What happened??

My dad, on the subject on construction/fabrication? No, but who is this guy, what reason is there to support him? There isn't enough info to side with grandpa, mom, or dad. Everyone is taking up sides, and they could have bodies in the basement.
 
My dad, on the subject on construction/fabrication? No, but who is this guy, what reason is there to support him? There isn't enough info to side with grandpa, mom, or dad. Everyone is taking up sides, and they could have bodies in the basement.
While it's true that we don't know enough about the family to really make a definitive judgement, I still support the notion that the father of the household has the final word on just about everything that concerns his children, so long as he's not abusing them.
Ultimately, he's the provider and the protector and the authority figure of the family....at least he should be.

And yes, for the ladies of the forum, I am a male chauvinist pig. :p
 
While it's true that we don't know enough about the family to really make a definitive judgement, I still support the notion that the father of the household has the final word on just about everything that concerns his children, so long as he's not abusing them.
Ultimately, he's the provider and the protector and the authority figure of the family....at least he should be.

Nicely said.

Couldn't agree more. At the very least the woman of the house should be a respectful co-parent.

My SO doesn't get to push me around... period. NEVER has, never will. The best part is, she never tries. It's a game called mutual respect.

Robert
 
In the end it's up to the parents so Granddad should maybe keep the knife at his house and let Jr. use it under his supervision when he gets to visit.
 
This is terrible news.

First, the kid was given knives by fellow classmates, and the kid actually brought them home....this shows that the kid has zero respect for his own father.
And then the mother rewards the kid's disrespect by verbally castrating the dad.

The dad should have taken the knives from his son and then punished his son for disobeying his father's wishes.
And he should tell his wife not to over-ride his decisions again.

Alot of you guys have talked about how weak men are in today's society, yet some of you didn't mind that the man of the house was totally disrespected by his wife and kid.
Whether you agree with the dad or not, his decision should have been final.
Actually by throwing a hissyfit the father verbally castrated himself.

I don't see men and women in situations like this. Only normal people and idiots. Who cares what gender a person is as long as they're reacting like a dumbass.

The man was obvioulsy raised like a sissy and his wife wasn't. The fact that he was so easily overrided only confirms that fact.

His reactions were nothing but emotional, nothing rational about that. If I react like that I don't expect my son to respect me, hell I expect him to NOT respect behaviour like that.

Respect comes to those who act like well thinking beings, no matter the position they're in. If the man hadn't acted like world war 3 had just started over something as simple as a pocketknife nothing wrong would've happened. Instead he threw a fit. And you support the man throwing a fit.

I said it earlier and I'll say it again, the man doesn't understand kids and should not be applauded or supported in his ignorance. His wife obviously seeing how important this was to her son seems to understand the kid a lot better than her husband.

If I do something dumb like that I hope my wife steps in place to help me understand my children better and remind me to think before I react.

Think TWICE, cut (act/react) once.
 
It's simple really. It's easier to not allow knives than it is to teach proper responsibility.

The constant need to protect people from EVERYTHING has left an entire generation weak and naive.


Couldn't agree more.
 
I just happen to believe that when the head of the household, the father

I don't buy into the concept of "head of the household."
It works fine for some, to be sure, but I wouldn't want any woman who needed to be led.
I demand an equal partner, you know, the type of woman who would be swinging an axe beside you if there was civil strife or a home invasion.:thumbup:
I want the sort of woman who CANNOT be dominated; I have that with my wife.:)
 
my kids will have knives before they have names,
really sucks that kid has to grow up in that kind of enviroment.
whats the world coming to?
 
I don't buy into the concept of "head of the household."
It works fine for some, to be sure, but I wouldn't want any woman who needed to be led.
I demand an equal partner, you know, the type of woman who would be swinging an axe beside you if there was civil strife or a home invasion.:thumbup:
I want the sort of woman who CANNOT be dominated; I have that with my wife.:)

Amen to that one :thumbup:

That's what I have with my fiance, equal grounds unless one of us knows the other is wrong in some situations, then we just fix it and go about our day :) I taught her to not be afraid of knives and guns and instead to accept them as tools (even guns are tools for hunting).

