Remy if by insults you were referring to the terms tightwads and hamfisted, i would have thought that my intentions more clear than that. I want nothing but progress for myself, those around me, those i interact with, and those i don't. i have nothing to lose and everything to gain if i spend my life mending humanity back with itself. Sometimes in my short span of life i run across pockets of people who are so stringent, so set in there ways that i am perceived as a dangerous outsider here to disrupt or spoil what they have hard fought won. that is not my intention as a member here nor in this thread, thanks for the responses and good day all.
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What do you do when someone asks to borrow your knife?
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Yup. Case by case basis.
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If someone asks to borrow my knife, I reply with what do you need it for?? , and they will either tell me or show me what they need cut, and I will go cut it for them, If its for prying or as a screwdriver I tell them no. As a general rule, and for having had several knives broken by idiotic people , I do not let anyone use my knives, I rarely let anyone even touch them for fear they will do something stupid with them. I had a guy about 2 years ago eyeballing my little FRN native and he asked to see it , and I said O.k., Will idiot looks at it and takes off, I'm on the line at my job so I cant go after him, but I can see him about 40 ft down the line from me using the twisting and popping method for removing zipties, after he torques the zipties off, he uses the little native to pry industrial staples out of some boxes, then he brings me the knife back, Which I had just mirror polished the edge FWIW, and It had some nice chips in it , I told him he owed me 50 bucks. He replied for what? I said you ruined my knife and pointed at the chips, well he liked the knife, and said he was gonna try to buy it off me anyway , so he bought it, and after he paid me, He asked me if I would take it home and resharpen it , Which I did...poor little native haven't seen it in years and no telling what kinda life she's living now....
Last point, huxley was making a remark about human beings destroying human instinct with our incessant chase towards master-hood of our environment and ourselves. Modern times are not a real, tangible force, its not like modern times mean anything to a great white, or an alligator, or an ant ^^
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Man, that sure is a lot of posts on "what do you do if someone asks to borrow your knife", LOL are you Nutnfancy J/K-that means just kidding as in a joke, Do not take it personal, just having a little fun
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This thread has been a huge help.
Next time someone asks to borrow my knife, I'll start talking about "Modern times", "Human instinct", "Teaching a man to fish"...and they'll get really bored and go somewhere else.
Problem solved!
Thank you internet. :thumbup:
Next time someone asks to borrow my knife, I'll start talking about "Modern times", "Human instinct", "Teaching a man to fish"...and they'll get really bored and go somewhere else.
Problem solved!
Thank you internet. :thumbup:
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This thread has been a huge help.
Next time someone asks to borrow my knife, I'll start talking about "Modern times", "Human instinct", "Teaching a man to fish"...and they'll get really bored and go somewhere else.
Problem solved!
Thank you internet. :thumbup:
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You're heartless, man. Poor knife.
I say, "Huh?"
Seriously it's the classic example that bad things follow when you give someone a tool who doesn't have one. They don't value it and they don't understand it. Do you really think you can tell what may happen?
The last time I attempted to give a man a fish it was a Machete and he came running back asking for help after cutting through his thumbnail lengthwise barely missing the bone with a pretty dull edge. I considered myself well educated while trying to calculate my liability in the situation.
ps. Huxley was a very brilliant mind who also happened to take a lot of acid in the 60's
Seriously it's the classic example that bad things follow when you give someone a tool who doesn't have one. They don't value it and they don't understand it. Do you really think you can tell what may happen?
The last time I attempted to give a man a fish it was a Machete and he came running back asking for help after cutting through his thumbnail lengthwise barely missing the bone with a pretty dull edge. I considered myself well educated while trying to calculate my liability in the situation.
ps. Huxley was a very brilliant mind who also happened to take a lot of acid in the 60's
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I know what Nancy Reagan would say!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D2nq8DzYToE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=D2nq8DzYToE
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D2nq8DzYToE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=D2nq8DzYToE
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You have my condolences.
Hours later I feel a lingering sentiment. Thank you blade forums for hosting this discussion. Perhaps number 47374957 to you but number 1 for me. You let me out for a bit and that hasn't happened in awhile. Thanks.
No I am not nutnfancy. Lol.
But seriously this is gonna serve you well while your purposefully stranding yourself in the rockies to see if you can make it with only a dozen or so hand picked knives and all the best gear. I say buy this knife. And for the tjwp-ers out there you can get this knife of my site for 10% off. Now here's some more completely objective criticism lol.
No I am not nutnfancy. Lol.
But seriously this is gonna serve you well while your purposefully stranding yourself in the rockies to see if you can make it with only a dozen or so hand picked knives and all the best gear. I say buy this knife. And for the tjwp-ers out there you can get this knife of my site for 10% off. Now here's some more completely objective criticism lol.
