What I would like to see.....

[Gaurdian_A1]

The RC-3 is a different knife all together and why is it ok to change the RC-3 which I like, but it's not ok to change the H.E.S.T.? BTW, these things are not mutually exclusive - both styles can be made.

Since it was already mentioned that the pry bar could stay and, if necessary, be removed by the individual owner, I don't understand your position on it. I would, however, like to see the H.E.S.T. pry open a car door with the prybar. That would, certainly, change my mind about it.

Also, in retrospect, if I did want to remove the prybar, I wouldn't remove it all because I can see how it could affect the security of the grip.

So if the prybar is left alone, I don't think you can make a case for the bottle opener preparing you "to deal with the worst of situations that could threaten my life or others lives".

Doc

That reminds me, back in this thread, you asked for more traps. Did you check them out?

Thanks for the link to check out those traps! I understand what you're saying. Instead of changing two awesome knives, just make an all new one. Makes sense.

 

[dogboye]

Having just gone and picked up my HEST at the PO, I'd have to say I don't think I'd change a thing. IF anything, I'd make it of just a wee bit thinner stock, since you have the pry-bar at the butt anyway. But other than that, no. And I'm not saying I would WANT it thinner. Just that is the only thing I could even conceive of changing.

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

Lots of videos out there of us chopping, batoning, etc... with our knives but not so much with the other features such as the prying and glass breakers. Living and working in the city of Los Angeles I have 2 mini pry-bars in my pack. I'd love to see the Hest's pry-bar and wire break notch in action. I definitely like the looks of the knife.

 

[Jean J. Lautréamont]

Doc

I would like a knife like that.

 

[beef]

Noone is suggesting discontinuing the HEST to make room for this idea...
You can have two similar knives... if you already own a HEST and like it, noone would force you to give it up and buy this new idea.

 

[DOC-CANADA]

I would like a knife like that.

So would I Jean. A short bladed, 3/16" spine, with an adequately-sized handle would be ideal. I don't know of anybody that makes one, anybody reputable, that is, that's why I'm pinning my hopes on R.A.T.

I have an RC-3 and an Izula, with another R.A.T. on the way, but if the one in your post was offered, I would sell off one of my other knives (not the R.A.T.'s), if necessary.

I think it would be perfect, with maybe a little scale and screw location adjustment.

Doc

 

[DOC-CANADA]

OK, all you nay-sayers - take a really good look at this, then tell me you don't want one!

Speak up, I can't hear you!

Doc

 

[JV3]

OK, all you nay-sayers - take a really good look at this, then tell me you don't want one!

Speak up, I can't hear you!

Doc

this version i like! removing the bottle opener really cleans up the lines imho. i'm a black scales kinda guy so seeing a pic of one might push me over the edge and buy a h.e.s.t in it's current config though

 

[FortyTwoBlades]

Rit dye is your best friend then.

 

[JV3]

Rit dye is your best friend then.

sharpie is! the rit is just a momentary lapse of impatience took me an hour to dye these freaking things.

 

[Gaurdian_A1]

The RC-3 is a different knife all together and why is it ok to change the RC-3 which I like, but it's not ok to change the H.E.S.T.? BTW, these things are not mutually exclusive - both styles can be made.

Since it was already mentioned that the pry bar could stay and, if necessary, be removed by the individual owner, I don't understand your position on it. I would, however, like to see the H.E.S.T. pry open a car door with the prybar. That would, certainly, change my mind about it.

Also, in retrospect, if I did want to remove the prybar, I wouldn't remove it all because I can see how it could affect the security of the grip.

So if the prybar is left alone, I don't think you can make a case for the bottle opener preparing you "to deal with the worst of situations that could threaten my life or others lives".

Doc

That reminds me, back in this thread, you asked for more traps. Did you check them out?

HEY!! If myself or anyone around me cant open thier beer after work thats a serious life threatening situation is it not?!!? Thats how you make a case for the bottle opener! LOL

 

[dogboye]

OK, all you nay-sayers - take a really good look at this, then tell me you don't want one!

