What did you rehang today?

[Siskiyou Woodsman]

Great work siski, definitely came out a lot better than I could do, I probably would have just made wedges like you said. Where did you get the pickaroon head?

Thanks!

Re-hafted an axe for a friend and he gave it to me as a thank you. He's 70 and got it from his dad so it's been around for a while. Keep looking you'll find one. You could also cut one out of an otherwise unusable DB if you are careful and watch your temperature. If I were going that route, I would use a cut off wheel and take my time especially near the pick end. It does keep you more upright around the wood pile that's for sure!

 

[Jlemay18]

Great work siski, definitely came out a lot better than I could do, I probably would have just made wedges like you said. Where did you get the pickaroon head?

Thanks!

Re-halted an axe for a friend and he gave it to me as a thank you. He's 70 and got it from his dad so it's been around for a while. Keep looking you'll find one. You could also cut one out of an otherwise unusable DB if you are careful and watch your temperature. If I were going that route, I would use a cut off wheel and take my time especially near the pick end. It does keep you more upright around the wood pile that's for sure!

That's not a bad idea, I don't have much experience with that kinda stuff but gotta start somewhere. I'll keep a lookout for a junk double. And yeah it definitely is nice to have, kinda sucks I don't have one now but I can deal with it, figured my grandpa needed it more than me since he's 85 and I'm 25 lol. I'll survive till I find another decent one

 

[Curt Hal]

I have often thought of doing this. Thanks for your example of how to do it so well.

 

[rjdankert]

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As best as I can tell you did a great job of fitting those pieces. Not an easy task.

FWIW, you might get some extra strength by inserting one or more cross pieces (dowel, bolt, whatever, . . .)

Bob

 

[RICKOFF]

Bob, thats an excellent idea also until I read about the brass screws in the head I was thinking dowel.
What are your thoughts on cutting down and old pick axe to a pickaroon?

Rick

 

[Siskiyou Woodsman]

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As best as I can tell you did a great job of fitting those pieces. Not an easy task.

FWIW, you might get some extra strength by inserting one or more cross pieces (dowel, bolt, whatever, . . .)

Thanks Bob, certainly worth considering. Don't know how well it shows in the photos, but that's a very thin profile handle the way they used to make them so I'm a little nervous about drilling a hole through it. Think I'll keep a eye on it and being a pickaroon, I'd doesn't get near the stress that an axe would. Photos to follow if it self destructs.

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[serotina]

As best as I can tell you did a great job of fitting those pieces. Not an easy task.

FWIW, you might get some extra strength by inserting one or more cross pieces (dowel, bolt, whatever, . . .)

Thanks Bob, certainly worth considering. Don't know how well it shows in the photos, but that's a very thin profile handle the way they used to make them so I'm a little nervous about drilling a hole through it. Think I'll keep a eye on it and being a pickaroon, I'd doesn't get near the stress that an axe would. Photos to follow if it self destructs.

Yeah, this is the kind of case where a pin or dowel reduces the strength rather than adding to it. As you say, being a pickaroon, it might be fine anyway.

If you are at all worried about it, I would suggest wrapping it tightly with wire or twine (if twine follow up with a coat or two of varnish). I wouldn't worry a bit about it if it were not for that endgrain splice - joining long grain is generally as strong as the wood if you do it right, endgrain is another matter.

 

[Siskiyou Woodsman]

Yeah, this is the kind of case where a pin or dowel reduces the strength rather than adding to it. As you say, being a pickaroon, it might be fine anyway.

If you are at all worried about it, I would suggest wrapping it tightly with wire or twine (if twine follow up with a coat or two of varnish). I wouldn't worry a bit about it if it were not for that endgrain splice - joining long grain is generally as strong as the wood if you do it right, endgrain is another matter.

-serotina,

Thanks! Ya know I've wrapped a lot of handles with paracord for various reasons. Think I will use this for awhile and if all is well, I'll do the paracord thing followed with varnish. Thank you!, that's a great idea!

 

[Twindog]

Yeah, this is the kind of case where a pin or dowel reduces the strength rather than adding to it. As you say, being a pickaroon, it might be fine anyway.