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I generally let them - it's a good way to make sales
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Same here.
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I used to carry an extra "loaner". After multiple screwed up knives and a few that just grew legs, I quit "loaning" any knife to anyone. 1 exception - life-threatening situation. That's it.
I ask "What do you need cut?" and cut it myself, if I have deemed them worthy of being the recipient of the advantage of me carrying a knife.
Kinda callous, right? Nope. They are wanting to borrow something from me. They want to take advantage of me being prepared. If someone wanted to borrow your car, your motorcycle, chain saw, you rifle or your handgun or any other item that has the POTENTIAL to cause injury or death if misused, you'd either say NO or ask a bunch of questions before letting them use the item. A knife falls into the same category.
Who will I cut something for?? My recent examples are a little old lady in the post office having trouble with the packing tape, the mother trying to corral 3 kids and a string gets entangled in her stroller wheel, the WW2 vet who asks if I have a knife to cut something for him, because all cowboys have knives ( I was wearing one of my hats and bolo ties like I generally do) and he no longer carries a knife because his arthritic fingers can't safely use one any more.
Who won't I cut something for? Healthy, able bodied, unencumbered folks who don't even own one. After I find out what they need to cut, I ask them "Where's your knife?" Their answer usually makes it real clear as to their attitude towards carrying knives.
Now why have I developed this attitude? A couple of reasons. First reason is, in this day and age, if I loan a knife to someone and they screw up somehow - either screw some thing up, injure themselves or someone else, I could be found liable. Is this right? No. They did the deed, whatever it was. But with the laws and lawyer attitudes, I "enabled the deed to occur". I choose not to put myself at risk of having my physical and/or financial freedom hosed by some idiot and then having to be at the mercy or 6-12 "peers", many of whom don't even know how to spell "Knife" much less responsibly own one.
People have lost the attitude of proper, responsible behavior and have developed the sense that it is all about them. Lawyers chasing the big bucks and encouraging people to "sue, to get what someone else owes you." or some DA looking for an easy kill. The bleeding hearts who think that everything should be equal and safe for everyone, even if they have to dumb things down and ban anything that evens smells of being dangerous if used improperly by some deranged individual.
The second reason is that I have decided that (my opinion, no one else's) - If they are too damn stupid/fearful/idiotic/out of touch with reality to understand that a knife is a tool to be carried and used and don't own one themselves but will try to borrow someone else's, then I'm not gonna help them out of their non-life threatening situation that they put themselves into by listening to the BS about a knife being a weapon.
Enough soap box.
I ask "What do you need cut?" and cut it myself, if I have deemed them worthy of being the recipient of the advantage of me carrying a knife.
Kinda callous, right? Nope. They are wanting to borrow something from me. They want to take advantage of me being prepared. If someone wanted to borrow your car, your motorcycle, chain saw, you rifle or your handgun or any other item that has the POTENTIAL to cause injury or death if misused, you'd either say NO or ask a bunch of questions before letting them use the item. A knife falls into the same category.
Who will I cut something for?? My recent examples are a little old lady in the post office having trouble with the packing tape, the mother trying to corral 3 kids and a string gets entangled in her stroller wheel, the WW2 vet who asks if I have a knife to cut something for him, because all cowboys have knives ( I was wearing one of my hats and bolo ties like I generally do) and he no longer carries a knife because his arthritic fingers can't safely use one any more.
Who won't I cut something for? Healthy, able bodied, unencumbered folks who don't even own one. After I find out what they need to cut, I ask them "Where's your knife?" Their answer usually makes it real clear as to their attitude towards carrying knives.
Now why have I developed this attitude? A couple of reasons. First reason is, in this day and age, if I loan a knife to someone and they screw up somehow - either screw some thing up, injure themselves or someone else, I could be found liable. Is this right? No. They did the deed, whatever it was. But with the laws and lawyer attitudes, I "enabled the deed to occur". I choose not to put myself at risk of having my physical and/or financial freedom hosed by some idiot and then having to be at the mercy or 6-12 "peers", many of whom don't even know how to spell "Knife" much less responsibly own one.
People have lost the attitude of proper, responsible behavior and have developed the sense that it is all about them. Lawyers chasing the big bucks and encouraging people to "sue, to get what someone else owes you." or some DA looking for an easy kill. The bleeding hearts who think that everything should be equal and safe for everyone, even if they have to dumb things down and ban anything that evens smells of being dangerous if used improperly by some deranged individual.
The second reason is that I have decided that (my opinion, no one else's) - If they are too damn stupid/fearful/idiotic/out of touch with reality to understand that a knife is a tool to be carried and used and don't own one themselves but will try to borrow someone else's, then I'm not gonna help them out of their non-life threatening situation that they put themselves into by listening to the BS about a knife being a weapon.
Enough soap box.