4 years later and I can whip out my knife like nothing and clean/play with my "precious" pistol and she doesn't even flinch.
 
Same as above. I showed her mom my MT exec Scarab (before the Saudi Scammer got it) and she said it was cool :D
 
I don't buy into the concept of "head of the household."
It works fine for some, to be sure, but I wouldn't want any woman who needed to be led.
I demand an equal partner, you know, the type of woman who would be swinging an axe beside you if there was civil strife or a home invasion.
I want the sort of woman who CANNOT be dominated; I have that with my wife.

Amen to that one

That's what I have with my fiance, equal grounds unless one of us knows the other is wrong in some situations, then we just fix it and go about our day I taught her to not be afraid of knives and guns and instead to accept them as tools (even guns are tools for hunting).

4 years later and I can whip out my knife like nothing and clean/play with my "precious" pistol and she doesn't even flinch.

There are no marriages of equals.
In every marriage, or in any relationship for that matter, there is always one who is the dominant.
If you think that you have a marriage of equals, then you clearly are not the dominant one in the relationship.
 
There are no marriages of equals.
In every marriage, or in any relationship for that matter, there is always one who is the dominant.
If you think that you have a marriage of equals, then you clearly are not the dominant one in the relationship.

Don't project your misconceptions on me.
I don't tell you how to run your life, and don't think you know how mine goes.
It's kind of sad if you've never experienced a relationship between equals.
 
"Relationship Between Equals? Mmmmmm...not sure about that...I remember the night I came home drunk on my ass in the middle of the night needing to piss really bad and getting madder than hell because the kitchen sink was full of dirty dishes....When I woke up from my frying pan upside the head coma...that whole idea of "equals" sort of faded away....

(grin)
 
Don't project your misconceptions on me.
I don't tell you how to run your life, and don't think you know how mine goes.
It's kind of sad if you've never experienced a relationship between equals.
It's not a misconception at all.
You partner might be your intellectual equal, your financial equal, heck, maybe even your physical equal....but in every relationship there is always one dominant.
Either you are the dominant in the relationship, or your partner is.
Often those who think they are "equal" are only equal for as long as the dominant one allows them to be.

And don't confuse dominance with gender-types....they are not the same.
A very feminine woman can still be the dominant partner to a very masculine man.
Or a very feminine man can still be the dominate to a rather masculine woman.
 
Actually in a good relationship the dominant one varies from moment to moment. When it comes to some things I'm the dominant one, and on other things my wife it.

That being because both of us allow the other to take "dominance" in certain roles.

But I stand by what I said, the man acted irrational and his wife corrected him just as she should have.
 
Actually in a good relationship the dominant one varies from moment to moment. When it comes to some things I'm the dominant one, and on other things my wife it.

That being because both of us allow the other to take "dominance" in certain roles.

But I stand by what I said, the man acted irrational and his wife corrected him just as she should have.

That's how mine goes, my finace knows when to leave me alone and there are times when I know that she does/doesn't need my full attention. It's the good stuff like this that allows us to read each other without having to play the dominant one 24/7.
 
Same with me. My mom said no on knives over and over... and also confiscated them over and over... which made me buy more :D

Funny, my mom bought me knives. But then again, she also had a gun license. She´s a down to earth person and, dare I say, educated me well so that, as a kid, I never hurt myself or anybody else with the knives.

Times have changed, but there are still people with common sense. Just yesterday, I met a girl at the pub. We got talking and she told me that she always carries a flashlight and a knife. Plus she´s pretty hot... and engaged. :(

Just saying, not all is lost.
 
Just yesterday, I met a girl at the pub. We got talking and she told me that she always carries a flashlight and a knife. Plus she´s pretty hot... and engaged. :(

... and her finacee probably says, "why do you always have to carry a knife and a flashlight?" :jerkit:
 
Actually in a good relationship the dominant one varies from moment to moment. When it comes to some things I'm the dominant one, and on other things my wife it.

That being because both of us allow the other to take "dominance" in certain roles.

Pretty much that is what I mean by a relationship between equals.
If both partners attempt to have full dominance in all areas at all times, then nothing gets done, as one "vote" acts as a veto to the other.
As life is fluid, so are relationships.:)
 
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