportunities to buy the came product for a lesser price. I've had product offered at a given price only to have it auctioned on eBay when the seller obtained a supply, and during that process there was an attempt at price gouging. Also, the offer was sent specifically outside of the eBay auction format.

"hello,

was your last bid on that $ 150 or $ 111? the ebay names are complex...
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Yes,

I looked that up as well, but my query remains. If you're swiss and the confederation is about 3 equal parties, what is the point in stating you are a a "certain type of swiss"? Anyway, I think that Mr. +B made my case for me in posting his 24 hour "ultimatum". The true colors are just BLAZING through here. This is obviously someone who does not understand the laws or culture of his largest customer base. Enough said.
 
The accusations of racism are ludicrous. Italians are not a race. His statement was equivalent to the generalizations we often make about people from any part of the U.S.....Yankees talk too fast, southerners move too slow,....whatever. We all know that there's a generalization for every part of the country, and although they may (or may not) have some basis in fact, they do not describe everyone. We can't be hypersensitive to these generalizations if we are to coexist.
 
Defined:

race 1 (rs)
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.

Your opinion is technically incorrect.
 
marcangel said:
+B refers to himself as some sort of "special swiss"
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Who cares? This is a knife forum.

Every time I have sent Swissbianco some money for a sweet SAK, +B has sent me exactly what I ordered. I recently ordered and received the elusive Yeoman, and a black Farmer. No complaints here.

I agree with Ty that this thread has run its course. JMO. :thumbup:
 
First off those knives are not that elusive. Secondly, we're on Jesus mode folks! Back from the dead! I've had NO knives from Swissbianco, no communications other than the one's published here. And he's had MY money for nearly 6 months. I've waited less time for custom knives, that are paid for on delivery! It's football season...so you make the call! As an aside I DID get my knife from an online dealer 3 weeks ago ....so where are these super special "swiss version damascus Pioneers?
 
swissbianco said:
since you posted that you got that sak cheaper from another source i did paypal you the money back. also i got 2 sak less than ordered, we work on get more but who nows if that happens.

i have again to point out that cause of the many aspects of my work, on two continents, design, manufacturing, organizing, marketing and selling of my work, it all needs time and patience. if you are not willing to wait if an item is not in stock, please do not email me. my work is unique and many of them you cant get anywhere else and since i do the things the swiss way, quality etc needs time! i hope this make it clear.
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Are we ready to move on now?
 
marcangel said:
First off those knives are not that elusive. Secondly, we're on Jesus mode folks! Back from the dead! I've had NO knives from Swissbianco, no communications other than the one's published here. And he's had MY money for nearly 6 months. I've waited less time for custom knives, that are paid for on delivery! It's football season...so you make the call! As an aside I DID get my knife from an online dealer 3 weeks ago ....so where are these super special "swiss version damascus Pioneers?
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Heh? :confused:

Elusive? Exclusive? Jesus? Football season?

Here's Touchdown Jesus. Maybe he can sort this out.

touchdown-jesus.jpg
 
Well it seems that, just today Mr. Swissbianco realized he only got 20 damascus SAKs instead of 22. Interesting. Guess who the short order went to? Or possibly there was no difference between what shipped to the U.S. and those "special swiss ones". Obviously, we may never know. Well he did refund my $444.00, but only after posting in his portion of the forum (twice I might add) and the rant placed here. Just remember guys, I've bought stuff from this guy from the the beginning and have literally sent thousands of dollars his way over a period of more than 5 years.
 
and still for sale at the ridiculously low price of nearly 3 TIMES more than what you could have gotten them for from online sources....

Great customer service here, get it NOW! Price gouge your good clients then refund their money in the expectation of making a higher profit on eBay!


BUY from an ethical dealer! Here's yor chance! Special super dooper swiss knives here!:eek::eek:
 
marcangel said:
and still for sale at the ridiculously low price of nearly 3 TIMES more than what you could have gotten them for from online sources....

Great customer service here, get it NOW! Price gouge your good clients then refund their money in the expectation of making a higher profit on eBay!


BUY from an ethical dealer! Here's yor chance! Special super dooper swiss knives here!:eek::eek:
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Well... it is a pretty nice knife.
 
Obviously the Swiss have never fought a modern war...

You hold someones money for over 6 months.

You don't deliver the goods.

You REFUND the money, say you were 2 knives short on your order...

THEN you sell them on eBay for 4X the discount price, and more than TWICE the inflated price you tried to sell them to me for...

And you think I'm going to go away?:jerkit::eek:

hello,

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=781035

again, after how you treated me i do not help you anymore at all, as i did bevore!

+B

What did you ever do? I give you money you give me product (late usually) which is what started this whole bunch of garbage.

Dude, you suck as a vendor. give it up!

I'm going to write Victorinox and see if you have "factory authorization" for those mods you sell. Might be an interesting letter... in reply.:D
 
marcangel said:
Obviously the Swiss have never fought a modern war...

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And you think I'm going to go away?:jerkit::eek:

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Dude, you suck as a vendor. give it up!
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This is trolling. Your posts have no new information, and only serve your personal vendetta. Plus, your continuing to purchase Victorinox products and bidding on Swissbianco auctions within a couple of weeks after declaring them "bad" in this thread completely discredited your boycott campaign. Your bandwagon is in the ditch. Give it up.
 
I am inclined to agree. No new information, no reason to bump the thread.
Instead, improper icon, improper terminology. Enough. I am closing this.
 
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