Want a PM2 but...

[needler420]

I don't get why you think you know what people use their knife for, or why you think you know what others need. And saying he wants to take the "hype bandwagon" is pretty rude, when you know nothing about him.

You have no idea what he does on his way to work, after work, or on his lunch breaks.
Or maybe he just takes it because he like's it. I doubt it has anything to do with the "hype bandwagon" though.

I am going by what he said. He said he works in a office. I just don't see someone who says they work in a office setting needing a PM2 as a edc. Someone who tells me they work in the labor field I wouldn't question that.

You can use a machete to open a bag of potato chips. Just because you like machetes and potato chips doesn't justify what you use the knife for. Sure Its not my money and I'm not the one who has to live with it but I can give my opinion on it. PM2 is easily over hyped. People are buying that knife that don't even need it. They are buying it just because they come to some random forum and everyone is like yeah buy it buy it, its so good its the best knife ever made. You know what those people never even did? Ask him what he needs a knife for and the uses for the knife. Just praise it highly on pure hype. I call that bandwagon followers..

I mean no one buys a karambit to use as a utility knife.

 

[Nfd538]

PM2 is all around the nicest knife you will own from anyone at any price.

Agreed. I like it more then my 940-1 and 484-1 both more then double the price of the PM2. I'm always looking for more PM2's.

 

[Tdhurl1103]

Lol. I totally gave in to the hype surrounding the PM2. Glad I did. It's awesome, and worthy of said hype.

 

[Ken44]

I am going by what he said. He said he works in a office. I just don't see someone who says they work in a office setting needing a PM2 as a edc. Someone who tells me they work in the labor field I wouldn't question that.

You can use a machete to open a bag of potato chips. Just because you like machetes and potato chips doesn't justify what you use the knife for. Sure Its not my money and I'm not the one who has to live with it but I can give my opinion on it. PM2 is easily over hyped. People are buying that knife that don't even need it. They are buying it just because they come to some random forum and everyone is like yeah buy it buy it, its so good its the best knife ever made.
You know what those people never even did? Ask him what he needs a knife for and the uses for the knife. Just praise it highly on pure hype. I call that bandwagon followers..

I mean no one buys a karambit to use as a utility knife.

You don't know why people buy it. I have a few local friends that carry a PM2, and they have never logged onto a knife forum. Most knife users don't, so they're not buying from what they read on a forum.

You got all of that from his one post. Wow, you are good.
How do you know what he(or others) does after/before work ???
For all you know he could have to walk through a dark parking lot in a bad area before work, could hike a nearby trail at lunch, or do something after work where the PM2 would come in handy. He may even have xlarge hands and smaller knives won't work as well for him. He also may have to cut things at the office also, and a PM2 cuts well with all of the distal taper, and isn't a large heavy knife by any means.
We just can't assume after reading only his one post.

BTW- the Machete and Karambit aren't good analogies. Far from PM2's, and of course no one uses them for the things you mention.

 

[bdmicarta]

I am going by what he said. He said he works in a office. I just don't see someone who says they work in a office setting needing a PM2 as a edc. Someone who tells me they work in the labor field I wouldn't question that.

A long time ago I carried a Benchmade Leopard, which is a fairly large knife. I moved away from knife collecting and ended up carrying a Benchmade mini-grip for awhile. I decided it was just too small for what I do with a knife. When I started collecting knives again I bought larger knives and found that they work well for me. I do cut open envelopes and boxes, but I also slice apples, cut up meat and slice up boxes for the trash. It is a pain to do these things with a shorter blade. I was testing a 3" blade by cutting some boxes and found that while making long cuts the longer blade would come out of the cardboard before finishing the cut, my larger blades did not have that problem. I am reasonably discrete about using my knives but nobody in my office has said anything if I pull out a Military or ZT 0561 or Benchmade 581. The picture below is a little out of date but it has all of the knives that were in my EDC rotation not long ago. I bought a Ladybug but it was too small for me to do anything with. I bought a Delica and it was better but too small for any of my real work. My daughter took both of those. I bought a Dragonfly for carry as a second knife. It will do a few things but won't come close to doing what I normally want to do with it. Try slicing an apple with a short blade, or cutting up a piece of barbecue, or slicing up some large cardboard boxes. Besides the short blade, the other problem I have with small knives is that they come with small handles. I have fairly big hands and it is difficult for me to hold onto a small knife especially if I am trying to exert some force into it for cutting.

