What are the advantages and disadvantages of ZDP-189?

Josh K said:
Looks like a pretty thick edge. "Edge like ax?"

That's cutting roots, I was talking about chopping.
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Oh... Sorry, I totally forget about you... You was talking about chopping ... and why should I be concerned?

So once again - ZDP-189 is best production steel on the market for now, holding edge almost as good as Dozier D2 and not brittle. But brittleness is usual cry for every new steel - same was with CPM S30V and many other before. After years of real use I can say that it is not brittle but rather tough.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
Oh... Sorry, I totally forget about you... You was talking about chopping ... and why should I be concerned?

So once again - ZDP-189 is best production steel on the market for now, holding edge almost as good as Dozier D2 and not brittle. But brittleness is usual cry for every new steel - same was with CPM S30V and many other before. After years of real use I can say that it is not brittle but rather tough.

Thanks, Vassili.
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It's not the best production steel. You can't say that because there is no one best steel.
 
nozh2002 said:
So once again - ZDP-189 is best production steel on the market for now, holding edge almost as good as Dozier D2 and not brittle. But brittleness is usual cry for every new steel - same was with CPM S30V and many other before. After years of real use I can say that it is not brittle but rather tough.

Thanks, Vassili.
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The ultimate toughness task is to shoot the ZDP-189 with your Glock. I want to see how many bullets the ZDP-189 Mule can cut through.
 
Josh K said:
It's not the best production steel. You can't say that because there is no one best steel.
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Sorry comrade - my bad I should ask you first what can and what can not I say. Are you leader of local communist party cell? May be on city level? Honestly, you do not look like your level is above city...

Wait a minute... We are in US aren't we... Sorry, I start feeling like I am back in USSR.

So let me say it once more (while I can) - ZDP-189 is best production steel on the market for now.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
cotdt said:
The ultimate toughness task is to shoot the ZDP-189 with your Glock. I want to see how many bullets the ZDP-189 Mule can cut through.
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OK. Am I understand you correctly?

You want to see how many bullets the ZDP-189 Mule can cut through. So I should shoot the ZDP-189 with my Glock.

Sorry, comrade, sir... I do not have Glock. It is just impossible for me to follow your orders. Can you think about something different?

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
Sorry comrade - my bad I should ask you first what can and what can not I say. Are you leader of local communist party cell? May be on city level? Honestly, you do not look like your level is above city...

Wait a minute... We are in US aren't we... Sorry, I start feeling like I am back in USSR.

So let me say it once more (while I can) - ZDP-189 is best production steel on the market for now.

Thanks, Vassili.
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What does a communist party cell have to do with knives? :confused:

Unless they serve some really good drinks. I mean, I have no idea what kind of parties they throw in a cell. Can you clue us in?

Let me say again, there is no "best" or "magic" steel. S7 is insanely tough, ZDP is crazy sharp. H1 won't rust. You can't just say that one is the best.
 
Josh K said:
What does a communist party cell have to do with knives? :confused:

Unless they serve some really good drinks. I mean, I have no idea what kind of parties they throw in a cell. Can you clue us in?

Let me say again, there is no "best" or "magic" steel. S7 is insanely tough, ZDP is crazy sharp. H1 won't rust. You can't just say that one is the best.
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Watch me - ZDP-189 is best production steel on the market for now, holding edge almost as good as Dozier D2 and not brittle

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
Watch me - ZDP-189 is best production steel on the market for now, holding edge almost as good as Dozier D2 and not brittle

Thanks, Vassili.
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Vassili, I mean say it. You haven't said it. Sure you've typed it, but that ain't saying it.

Post a YouTube video, but for now I stand by my conclusion that you cannot say "ZDP-189 is the best production steel on the market."
 
hwpaintballer said:
How do you rate SG2?
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Takefu steel was biggest disappointment. Both SGPS knives from Falkniven and from Kershaw show very poor results on manila rope cutting test - 23rd and 26th places in 27 steel tested. It was well presented on paper - it has similar to CPM S30V compositio, also powder metallurgy steel, plus it has like 62-64HRC. But in real cutting tests results was really disappointing.

Again it does not look like bad sample, becuse same steel from Tekefu but from different knife manufacurers show same poor results.

Now I am thinking to buy JYDII with composite blade and put it into Titanium frame - so titanium handle will not be wasted.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
ZDP-189 is not the best production steel on the market.....but it is very good.

My EDC is an Endura ZDP and I really like it.

It does hold an edge well and isn't what I'd consider hard to sharpen.....as some people may say.

However when I first got it, I did put a very tiny chip on the blade edge removing a thumb tack out of drywall. So yes....it is brittle.

I don't think S30V, S90V, M4, A2, D2, SR-77, SR-101, or INFI would have chipped under these circumstances. Just my opinion......correct me if I'm wrong.

No worries..........the small chip in the blade was finally shapened out a few months ago.
 
Dozier doesn't make the steel in their blades, so the D2 they buy is obviously the best steel on the market.
 
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hwpaintballer said:
Ouch, no love for SG2. IMO it along with the design of the JYDII makes for a great slicer.
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Yes, Knife is excellent, I am big fan of Tim Gallean and hollow ground blde make it perfect slicer. But steel does not hold edge too much. I am not really sure what hardness it is really.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
Yes, Knife is excellent, I am big fan of Tim Gallean and hollow ground blde make it perfect slicer. But steel does not hold edge too much. I am not really sure what hardness it is really.

Thanks, Vassili.
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Edge retention is top notch on the two I have.
 
I don't recall ever needing to touch up the edges on them, but twice a month I usually sharpen the one that sees the most pocket time.
 
hwpaintballer said:
I don't recall ever needing to touch up the edges on them, but twice a month I usually sharpen the one that sees the most pocket time.
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I sharpened it to hair whittling sharpness and then did cutting 1/2" manila rope for 200 times measuring sharpness at certain steps. I am sure that for casual use - edcing difference will not be very seen, until you do a lot of cutting which require high sharpness - like leather work, cutting 100 page sketch book in half, things like this. Here ZDP-189 show what it is capable of.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
hwpaintballer said:
I don't recall ever needing to touch up the edges on them, but twice a month I usually sharpen the one that sees the most pocket time.
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You know they say if you don't watch your knives at all times they get dull on you. No one knows why, it is assumed to have to do with steel fairies or some such.
 
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