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Vlad contact good or bad seller?
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Esav Benyamin
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Guys, we don't need to slice each other up arguing about Vlad. Nozh2002 has been around BF a while. he has posted pictures, information about knives, reviews, and helped with information about Russian knives. He's not one of the bad guys.
The statement that Vlad sold knives to Russians was meant as a warning to Russians to be careful of dealing with him. Unfortunately Nozh misunderstood it as a slur on the Russian buyers. Lets all cool off instead of pushing each other into corners.
The statement that Vlad sold knives to Russians was meant as a warning to Russians to be careful of dealing with him. Unfortunately Nozh misunderstood it as a slur on the Russian buyers. Lets all cool off instead of pushing each other into corners.
What makes me wonder is why are (some of) you insulting him (=nozh2002)? Can't you express your opinion without insults? :thumbdn:
You know, Russians and Americans have so much common, among other things big nationalism...
So calm down, I doubt you would be acting same if he was American defending his "proud of his country" standpoint - often on wrong place and without a real reason.
You know, Russians and Americans have so much common, among other things big nationalism...
So calm down, I doubt you would be acting same if he was American defending his "proud of his country" standpoint - often on wrong place and without a real reason.
Sorry Esav, but this time he was just plain wrong, and for whatever reason has made absolutely no effort to understand what everyone on this thread basically has been trying to tell him. Instead he just slotted everyone up in his preconceived notions about Americans hating Russians and away he went. All he had to do was take people at their word when they said they were not dumping on Russians, but he was not willing to do that. It's no wonder he's getting some blowback and he has no one to blame but himself.
Probably a good idea. This noz person has shown what he is and everyone here can be the judge of that for themselves. There's no sense in prolonging a thread like this (other then maybe to keep raising awareness about vlad I suppose.)
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As retarded as this thread has become, at least it keeps people thinking about Vlad.
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its a shame that nozh couldn't bring himself to understand what people were telling him, that it was not an insult as he percieved it. I suspect that he is one of the good guys and that language, along with a sensitivity towards percieved insults, has led to this situation. Most of the threads he has started have been quite informative and I greatly enjoyed reading about russian makers, wootz, etc.
english is not nozh's first language and, though he speaks it well, I would imagine that he has trouble understanding the difference between what was said and what he thought was being said, in english.
Nozh is not defending vlad here, not that I see. I think he would have been better off responding with, "not all russians are like that. vlad gives us a bad name!" and leave it at that instead of leading the thread off track as he has.
english is not nozh's first language and, though he speaks it well, I would imagine that he has trouble understanding the difference between what was said and what he thought was being said, in english.
Nozh is not defending vlad here, not that I see. I think he would have been better off responding with, "not all russians are like that. vlad gives us a bad name!" and leave it at that instead of leading the thread off track as he has.
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Vassili is a good guy that has been a real valuable member of this forum. He is definitely not Vlad, and it's a real shame he took what was posted as an insult, when it definitely was not.
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Vassili may be a good guy if you say so- you are usually a good judge of character. What he has contributed to this forum is not known to me- I am not very active here.
However, his behavior in these past few days has been grossly unacceptable to say the least. His posts were childish, and insulting to many of the members here. You yourself called this thread now retarded.
Vassili also took a direct shot at me personally my making an accusation of sorts regarding my family name - I guess you think this was an OK thing to do? I think not.
You know the Vlad story very well, Keith, and I have shared much private information on the subject with you.
Many BF members (one in particular) have gone way above and beyond to try and get this Vlad douche-bag brought to justice- countless hours of work and digging to expose all the participants who were in cahoots with Vlad.
Now Vassili gets all postal and whiny and takes on the BF community to defend Russia? Russia (neither the country nor her people) was never brought into this in any accusatory manner. Not ever.
Vassili took the opportunity to use this forum to spew crap and adolescent bullshit and then taking his ball and leave the playground. GROW UP VASSILI!
I, for one, am not impressed by him and looking back on some of his many posts he does seem to speak and understand English very well--more than enough to have understood exactly what was being said and he should have been aware that nobody was making any inflammatory remarks about anyone, anything or anywhere other that Vlad and whoever he is/was working with.
Vassili claims that he has a better impression of this forum before this but not any more? So... if we all don't cowtow to him and agree with him then there is something wrong with us?
Huugh claims that we are too tough on Vassili and that he was only defending his country- well, huugh, read again- his country was never under attack.
Vassili owes the BF community an apology, and one to me as well, for that cheap shot. He disrespected all of us by pissing all over all this great work that has been done (and is still going on) to try a catch this creep. Vlad.
In the spirit of maturity, I will forget about what he said to me and be satisfied if he offers his apologies to the forum only.
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I agree that Vassili went way overboard with what he posted in this thread. My comments about his value to this forum have been because of the look he has given us at many fine Russian makers, and the many times he has posted information about wootz/bulat and European steels. He has also been helpful to me personally when I asked for help contacting some Russian knifemakers.