You're not wrong on anything. Just different strokes, it's a big world.

I've learned from reading these forums that people like knives of varied sizes and types. Not everything fits me, not everything fits some other people. I can express an opinion and relate my experiences, but can't speak for anyone else.

I'm in a similar situation myself. I have (and love) my endura. I really want a PM2 now. I have several good knives in my edc rotation and can't quite justify the purchase right now. However, my next folder will either be a PM2 or a manix 2.

Now you're in trouble because it can be hard to choose between these two, better just buy both. My opinion is that the PM2 being lighter and thinner makes it better for EDC, the Manix 2 feels more solid and makes a better work knife.

 

[coiledwire]

@needler420, why are you so salty? It seems like you want to put down everyone that owns a PM2 in this thread. For the record; I would open a bag of chips with a machete, drive a car capable of going 3x the speed limit, and would kill a fly with my shotgun if it wasn't illegal. Guess I'm just a spyderco/jalopnik/mossberg fanboy. A very happy fanboy.

@OP, I started with a tenacious, which lead to a dragonfly, then, BM940, pm2, etc, etc, etc. If I could do it over again, I'd only skip the tenacious. If you really want to try a pm2, get one off the exchange. If you don't like it as much as you expect, sell it back on the exchange and send it on to the next person.

 

[cardsone]

I used to own a pm2, sold it... But I currently own about 12 delicas, and even two manix's... I generally didn't like the pm2 the lock in my opinion is terrible, but I'm sure plenty of people will disagree with me on that

 

[trevitrace]

I carry one from time to time.

 

[TravisH]

I used to own a pm2, sold it... But I currently own about 12 delicas, and even two manix's...

Same here. But I kept the PM2 and only have 1 Manix.

 

[cchu518]

That's the other thing some folks have really big paws so a pm2 is like a delica to them! ☺

 

[Trailing Point]

Whether the PM2 is the first or the last knife you ever get, chances are its the one you are going to keep. Regarding the hype - where there is smoke there is fire. Just because it speaks to several thousand knife knuts already doesn't mean it can't speak to you. The DLC and digicam combo is dead sexy, as you've noticed. I say go for it, its just going to niggle at you until you do...

 

[hhmoore]

I've been obessing over a PM2 for a while now. I'm just getting started in this knife collecting business. Being leery that I might just be being impulsive, I think I should start off with a little less of a knife to get things started. What knife would you all direct me towards to get started for less and prepare me for a PM2 in the near future?

Go ahead - be impulsive (as long as you can afford it).
In all serious, I'm not sure why you feel you need "a little less of a knife to get things started" and to prepare you for a PM2? If it's a size concern, just get a smaller knife - no big deal. Unlike many in this subforum, it took me a few tries to like the PM2; but I saw enough positive features that I kept going back. Is it my favorite knife - no (sorry guys) - but I do appreciate, carry, and use it, now. If you're not used to carrying knives, or have only carried small knives, I suppose the perceived size of the PM2 could be daunting...but it is not obtrusive in the pocket, and quite light for its size.

The PM2 is overrated IMO for civilian use. Most people that praise it so highly don't even really use the knife as it was designed and intended for. They use it as a letter opener and pick their nails. IMO its not even a EDC or a pocket knife. Its size alone in my book is a work knife not something I'd EDC. The PM2 is something I'd carry when I had a intended use and purpose for. A good EDC to me is something that can be conveniently carried and perform universal tasks. Which is a delica.

An example would be the following post right after mine. The next user states he brings his PM2 to his office as a EDC.

How many people do you know work in a office setting that can actually justify a PM2? He needs a ladybug or a squeak. But wants to take the hype bandwagon.

I am going by what he said. He said he works in a office. I just don't see someone who says they work in a office setting needing a PM2 as a edc. Someone who tells me they work in the labor field I wouldn't question that.

You can use a machete to open a bag of potato chips. Just because you like machetes and potato chips doesn't justify what you use the knife for. Sure Its not my money and I'm not the one who has to live with it but I can give my opinion on it. PM2 is easily over hyped. People are buying that knife that don't even need it. They are buying it just because they come to some random forum and everyone is like yeah buy it buy it, its so good its the best knife ever made. You know what those people never even did? Ask him what he needs a knife for and the uses for the knife. Just praise it highly on pure hype. I call that bandwagon followers..

I mean no one buys a karambit to use as a utility knife.

