What Chinese stuff is okay?

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K.O.D. said:
While I agree that people do complain about chipping and rolling, sometimes I feel like this is less about the hardness and more about a burned edge.
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Indeed. No matter the company, don't judge a production knife by its factory edge. That's why the testing I mentioned earlier usually starts at like the fourth edge and runs a verification edge. Aside from trying to standardize edge angle (KME) and finishing grit for comparison, it helps to minimize the deleterious effects of factory grinding. Another thing that could be its own show is tracking how edge retention improves from the factory edge, how deep that effect can run, and how that curve can stretch.

If I recall correctly, there was a Benchmade that was continuing to improve after the tenth edge!
 
Alberta Ed said:
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Upgrade your membership so you can put this talk where it belongs: the political forum. Then maybe we could have a meaningful conversation about it.
 
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Blade Lab said:
I just bought an awesome Ukrainian knife.
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BPS? I bought one recently, and while it is a simple, 1066 carbon steel knife, for $35 it's amazing. Nice leather sheath, came with a great edge, real wood handle scales, and it's pretty thin to boot.

As for Chinese, I really enjoy my civivis and one we (Subjugator). Adore my civivi Conspirator and Voltaic. The Baklash was my first one and it never disappoints. Incite is a great knife, hate they discontinued it. Civivu/We makes some of the best knives around, with great cutting geometry and great fit and finish.

Reate is awesome, although I only have one (an SBD Typhoon Evo). Great knife, amazing fit and finish and machining. Just don't use it much.

As for the politics, I won't go into that because this isn't the forum for it. But I find it funny when people bash China, yet gush about Russia. Lol
 
LOL everything comes from China now. The quality, fit, finish, consistency often far surpassing anything American made. Just the facts. I don’t like it either, but thems the facts. All that at a lower price. Style? That’s another issue altogether.
 
KVT said:
LOL everything comes from China now. The quality, fit, finish, consistency often far surpassing anything American made. Just the facts. I don’t like it either, but thems the facts. All that at a lower price. Style? That’s another issue altogether.
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Yeah, China excels at manufacturing. Design ... not so much. The sweet spot is American custom makers having their designs mass-produced in China.
 
Blade Lab said:
Yeah, China excels at manufacturing. Design ... not so much. The sweet spot is American custom makers having their designs mass-produced in China.
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I think that has tended to be true, though Azo at Kizer has produced a bunch of really solid designs in house. And TwoSun … at least original. I’d also say that’s not super different from what Boker does.
 
I like Steel Will knives. Exceptional value, good design, excellent execution and real D2 ;)
 
China no es bueno.

Anyone expecting ethical business practices or long term support for the several hundred dollar knives coming out of China are likely in for a rude awakening.
 
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badmatt said:
Why does nearly every thread have to go down the political road...

*facepalm*
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Ethical business practices as in materials are what they say they are, produced in a quality manner, and have good after sale support.
 
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Nebuchadnezzar said:
Ethical business practices as in materials are what they say they are, produced in a quality manner, and have good after sale support.
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WE post-sales support has been stellar the 2 times I’ve had to use it. Quit making blanket statements.
I’ve had some of the worst CS come out of a very popular US made knife maker.
 
KVT said:
Nonsense. Sounds like Boomer talk.
WE post-sales support has been stellar the 2 times I’ve had to use it. Quit making blanket statements.
I’ve had some of the worst CS come out of a very popular US made knife maker.
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The Chinese are known, if not notorious, for substituting materials with those of lesser quality. AD hominem, nice way to establish you ability to converse politely.
WE is popular for a reason, but a snake is still a snake, don't be surprised when you are bitten.
Not germane to the conversation.

China has no shame ripping people and companies off, seems to be a cultural thing, until that changes buyer beware. For my dollar I'm unwilling to support such unethical practices.
 
KVT said:
LOL everything comes from China now. The quality, fit, finish, consistency often far surpassing anything American made. Just the facts. I don’t like it either, but thems the facts. All that at a lower price. Style? That’s another issue altogether.
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Manufacturers in some segments are leaving China because of slave labor and the dangers of allowing an enemy to own a large chunk of your supply chain. Look at Samsung. They are leaving China and building in Texas.

The Chinese are making some pretty nice stuff now but they are not surpassing the US. This is like the people that buy Turkish shotguns and tell me they are as good as my Beretta 686.
 
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