What flippers have the same or better smooth easy action that a MSRB Shirogorov has?

evilgreg said:
Okay, I'll bite. Why?
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Simple answer.... what's being offered as answers make my sake my head and wonder if half these people actually own or have at least handled a real Shiro... it's an example of why I sometimes dislike this forum
 
rexbo said:
Simple answer.... what's being offered as answers make my sake my head and wonder if half these people actually own or have at least handled a real Shiro... it's an example of why I sometimes dislike this forum
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I had a 95 and a Hati and wasn't amazified--did I miss something?
 
Maybe our examples of the knives we quoted flipped exceptionally well? To be honest no I have never used a Shiro so I just offered up some of the best flipping actions I know of.
 
my new guardian tactical helix nano flips really smooth and closes under its own blade weight smoothly also.
 
Lapedog said:
Maybe our examples of the knives we quoted flipped exceptionally well? To be honest no I have never used a Shiro so I just offered up some of the best flipping actions I know of.
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I mean no disrespect to ANYONE here, or anyone offering their viewpoint in this particular thread, but the OP ask what is in DIRECT comparison to a particular Shiro.. NOT "good flippers in general".... So, context matters and that's my point
 
rexbo said:
I mean no disrespect to ANYONE here, or anyone offering their viewpoint in this particular thread, but the OP ask what is in DIRECT comparison to a particular Shiro.. NOT "good flippers in general".... So, context matters and that's my point
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I've flipped a Neon, and other Shirogorovs and they flip just like other flippers I own or have owned (e.g. CRKT IKBS flippers that flipped as well and whose blades glided effortlessly as if by magic or perhaps tiny ball bearings)--I thought I mentioned that part in my response, sorry. Not to say that those knives have similar fit and finish, or value, just that in my experience they flipped and flopped similarly.
 
evilgreg said:
I've flipped a Neon, and other Shirogorovs and they flip just like other flippers I own or have owned (e.g. CRKT IKBS flippers that flipped as well and whose blades glided effortlessly as if by magic or perhaps tiny ball bearings)--I thought I mentioned that part in my response, sorry. Not to say that those knives have similar fit and finish, or value, just that in my experience they flipped and flopped similarly.
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fair enough... but, the thread still makes me shake my head

Let's get "real" here... I can loosen the pivot on a $10 knife from walmart and have "the smoothest flipper ever"..... I mean after all a $7.00 Sanrenmu 7071 is basically the same thing as a Chris Reeves Sebenaza right?
 
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Nfd538 said:
Do you have a knife to compare with the OP's Shiro question?
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The best comparision I have to the Neon would be the Rask..... Others that "rank" are of course my other shiro models, my Thorburns, and perhaps my dialed in Hinderer XM18 and Curtis F3
 
I've owned 3 Hati's and one F3 on bearings. The F3 was on SRBBs and flipped flawlessly. The Hati's were on washers and a little more finicky. It seemed to depend on the steel and the finish. My Elmax and S90V Hati's were not the snappiest flippers unless I gave them a little oil. However, I had one in Vanax35 and that one flipped like it was on bearings. Something to do with the surface of that particular steel that made it very slippery.

Recently, I picked up a Boker Burnley Kihon. So far, count me as impressed. IMO, it flips as nice as the Vanax35 Hati. Very smooth and very fast.
 
rexbo said:
The best comparision I have to the Neon would be the Rask..... Others that "rank" are of course my other shiro models, my Thorburns, and perhaps my dialed in Hinderer XM18 and Curtis F3
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I'd like to try a Thornburn the L51. I've had quite a few XM18's some smoother then others but no matter how dialed in they where they couldn't compare with a Neon. I'm talking about smoothness of the action only.
 
I don't really have anything which has that same light yet quick and glass smooth flipping action of my neon. My thorburn is equally smooth but much heavier in detent so it doesn't have that shiro feeling.
 
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Maybe I should qualify better what I mean by "action". When I got the neon ultra lite, new out of the box, it was the smoothest knife that I ever had. Flipping open took very little effort and a few light movements of the knife, once past the detent, the blade slowly falls close. So I do what I do with all my knives.... I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, re oiled with nano oil, then found the sweet spot of tension on the pin where blade slop stops and the blade is relatively centered. I then cycle the blade about a hundred times. Sometimes I polish the surfaces in contact with the bearings. It helps every knife.

After do this that is when the Neon entered the WOW category. Flipping took very little effort compared ro my other flippers. And once past the detent the blade floats down powered by gravity. No movement of knife necessary. I have my ZT 0450's that are clost to this but still require some knife movement to complete the close.

I am intrigued by the suggestions and will try some of them out.
 
rexbo said:
Simple answer.... what's being offered as answers make my sake my head and wonder if half these people actually own or have at least handled a real Shiro... it's an example of why I sometimes dislike this forum
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I've owned more Shiro's than you can shake a stick at and I stand by my post.
The Maxace Cicada DOES run on MRBS, so keep saking your head.
 
sechip said:
I've owned more Shiro's than you can shake a stick at and I stand by my post.
The Maxace Cicada DOES run on MRBS, so keep saking your head.
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My comments were "general" not directed at you necessarily....
 
sechip said:
I've owned more Shiro's than you can shake a stick at and I stand by my post.
The Maxace Cicada DOES run on MRBS, so keep saking your head.
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Beware the wrath of some knife snobs if you suggest that a free-swinging, closes under it's own weight action is possible outside of the magical land of Shiros and Thorburns and whatnot. As if there is some magic beyond . . . ball bearings. How is the action on that Cicada (which as you pointed out runs on multi-row bearings)? I've seen fabulous action on Chinese knives from companies like Reate and CKF, so I'm already a believer that you can get a fantastically smooth running knife without breaking the bank.
 
evilgreg said:
I've seen fabulous action on Chinese knives from companies like Reate and CKF, so I'm already a believer that you can get a fantastically smooth running knife without breaking the bank.
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Yup, the CFK Sukhoi and T90 I had where really smooth. The mini Bodega is a slick little one too.
 
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