What makes you think it would weaken the connection? I don't actually know, but I've always thought that a dowel glued through runout would add strength. The glued in dowel would add strength perpendicular to the normal force vectors.

 

[rjdankert]

. . . until I read about the brass screws in the head I was thinking dowel. . .

Rick, AFAIK, those usually used roll pins.

Sorry, I'm going to dodge the cut down pick question. But I'm all for people using their head and hands to make their own stuff.:thumbup::thumbup:

Bob

 

[serotina]

What makes you think it would weaken the connection? I don't actually know, but I've always thought that a dowel glued through runout would add strength. The glued in dowel would add strength perpendicular to the normal force vectors.

The wood is strongest parallel to the fibers that its made of - drilling a hole across for the pin cuts those fibers, and given that the bulk of that hole is exposing endgrain the glue joint is likely to be weaker than the wood.

If the handle is already coming apart parallel to the grain, a dowel might add a bit of strength, delaying the inevitable failure, but going across a soundly glued edge joint I would expect it to weaken the handle.

BUT, I've never had a tool like this with a pin in the wood - I'm just going on experience from other fields - cabinetmaking and gunstocks.

 

[Jlemay18]

Bob, thats an excellent idea also until I read about the brass screws in the head I was thinking dowel.
What are your thoughts on cutting down and old pick axe to a pickaroon?

Rick

Take my word with a grain of salt as I'm not experienced in this kind of stuff but sounds like it would work, you may even be able to make a one of a kind double pickaroon out of it. Not sure if it would function well using both but it'd be unique and look cool, plus would be a good use for a broken pick axe.

 

[quinton]

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[quinton]

The wood is strongest parallel to the fibers that its made of - drilling a hole across for the pin cuts those fibers, and given that the bulk of that hole is exposing endgrain the glue joint is likely to be weaker than the wood.

If the handle is already coming apart parallel to the grain, a dowel might add a bit of strength, delaying the inevitable failure, but going across a soundly glued edge joint I would expect it to weaken the handle.

BUT, I've never had a tool like this with a pin in the wood - I'm just going on experience from other fields - cabinetmaking and gunstocks.

I agree.

 

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[jblyttle]

This is a 1lb Super Banko head that I got off of eBay for $14 shipped hung on a new handle that cost me $2. It has been hand sharpened to hair shaving sharp and has been treated with boiled linseed oil. Total weight is 27.5oz and it is 13.5" long.

 

[Jlemay18]

Hacked that Plumb pattern is awesome, idk why but I love them. I picked up a Boys Scouts version of that head at the local flea market last week for cheap, they look great.

 

[Hacked]

Hacked that Plumb pattern is awesome, idk why but I love them. I picked up a Boys Scouts version of that head at the local flea market last week for cheap, they look great.

JLemay18, my dad has had one for years, the Plumb National BSA camp hatchet was the first axe of any kind I ever used. Because of that I have a soft spot for them. To be honest though I don't think it will become a favorite user. Compared to my TrueTemper axes of similar size I don't see this one being able to keep up. Still a very fun project and I'm fairly happy with how it came out.

 

[SC T100]

JLemay18, my dad has had one for years, the Plumb National BSA camp hatchet was the first axe of any kind I ever used. Because of that I have a soft spot for them. To be honest though I don't think it will become a favorite user. Compared to my TrueTemper axes of similar size I don't see this one being able to keep up. Still a very fun project and I'm fairly happy with how it came out.

That might be because it appears to have a thick bit profile. It might benefit from a good thinning. It looks like it has a splitting profile currently.

 

[Hacked]

That might be because it appears to have a thick bit profile. It might benefit from a good thinning. It looks like it has a splitting profile currently.

I agree it needs some more thinning, though it's not as bad as the picture makes it appear. I leave the toes on my axes somewhat blunt in an attempt to keep them from wearing quickly. Once I get my hands on a decent file I will work the edge back and see how much I can thin it out. The file I just picked up is completely worthless, too dull to cut right out of the box

Still the bit is thick compared to the TrueTemper I referred to, it's second from the right in this picture.