What I would like to see.....

Isn't that extremely close to the Bravo Necker? I am perfectly content with my
HEST the way it is, I think ditching the prybar would be a mistake as far as ergonomics go-the way the handle is as it stands is very grippy, comfortably and VERY secure. If you lost the prybar all of that would go away.
 
texastonydobbs said:
I like your version Doc, I'd add to scale back the wire breaker blade beak...
that thing bites...
Scales look like the Original , I preferred as well.
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I concur.
I do not own a HEST but handled it at last years blade show. The modded one would be a great addition to the line.
I like the laughing skull.
Bill
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While I haven't used one, I have handled one and just going by that, the two items in question didn't seem to bother me. I would leave them even if I never used them.

Seriously, I wouldn't want to be using a sharp object to open my 10 or 12th beer anyway. I want a ''Jerry's Kid'' bottle opener with no sharp edges, but that's just me. ;)


What I would like to see is a way to unscrew the screws in the grip. I would add a flat piece of steel to the bottom of the sheath and sandwich it inbetween the layers of kydex, and shape it into a flat tip screwdriver. Now you always have a way to open the grip that can never be lost.
 
The bottle opener is more of a gimmick that goes back to a lot of our travels. All these tough guys always have sorts of weaponry and shit and we just want to make sure we can open our beers in a Third World dirt floor bar. When you pull out the HEST to do it, it attracts a lot of attention and breaks the ice and makes you new friends in low places.
 
While I do like the looks of your photoshopped HEST, I doubt I would by one. I use the hell out of that prybar, and opened the beer I am drinking right now with it. really like the "bottle opener" notch as a thumb spot.
I bought the HEST for its awesome utilitarian design. To those who hate the prybar, grind that sucker off. I love mine.
 
Reason I just ordered a HEST is because its an oddity and stands out from the rest of the run of the mill type knives.
 
Thanks, everyone, for your comments, both pro and con. In retrospect, I could live with the pry bar, because if I didn't like it, I could grind it off. The bottle opener, however, just doesn't work for me, and not just because it's a bottle opener.

Another comparison picture:

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Anything that cuts into the spine of a knife, turns me off. That's one of the reasons I never bought a BK&T Tac Tool - the gut hook (or whatever the heck it is) on it.



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Otherwise I quite liked it.



R.A.T. said:
The DPx line is evolving into other gear and sizes, so something along those lines may be in the works in the future.
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I'm glad to hear it, Jeff, because a little knife with that thickness would be ideal as an EDC, city and country, at least for me, and I don't know of anything that comes close, except perhaps the TOPS Sgt. Scorpion, with it's 1/4" spine, although that's too much (for me). Also the blade is longer, which I can do without, and I don't like the blade shape near as much.



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I've been looking for a new knife for my birthday (a month ago) and if the DPx line comes out, sans the bottle opener, my decision has been made for me.

Doc
 
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I'll be honest... I'm a little iffy on the pry bar, simply because I can't think of any time in a long time that I've needed to actually pry. BUT, if it works as a flat-head screwdriver (like someone mentioned), or can be used for a scraper (wood for firestarting), or some such, I'll let it stay. If I find that I'm not using it, I might take it off, but I doubt it.

But the bottle opener.... like I said in another thread, even though I talked crap about not needing it to open my beer, I think it is way cool.
 
I love my HEST, and it is my edc. I don't think DOC is talking about revising the HEST, but a whole new blade from DPx. Like Jeff said DPx is evolving into it's own entity.

I like your design DOC, but what about adding either a window breaker to the end, or a flat style prybar instead of the current HEST hook. That would add some utility and I think keep with the spirit of the DPx philosophy.
 
I like that idea. Those two features removed would make me buy one. Kind of like a more ergonomic RC3, with no choil. Thumbs up!
 
OK, maybe I didn't make it clear in the instructions... the beer opener is for the poor bastards who don't have a DPx HEST. DPx HEST owners already have their beers opened by the overly-attentive, dangerously attractive, large breasted bar wench.

As those people that grind off the pry bar...you just know that karma is a bitch, one day...shit will happen...your life will be hanging by a thread...you reach for your trusty HEST.. now if only you had left that damn prybar to extract yourself... :)))
 
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OK, maybe I didn't make it clear in the instructions... the beer opener is for the poor bastards who don't have a DPx HEST. DPx HEST owners already have their beers opened by the overly-attentive, dangerously attractive, large breasted bar wench.

