Well, I bent the Chiruwa Ak

The rule of thumb is:

beat the crap out of it BEFORE you need it for a task.

Only sweet spot is hardened, might have bent, but more likely to crack.

You're covered.


You did good.

Khuks are multi-function tools, not specialized slicers.

Enjoy the new one when you get it. In the mean-time, email Yangdu, in case she doesn't see this thread right away.

She'll probably tell you to keep the one you have and send a new one out right away.


Listen to the Ndn. He knows whereof he speaks.








Kis
enjoy every sandwich
 
jfox95307 said:
I got my chiruwa AK today. It had the crescent moon and Himalayan initials that I believe signifies Bura as the Kami. I took it out to the field and chopped a small tree and some 1" thick nut trees and it did fine. Then I decided to test it like so many of you guys suggest. I smacked it against a stump a couple times and it bent right at the bolster and cracked the bolster. I just smacked it sideways like I've read in some of the threads here. I don't think I even smacked it that hard. I guess I'm just an unlucky one.
I read through over two years of threads before making my decision to buy a Chiruwa AK and did not see one instance of one breaking or bending.
Oh well.....
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I'm backing Jfox95307 on this.
There is no way that should be called abuse and no way that blade should have failed. The AK is so thick even at the bolster that no human on Earth should be able to apply enough force to bend it. I have known Uncle Bill since the early 1990's and he told me to put it in a vice and try to bend it. Whack a tree with the flat of the blade as hard as I can over and over....it should never fail. You can't "abuse" an AK short of running a train over it or chooping the track itself. That is why it is famous.
Yangdu will back this up I'm sure.
 
bdws1975 said:
Well, that certainly convinces me that smacking a knife against a tree is not abuse.....:rolleyes:
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It's not abuse for an AK. It would be abuse for many other knives with much thinner blades. This is exactly what and AK is made for...to be nearly indestructable and slapping a tree with the flat with only human strength behind it is simply not abuse for a knife of this caliber.:rolleyes:
 
I don't get it. If you are worried about the blade failing while chopping wood, why not just chop the hell out of some oak? I'm not going to cry abuse here, but test it like it's going to be used.
 
bushman14 said:
I don't get it. If you are worried about the blade failing while chopping wood, why not just chop the hell out of some oak? I'm not going to cry abuse here, but test it like it's going to be used.
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Khukuries have had their flats used for many different things through the centuries. So in reality he was using it as intended.
 
SkagSig40 said:
It's not abuse for an AK. It would be abuse for many other knives with much thinner blades. This is exactly what and AK is made for...to be nearly indestructable and slapping a tree with the flat with only human strength behind it is simply not abuse for a knife of this caliber.:rolleyes:
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That's what surprised me. I'd like to know what caused the failure. Just isn't possible to bend a 3/8" thick piece of old leaf spring unless the steel is seriously flawed.
 
It's a failure in the heat treat. Improper heat treat can soften metal as well as overharden it. He followed the recommended testing procedure, and it's a good thing he did.

No way that should have happened. ALL of my kukris are Chiruwa-style, and I can brace them and hang my full weight off them (and I'm on the far side of 200 pounds) and they don't even bend. I've beat them all against hard wood on the blade, sides and spine, with NO problems.

Mistakes happen, Yangdu will make it right, and he needs to do the same thing with the new one he gets (might even get two by what the HI site says of the Chiruwa).
 
ilbruche said:
That's what surprised me. I'd like to know what caused the failure. Just isn't possible to bend a 3/8" thick piece of old leaf spring unless the steel is seriously flawed.
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Right! It must have been flawed, 3/8ths is just to thick for a human to bend by hand....to soft it sounds like. I have several Khuks I still need to test out. When testing these things make sure you wear HEAVY HEAVY gloves and good eye protection or a full face shield. If the blade fails it could come back at you with massive force.
 
I tested all four of my HI khukris this way, but I don't start out with full-force power blows. I start out with lighter blows and steadily increase the power.

I'm a big boy, and I can strike HARD. All my HI's passed the test with no problems.
 
yup, jfox, from another olde tymer, you did right. yangdu will take care of it when you let her know. the AK sounds like the heat treatment near the tang didn't go as planned & it was too soft. shame you won't get to chop stuff over the weekend...
 
No one was hurt. That's the best. It's a good thing it broke before you fell in love with the thing. Now you'll get a replacement that will be worth caring for.


munk
 
jfox95307, Good for you for reading the sticky threads and testing your blades as you should have. :) Email Yangdu and she will make it right. All of my Khukuris get testing in the same way. Every Chopper I have gets tested before it goes into the field with me regardless of brand. testing to see if a knife built to handle prying will is a good thing before going out. If you didn't it would be like buying a new pistol and not putting a few hundred rounds threw it before combat. I won't use an untested gun or an untested knife.

Please let us know when the 2 replacements show up and how much fun they are.

Heber
 
bdws1975 said:
I hate to be a jerk, but I think there really needs to be pics here. There should be some proof before everyone pats him on the back.

Not to say he's a liar, cause I doubt that's the case, but from what I hear this is almost unheard of.

I freely admit that I shouldn't have jumped on the guy. Sounds like he tested it correctly. However, the above still holds true.
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Methinks you Fail.

It is almost unheard of, but even the best quality control isn't perfect.
The fact that there is even such a guarantee is proof enough of the possibility that there could be failures. This kind of upfront honesty and the way Yangdu takes care of such things is why Himalayan imports is the only real choice when it comes to quality khuk's and real customer service.

It sounds to me as if jFox tested it just as Uncle Bill would have us all test them and i see no reason to cry abuse.
At the very worst,joe should send it back to Yangdu for close inspection of the failure and wait for his new AK's to arrive.

As usual ,We'll let Yangdu make her own decision on the matter.
 
nevermind....thanks
Karda said:
Methinks you Fail.

It is almost unheard of, but even the best quality control isn't perfect.
The fact that there is even such a guarantee is proof enough of the possibility that there could be failures. This kind of upfront honesty and the way Yangdu takes care of such things is why Himalayan imports is the only real choice when it comes to quality khuk's and real customer service.

It sounds to me as if jFox tested it just as uncle bill would have us all test them and i see no reason to cry abuse.
At the very worst,joe should send it back to Yangdu for close inspection of the failure and wait for his new AK's to arrive.

As usual We'll let Yangdu make her own decision on the matter
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bdws1975 said:
I Fail because i ask for proof?
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Not because you ask for proof,but the execution thereof

Jfox posted about the failure to nicely ask our advice on this matter.
He could've just emailed Yangdu directly.

At any rate...It's Yangdu's call.
 
Jfox did a fantastic job of pulling in older threads to support his claim. It is a shame I missed the tirad, it would have been more entertaining to read than "nevermind....thanks".

Jfox please let us know if the...
Heavy duty knife. If you can break it we'll send you two free. A good chopped and substitute prybar.
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... hold true.
 
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