The fact is though that he is wrong about what he thinks was inferred by your comments.
The fact is though that he is wrong about what he thinks was inferred by your comments.
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maybe its just a russian thing but i can totally see where nozh is coming from. i am in this country for 7 years and married to the 100% american for 3.and when we first met one of her questions was:"Why in all the movies, bad guys are always russian?"
i also think that that "russian forums" part has no base under it (yes i have read that other topic) and if not offencive at least is missleading. the difference is: i don't give a darn and not going to argue, vasiliy does...
there is a thing russians have against americans and visa versa, i have learned to live with it.
p.s. pardon my bad spelling. english spelling and grammar are the hardest things to learn.
BTW, what is wrong with having russian last name? i had a friend in russia with the same last name and don't see anything wrong with it. ostro- means sharp in russian.
i also think that that "russian forums" part has no base under it (yes i have read that other topic) and if not offencive at least is missleading. the difference is: i don't give a darn and not going to argue, vasiliy does...
there is a thing russians have against americans and visa versa, i have learned to live with it.
p.s. pardon my bad spelling. english spelling and grammar are the hardest things to learn.
BTW, what is wrong with having russian last name? i had a friend in russia with the same last name and don't see anything wrong with it. ostro- means sharp in russian.
You can't judge "all" Americans by who or what is portrayed in the movies.
Don't "give a darn," but drag up a dead ass thread. :jerkit:
More generalizations.
well this is some ,, interesitng hoohar..
ok firstly, , dont think the guy actualy sold any knives in russia,,
unless he smuggled them into russia and was selling them there or had a friend with an importers licence do it,,
as you cant send knives to russia by post,
the customs would just take them home for them selves anyway if you did,
, hmm yeah seems there is quite alot of peopel in the west wo realy dont like russians, .. to an almost phcycotic degree......... .. odd,,
but then ther eis plenty who dont mind them atall..
seems the brainwashing was actualy better on the "free" side of the iron certian..
also yes ther eis an israili knife forum. and a small knife communaty there,
this vlad chappy is proably a jew from russia. living in israel....... hence the russian name, .
there is lots of dodgy russians doing internet crime unfortunatly, .. in russia after communisim a mentality has prevailed that crime isnt bad,, not among all russians by any means , but among some..
and it is very easy just to take money for people over the phone or net,, like these bride scames, (which are most of the time soem 18 year old moldavian boy with a computer and some fotos of some whores :S )
not that the average russian knife guy is a crook at all......... mostly they are ok.
ok firstly, , dont think the guy actualy sold any knives in russia,,
unless he smuggled them into russia and was selling them there or had a friend with an importers licence do it,,
as you cant send knives to russia by post,
the customs would just take them home for them selves anyway if you did,
, hmm yeah seems there is quite alot of peopel in the west wo realy dont like russians, .. to an almost phcycotic degree......... .. odd,,
but then ther eis plenty who dont mind them atall..
seems the brainwashing was actualy better on the "free" side of the iron certian..
also yes ther eis an israili knife forum. and a small knife communaty there,
this vlad chappy is proably a jew from russia. living in israel....... hence the russian name, .
there is lots of dodgy russians doing internet crime unfortunatly, .. in russia after communisim a mentality has prevailed that crime isnt bad,, not among all russians by any means , but among some..
and it is very easy just to take money for people over the phone or net,, like these bride scames, (which are most of the time soem 18 year old moldavian boy with a computer and some fotos of some whores :S )
not that the average russian knife guy is a crook at all......... mostly they are ok.
You "think he hasn't," but offer a means of doing so. LMAO
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You're not telling us anything that isn't already known.
You're kidding. That actually happens ?
It's as plain as day. . . . .no one is claiming otherwise. The focus has been on one person. The thief just happens to be Russian.
I don't know why you and several others have this insatiable desire to pop into this thread and defend Russian knife knuts. Again, the discussion centers on a thief. BFD, he's Russian.
I am not in any way involved in this discussion but from having read this entire thread, all I see is only Russians mentioning how they are hated by Americans
This was a thread about an individual not any country but from the beginning it was Noz that started spewing this crap. In fact, Gig mentioned at one point that both buyers(Russians) and sellers(Americans) were the victims, so where Noz got his "Russians being bad guys" is beyond me. Way to go Noz and turn this thread about an individual into an us versus them thread. Proud of yourself?
