What Are Some Good "Overbuilt" Knives?

Almost every fixed blade I make is overbuilt.
 
See, I'm also wondering if there tempering can make a big difference. If the blade was a regular or thick-ish size, but also TEMPERED for better solidity/toughness- that might be interesting. That way, a folder can be good for prying side-to-side & for a twist (like when the edges of the blade go up on one side & down on another). I've also seen where you can make an L with the folder (blade is the short part & handle is the long part) & pull down on the handle to use for prying & twisting.
 
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Realistically, a certain amount of prying is ok for almost any knife.
Check out vininull's UTube videos and the Busse destruction tests.

What I personally own that works:
Folders
Benchmade Contego
Spyderco Tuff
Buck CSAR-T Pro (YES!)
Extrema Ratio RAO
ZT 0560

Fixed
BK9
 
My 2 "overbuilt" folders are my Tanto SMF, and my Spyderco Tuff. I've got an 810 Contego that's beefy, but it doesn't -feel- overbuilt.
 
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The back knife here is 1/2" A8 Modified tool steel so it'd probably work as a pry bar too... :rolleyes:

Not that I would want to as it is a zero grind with a very small micro bevel so I'm not sure how it would hold up to that sort of work/abuse.

Now; it does pierce just fine with very little edge/tip deformation at all (hope the vid works!):

https://flic.kr/p/xguGDH




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I am enjoying my redencion 228. I haven't really put it to any hard use...yet, but it sure is a solid knife20150909_152514.jpg

Hey, everyone. Just wondering what's out there in the way of beefy knives. Like the kinds that can be used to pry open stuck doors/drawers/etc... . Am curious about both folders & fixed blade, but more about the folders. I think I already know some good overall models, but I figured I'd do some general research on what's available.
 
I am enjoying my redencion 228. I haven't really put it to any hard use...yet, but it sure is a solid knifeView attachment 582695

I think this is a point that many overlook; they feel that a knife is solid yet have not put it to the test.

They may be disillusioned in their thinking and surprised to see the knife fail when thumping on it a bit. Unless I have no choice my folders get put away and use a fixed blade for tougher tasks.

For example, those redencions have a very small lockup contact area; I'd be curious to see if the lock shifts over further when used for hard cutting. I could be way off base but it just seems smaller than it needs to be... YMMV/Your opinion may vary. :thumbup:;):D

Flame suit on. ;):rolleyes::foot:
 
I do not disagree, I will not be using this knife for extreme tasks. Like you said, that is a job for fixed blade. That being said, this knife is very solid, hefty and sure "feels" like it can handle some serious tasks. I intend to use it (especially for the price paid) and not baby it.
I think this is a point that many overlook; they feel that a knife is solid yet have not put it to the test.

They may be disillusioned in their thinking and surprised to see the knife fail when thumping on it a bit. Unless I have no choice my folders get put away and use a fixed blade for tougher tasks.

For example, those redencions have a very small lockup contact area; I'd be curious to see if the lock shifts over further when used for hard cutting. I could be way off base but it just seems smaller than it needs to be... YMMV/Your opinion may vary. :thumbup:;):D

Flame suit on. ;):rolleyes::foot:
 
I do not disagree, I will not be using this knife for extreme tasks. Like you said, that is a job for fixed blade. That being said, this knife is very solid, hefty and sure "feels" like it can handle some serious tasks. I intend to use it (especially for the price paid) and not baby it.

Thank you for your honesty and it would be great to get feedback (and pics!) once you've put some miles on that beast of a knife. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Too many nice blades out there go unused and unappreciated IMHO. ;)
 
"RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB"

If prying is a consideration for the duties of your knife, you should probably invest in an actual prybar. Boker, Gerber, Leatherman, and so on all have keychain sized ones. I have set from my lock pick supplier that work well.

If you must have a prybar/knife combo. TOPs, Kabar and a few others make knives for breaching. EOD supplies will also turn up some hits but you are looking for a steel breacher, not a non-metalic cutter
 
Knives work fine to pry with, right up until you hear that sickening *SNAP*!
 
By the way, my redencion 228 has about 50% lockup
I think this is a point that many overlook; they feel that a knife is solid yet have not put it to the test.

They may be disillusioned in their thinking and surprised to see the knife fail when thumping on it a bit. Unless I have no choice my folders get put away and use a fixed blade for tougher tasks.

For example, those redencions have a very small lockup contact area; I'd be curious to see if the lock shifts over further when used for hard cutting. I could be way off base but it just seems smaller than it needs to be... YMMV/Your opinion may vary. :thumbup:;):D

Flame suit on. ;):rolleyes::foot:
 
Just looking at the materials used and they way the knives are assembled I believe a person would be hard pressed to find a tougher folding knife than a Hinderer XM-18 / 24. ...at least for the same price or lower.
 
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The back knife here is 1/2" A8 Modified tool steel so it'd probably work as a pry bar too... :rolleyes:

Not that I would want to as it is a zero grind with a very small micro bevel so I'm not sure how it would hold up to that sort of work/abuse.

Now; it does pierce just fine with very little edge/tip deformation at all (hope the vid works!):

https://flic.kr/p/xguGDH




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Everytime I see that sword, I wanna go to your house and steal it !!! ;)
 
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