I started to respond to you needler; but decided not to go in that direction. I'll keep it simple...
Who the hell are you to decide what any of us needs, or how those needs should guide our knife buying habits? You don't consider the PM2 an EDC or pocket knife? For nearly 2 years, I carried a ZT0200kw almost exclusively. I didn't buy it because of any fanboy forum following (does it even have one?); I didn't "NEED" it; and, arguably, it usually wasn't the best knife for most of the jobs it did. It's longer, and nearly twice as heavy as the PM2 - it fits fine in my pocket. I carry it because I like it; and because it is comfortable in my hand. No doubt you would have recommended against it - you are welcome to your opinion; and I can appreciate it until you start talking about my need for it. For most people that have more than 2 folding knives, need is no longer part of the equation - we purchase knives for other reasons...whether it is because we like something about it better, we want to try a variety of knives to see what works for us, or simply because we want another knife.

I'd like to highlight a couple sections of your posts, to see if you recognize the problem (just for giggles)

People are buying that knife that don't even need it

He needs a ladybug or a squeak

You know what those people never even did? Ask him what he needs a knife for and the uses for the knife.

 

[okto]

The PM2 is overrated IMO for civilian use.

Where have you ever seen a statement from Sal or Eric about the PM2 being designed for a specific task? It's good at anything a folding knife is good at, it's quick, it's light, and it's tough.

It sounds like what's really happening is you're upset that people like something you don't, which is some nonsense.

Just because I'm curious, who do you think DOES need a Paramillie?

 

[Seneca18]

The PM2 is overrated IMO for civilian use. Most people that praise it so highly don't even really use the knife as it was designed and intended for. They use it as a letter opener and pick their nails. IMO its not even a EDC or a pocket knife. Its size alone in my book is a work knife not something I'd EDC. The PM2 is something I'd carry when I had a intended use and purpose for. A good EDC to me is something that can be conveniently carried and perform universal tasks. Which is a delica.

Have you ever even touched, felt, used or otherwise even seen a PM2 in person?

 

[needler420]

.... double post.

 

[needler420]

Have you ever even touched, felt, used or otherwise even seen a PM2 in person?

I've seen it in person. I haven't held one or anything. I have no desire to. If someone would let me demo it I'd pass. I used to do construction framing for two years and wouldn't have carried a knife that size. It's size alone is a automatic pass for me.

I like the thread in the main knife discussion a plumber using his tenacious for the last five years.

Where have you ever seen a statement from Sal or Eric about the PM2 being designed for a specific task? It's good at anything a folding knife is good at, it's quick, it's light, and it's tough.

It sounds like what's really happening is you're upset that people like something you don't, which is some nonsense.

Just because I'm curious, who do you think DOES need a Paramillie?

Law enforcement and labor industry. I worked construction framing for two years and carried no knife. While a knife would have been a useful tool at times I really didn't need anything more then a delica or endura without being overkill.

I get why some people are scared of knives now though. It makes no sense for a guy working a cubicle corporate job in dress clothes to whip out a PM2 to open a letter on his desk. And then get mad when judged for it lol.

 

[Umi]

In MHO-
First off, be sure you have held the knife. Some features may sound good, but every hand is as different as every blade.
Second, dont buy it to collect. Use it. Dont be afraid of damaging your new knife (dont spend more than your comfortable losing, or destroying.)
You should get one suited to your tasks at hand.
PM2 is fine 1st EDC, if it feels right in your hand.

 

[panzeron]

What do you mean prepare yourself for a pm2? Get it and don't look back . It's really all the knife you'll ever need . I have recently been getting into higher end knives . But the pm2 still has a place in the stable . You'll never outgrow it . Whenever you see a thread like this . You see a ton of responses praising the pm2 . Some roll their eyes and say here we go again . But there's a reason for it . It is just that damn good and versatile. Some say the perfect edc . I can't argue with that . It's not my only knife . But one that will always have a place in my stable ... stop over thinking and get it .. the black dlc looks sweet on a pm2 .. it is very durable too ..

 

[hhmoore]

It makes no sense for a guy working a cubicle corporate job in dress clothes to whip out a PM2 to open a letter on his desk.

I agree with THAT statement.

 

[Riley12]

I used to have one and loved it, but sold it to find more expensive knife purchases. It's a good all around knife, whether hiking, or in the office, or doing whatever.

@needler420 I'd hate to see what you have to say about emersons or larger cold steels! Try not to tell people what they need. And, yes, I've carried a kerambit for utility before.

OP if you want one, go for it!