I don't care how much valuable info Noz has given because he has served to take this thread totally off topic. :jerkit:
And to ramash, huugh and ausjulius in here for making it a totally political issue? Proud? are you? again Thread Hijackers you are:jerkit:
Not one poster in here other than you guys spewed anything bad about Russians, it was all you:thumbdn: PT awards coming I am sure.:thumbup:
This was a thread about an individual not any country but from the beginning it was Noz that started spewing this crap. In fact, Gig mentioned at one point that both buyers(Russians) and sellers(Americans) were the victims, so where Noz got his "Russians being bad guys" is beyond me. Way to go Noz and turn this thread about an individual into an us versus them thread. Proud of yourself? I don't care how much valuable info Noz has given because he has served to take this thread totally off topic. :jerkit:
And to ramash, huugh and ausjulius in here for making it a totally political issue? Proud? are you? again Thread Hijackers you are:jerkit:
Not one poster in here other than you guys spewed anything bad about Russians, it was all you:thumbdn: PT awards coming I am sure.:thumbup:
well, you yanks are the ones being.. fleeced by the guy,, not russians......
no im rather shure he never sold any knives in russia,, there would be little sence.. due to the problems involved, unless he took afew with him , 10 or 15 knives
oooh big $$ yeah, pay for his holiday,,
russia is not like the u.s. my friend, every thing is xrays, checked, and controled , in the post aswell,a dnknvies cannot be sent in or out of russia by mail..
you cannot bring knives inot rusisa or take them out,, except in small amounts, and then only small knvies, like folding knvies and kitchen knvies,
the customs guys mostly like knives, and will see them and steal them,, it is normal,, they will also proably want some money aswell, a sthey will say you have broken some law or such,,
maybe the guy was in russia visiting his ol granny or what and sold 3 or 4 , but thats it, unless he had a firm ther eand imported them in bulk.. but then he would waste tiem fucking around o some forum, but sell the to shops and such in large amounts. as if he didn pay for them he could just sell them for what he wanted.
anyway ... the point is,, you should take care when dealing with russian people over the net,, there is people who do just such thing for a living, not just in russia mind you.
and many of these guys dont actualy live in russia or the former sfu...
, they also do this back to russian firms, pretenditng to be rich russians looking to import russian products to the u.s. or europe or such.
it is a common scam, thing is never sell to russian, chinese.. middle eastern,, asian,, ect ect firms on credit, never receve payment with a credit card and never take checques or such, as you dont realy know who you are dealing with and these places dont have laws protecting you if you are scammed,, it is simple as that :S
oh also never never buy anythign form ebay from russia :O , or the ukrain ect ect.. unless your in a charitable mood
gigone, your wanking motion conferims my views, .
no im rather shure he never sold any knives in russia,, there would be little sence.. due to the problems involved, unless he took afew with him , 10 or 15 knives
oooh big $$ yeah, pay for his holiday,, russia is not like the u.s. my friend, every thing is xrays, checked, and controled , in the post aswell,a dnknvies cannot be sent in or out of russia by mail..
you cannot bring knives inot rusisa or take them out,, except in small amounts, and then only small knvies, like folding knvies and kitchen knvies,
the customs guys mostly like knives, and will see them and steal them,, it is normal,, they will also proably want some money aswell, a sthey will say you have broken some law or such,,
maybe the guy was in russia visiting his ol granny or what and sold 3 or 4 , but thats it, unless he had a firm ther eand imported them in bulk.. but then he would waste tiem fucking around o some forum, but sell the to shops and such in large amounts. as if he didn pay for them he could just sell them for what he wanted.
anyway ... the point is,, you should take care when dealing with russian people over the net,, there is people who do just such thing for a living, not just in russia mind you.
and many of these guys dont actualy live in russia or the former sfu...
, they also do this back to russian firms, pretenditng to be rich russians looking to import russian products to the u.s. or europe or such.
it is a common scam, thing is never sell to russian, chinese.. middle eastern,, asian,, ect ect firms on credit, never receve payment with a credit card and never take checques or such, as you dont realy know who you are dealing with and these places dont have laws protecting you if you are scammed,, it is simple as that :S
oh also never never buy anythign form ebay from russia :O , or the ukrain ect ect.. unless your in a charitable mood
gigone, your wanking motion conferims my views, .
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No Russians were harmed in the making of this thread.
Eeeh. It's of course reasonable for you, but it feels awfull for me (yep, another new russian member because of this thread) - when I'm placing an order at online store and after checkout I'm getting an e-mail saying that "Sorry, no shipping to Russia". Recently I've been trying to buy some 5.11 clothing and Maxpedition stuff, and all four or five online stores I've been dealing with - ALL of them - refused to ship my order to Russia (including lapolicegear.com - my biggest frustration); two of them are still blocking money on my credit card and I have to wait for a month for the money to unblock.
Maxpedition stuff is really hard to find here, especially if you want to find certain color, and 5.11 prices are simply tripled - I can't allow myself to buy pants for more then $100, especially when I see same model priced in US online store for less then $30.
So your "never sell to russian" really stepped on my toes. I even filled out some forms to register here
BTW, about the topic - I can't really see in this thread anything that could piss off my fellow countrymen. If this "Vlad" ever sold anything stolen on russian forums - that's bad for all of us. It's not insulting - can't blame buyer for buying stuff that he never knew was stolen - but it's simply bad situation that throws a shadow on anyone related.
And all this story as well could be another reason for some online store owner to cancel any of my next orders.
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