As those people that grind off the pry bar...you just know that karma is a bitch, one day...shit will happen...your life will be hanging by a thread...you reach for your trusty HEST.. now if only you had left that damn prybar to extract yourself... :)))
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Assumptions are a bitch! :D We're knife knuts - who said we wouldn't have one of each????? (the knife, not the bar wench, but then again............)

ETA: I really hope the opener-less version is made because not only would it fill a void for a wider-than-average spine (without a huge chunk missing :rolleyes:) in a short bladed knife, it also has a really nice look to it - 'all business'.

Doc
 
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RYP said:
OK, maybe I didn't make it clear in the instructions... the beer opener is for the poor bastards who don't have a DPx HEST. DPx HEST owners already have their beers opened by the overly-attentive, dangerously attractive, large breasted bar wench.

As those people that grind off the pry bar...you just know that karma is a bitch, one day...shit will happen...your life will be hanging by a thread...you reach for your trusty HEST.. now if only you had left that damn prybar to extract yourself... :)))
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Thats my thought on the matter.

The HEST is a no nonsense , no bullsh*t urban/outdoor/tactical survival knife..I carry mine every single day, because i know i am prepaired to deal with the worst of situations that could threaten my life or others lives..Why not leave the HEST in all its glory and just request a thicker RC3? does that not make more sense?

The prybar is pure perfection..it allowes you to have prying capability without risking the sacrifice of the blade..a few posts ago regarding ESEE warranty, i read a story about a user that snapped his IZULA in half prying open his truck door trying to get at the keys he locked in his vehicle..If he was carrying a HEST, that wouldnt have happened and he still would have use of his blade..Because of the prybar! and if the prybar didnt work, the thickness of the blade would have sufficed to get the job done.

So dont tame the HEST, thats the equivilent of pulling all the teeth out of a tiger and putting it back in the wild.

take a knife already 90% what you want ( RC3 ) and make it thicker. done deal.
 
Gaurdian_A1 said:
Thats my thought on the matter.

The HEST is a no nonsense , no bullsh*t urban/outdoor/tactical survival knife..I carry mine every single day, because i know i am prepaired to deal with the worst of situations that could threaten my life or others lives..Why not leave the HEST in all its glory and just request a thicker RC3? does that not make more sense?

The prybar is pure perfection..it allowes you to have prying capability without risking the sacrifice of the blade..a few posts ago regarding ESEE warranty, i read a story about a user that snapped his IZULA in half prying open his truck door trying to get at the keys he locked in his vehicle..If he was carrying a HEST, that wouldnt have happened and he still would have use of his blade..Because of the prybar! and if the prybar didnt work, the thickness of the blade would have sufficed to get the job done.

So dont tame the HEST, thats the equivilent of pulling all the teeth out of a tiger and putting it back in the wild.

take a knife already 90% what you want ( RC3 ) and make it thicker. done deal.
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The RC-3 is a different knife all together and why is it ok to change the RC-3 which I like, but it's not ok to change the H.E.S.T.? BTW, these things are not mutually exclusive - both styles can be made.

Since it was already mentioned that the pry bar could stay and, if necessary, be removed by the individual owner, I don't understand your position on it. I would, however, like to see the H.E.S.T. pry open a car door with the prybar. That would, certainly, change my mind about it.

Also, in retrospect, if I did want to remove the prybar, I wouldn't remove it all because I can see how it could affect the security of the grip.

So if the prybar is left alone, I don't think you can make a case for the bottle opener preparing you "to deal with the worst of situations that could threaten my life or others lives".

Doc

That reminds me, back in this thread, you asked for more traps. Did you check them out?
 
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I've successfully pried a lotta stuff with knife blade tips and never broken one-------but I was usually a little nervous while doing it. I think the pry bar is a great idea. My only concern is what it'll dig into while carrying it. After I buy one, I'll experiment with minimizing the risk.
 
I love the HEST the way it is, it's a bulldog of a knife/tool. For me, so far, the prybar has a more frequently used function and that is to aid in grip retention. It's like the handle was custom fit for my hand. I think I have normal size hands, and the grip of the HEST is the best I've ever felt. There is no fear for me about this knife slipping out of my hand under any conditions as that pry bar will stop it, and aid in my hand staying fully on the handle.

As was said above, it has become my EDC because it can do so much, yet is compact enough to be carried discretely (I'm in an urban environment most of the time).

I wouldn't change a thing.

[edit: - oh yeah - I forgot to mention the space between the handles - pure genious - you can fit so much in there it's unbelievable. So you've got this kick a$$ knife with many other functions, and to boot, you can store some PSK items in the handle. Two thumbs up.:thumbup: :thumbup:]
 
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