Victorinox says goodbye to distributors

Does anyone have any sort of source for the OP's comment? Two full pages and it still hasn't been revealed. Just curious. FWIW Thanks.
 
It's for real. I don't have a link.

Vote with your wallets, folks. Vic must think they're doing well.
 
This was posted this morning on Amazon's Daily Deals release........

"Additional $10 Savings at Checkout on Your $50 Purchase of Select Swiss Army Knives and Multitools Sold by Amazon.com"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=pe_70010_14165070_pe_t6/?docId=1000499231

As for Knife Outlet's post - I would accept most anything he posts of this nature as being authentic......He has been on this Forum long enough, to not qualify as a "random guy". :)

I can't believe all the angst this thread has created...:(
 
NDJeep said:
Easy Sport....:D

Hey, I appreciate the heads up...but I dont get why you're all defensive when someone asks "where'd you get this news?"

Its a non-threatening, normal question.

Newsflash**** RUMORS DO EXIST OUT THERE ON THE NET.
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+1. Didn't see anything personal or offensive in the original query by Freedom about sources. :D

And thanks for the heads up about the SAK MAP. :thumbup:
 
Knife Outlet said:
Not a problem. I promise not to post anything newsworthy again. I'll leave it up to someone else.
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The Jerk Store called, and they are running out of you.
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What's with this defensive attitude? All the guy wanted was a little more information. I appreciate this thread, but you're acting like a weirdo with a persecution complex.
 
Seems to me that the messenger is being shot here.
Google is your friend, anyone wishing verification is welcome to use it.
Lets all act like grownups and discuss the shortcomings of the MAP program and not each other, M'kay?
 
I apologize if i crossed any lines in my replies beyond the first.


Back on topic:
That Amazon deal is pretty good, i just spent the last 20 minutes trying to get my cart to $50 but then i realized i don't really want another SAK.
 
I don't know what to say.

Too many people here think making demands on each other is proper etiquette. It is not. Ask, fine. Don't get an answer, move on. Get an actual answer and don't like it, start slinging insults? Grow up.

Knife Outlet has been in this business a while. He has come out before with interesting ideas. That you aren't aware of this or familiar with him doesn't make him the "random guy".

Anything like this MAP always draws fire. Benchmade still has singe-marks around the edges of its logo. The story will continue. You got a heads-up; he doesn't owe you a journalistic investigation.

I'm moving this to FEEDBACK.
 
MAP doesnt affect the "click for price" concept because its the same as entering a storefront. once there, you can sell for whatever you want.

MAP does a good job for companies that produce very similar products that may not directly benefit from continual lowering of prices. gives better margins to retailers in some cases as well
 
mongomondo said:
The Jerk Store called, and they are running out of you.
gordonramseyohdear.jpg


What's with this defensive attitude? All the guy wanted was a little more information. I appreciate this thread, but you're acting like a weirdo with a persecution complex.
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You folks really need to learn some manners. No, he didn't want more information. He wanted me to prove what I said. He made an assumption that I invented the information or lied. The distributors got the information at around 9:00 that morning. Nobody knew about it except for them and you all.

Thanks, Esav. You are always a rock of common sense.

I should note that the MAP policy isn't the important issue here. In fact the MAP program that was announced about a month ago didn't include most of the Victorinox product line. Mostly, it just included the products that Amazon carries. The important issue is that Victornox has slashed the number of dealers that carry their products - a whole lot.

MAP programs don't usually work very well. In case you haven't noticed, you can buy Benchmade knives discounted every day on Ebay. What does work more effectively to raise prices is to reduce competition among the dealers. I doubt the MAP policy will do anything to raise prices. Slashing the dealer base certainly will, however.
 
wyattT said:
MAP doesnt affect the "click for price" concept because its the same as entering a storefront. once there, you can sell for whatever you want.

MAP does a good job for companies that produce very similar products that may not directly benefit from continual lowering of prices. gives better margins to retailers in some cases as well
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You think clicking to get a price is comparable to traveling to a store or even telephoning a store to get a price?
 
Well, if MAP leads to the manufacturer eliminating their use of distributors (like it has done this time with Vic.) it shuts the door on small dealers like me. I will not be able to carry the product any longer. I pride myself on superior service, fast shipping and low prices. I cannot see how excluding small dealers like me is good for the knife buyer.
Certainly the manufacturer is free to make that decision but if you think they are making it for the consumer's best interest...guess again.

Robert
 
Knife Outlet said:
He wanted me to prove what I said.
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Come on, Fred, people who don't know you are naturally going to want to know where info like that comes from, and there are always going to be people who don't know you -- new people are joining up all the time.
He made an assumption that I invented the information or lied.
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No he didn't. People who haven't made things up or lied talk nonsense all the time. Some people don't know what they're talking about, and yet they talk anyway. The net is full of rumors....

Next time just ignore it and wait a minute. In a few minutes someone will explain to the newbies who you are and that you know what you're talking about, and we can go on talking about the news and not get sidetracked.
 
Patriot Knives said:
Well, if MAP leads to the manufacturer eliminating their use of distributors
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It sounds like Vic, and Benchmade (any others?) have taken a two step approach to minimize or eliminate deep discounting price wars on the net. The first is to eliminate the "distributor" sales channel that they cannot control; the second is establishing MAP and enforcing it by policing the net using 3rd party search companies.

What's been going on in the industry?

Have distributors been purchasing at deep quantity discounts and in turn selling to dealers at such low margins that dealers have a little room left to compete on the net on a cost basis alone?

Or, have distributors been taking advantage of their "distributor" pricing and discount schedules to set up web based retail outlets like the auction site stores and selling to end users essentially in competition with their dealers?

Whatever the reasons the consumer will have less chance to purchase at fire sale discounts and search engines "by lowest first" will not be as effective. Both in the case of Benchmade and Vic it seems "eliminating the middle man" outweighs the benefits the middle man distributors were providing.

Patriot Knives said:
eliminating their use of distributors (like it has done this time with Vic.) it shuts the door on small dealers like me. I will not be able to carry the product any longer.
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Is that because the "dealer" schedule requirements demand too high of unit minimums or to carry the "full" line and not cherry pick the fast movers or because pricing is so much higher than what distributors were willing to offer?

Of course, no doubt, if effective the result is going to be higher pricing to the consumer.
 
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