Speak up, I can't hear you!

Doc

Don't want one. Sorry. I don't think I'd change a thing, the more I carry it. It is just a SWEET knife as is.

 

[iacchus]

OK, all you nay-sayers - take a really good look at this, then tell me you don't want one!

Speak up, I can't hear you!

Doc

That looks good, I won't lie...
but what would make it awesome is if there was a bottle opener notch there at the base of the spine. Then it would be perfect!

 

[DOC-CANADA]

OK, maybe I didn't make it clear in the instructions... the beer opener is for the poor bastards who don't have a DPx HEST. DPx HEST owners already have their beers opened by the overly-attentive, dangerously attractive, large breasted bar wench.

As those people that grind off the pry bar...you just know that karma is a bitch, one day...shit will happen...your life will be hanging by a thread...you reach for your trusty HEST.. now if only you had left that damn prybar to extract yourself... ))

Assumptions are a bitch! We're knife knuts - who said we wouldn't have one of each????? (the knife, not the bar wench, but then again............)

ETA: I really hope the opener-less version is made because not only would it fill a void for a wider-than-average spine (without a huge chunk missing ) in a short bladed knife, it also has a really nice look to it - 'all business'.

Doc

OK, I have now experienced the H.E.S.T. and I really, really like it, except for the silly bottle opener. (Haven't used it enough to make my mind up on the pry bar yet.)

Now Mr. Pelton made some reference to it being incorporated into some specialty lashing technique, IIRC. Anybody have a link to this? If I could find some useful, otherwise unobtained, function (other than opening bottles which I can do with the edge of the spine) I might have a change of heart.

Even so, I still really want one with the bottle opener removed - PLEASE GUYS!!! Once again, I'm not suggesting replacing the current incarnation with the new one, but rather as an option.

Having said that, I plan on giving this one a workout once the weather is cooler (I hate summer) and I have stripped the blade.

Doc

 

[iacchus]

OK, I have now experienced the H.E.S.T. and I really, really like it, except for the silly bottle opener. (Haven't used it enough to make my mind up on the pry bar yet.)



Now Mr. Pelton made some reference to it being incorporated into some specialty lashing technique, IIRC. Anybody have a link to this? If I could find some useful, otherwise unobtained, function (other than opening bottles which I can do with the edge of the spine) I might have a change of heart.

Even so, I still really want one with the bottle opener removed - PLEASE GUYS!!! Once again, I'm not suggesting replacing the current incarnation with the new one, but rather as an option.

Having said that, I plan on giving this one a workout once the weather is cooler (I hate summer) and I have stripped the blade.

Doc

The "bottle Opener" notch can be used in conjunction with the wire break choil to lash the HEST blade to a limb to make a spear. This would come in very handy to give the blade some reach. I doubt I would be throwing my HEST spear unless I had to, but the reach obtained could be very useful.

Also, the top notch makes a great spot for the thumb, much better control than some of the jimping on knives I have used.

 

[DOC-CANADA]

The "bottle Opener" notch can be used in conjunction with the wire break choil to lash the HEST blade to a limb to make a spear. This would come in very handy to give the blade some reach. I doubt I would be throwing my HEST spear unless I had to, but the reach obtained could be very useful.

Also, the top notch makes a great spot for the thumb, much better control than some of the jimping on knives I have used.

Thanks for the reply iacchus.

The knife could easily be lashed to a limb without the bottle opener.

When I have it in hand, my thumb automatically falls on the jimping, not on the opener notch. BTW, I like the degree of jimping - not so sharp as to be uncomfortable as it is on my BRKT Gunny.

Doc

 

[dogboye]

I've been carrying mine a lot, and using it. I love the bottle opener. Yeah, sure, I can open my bottles with the edge of the spine. Or, I could use any two of the Victorinox knives that I almost ALWAYS have on me. But the HEST opener is just the most handy, and the easiest to use. Needed? No. Useful? You bet your a$$. Fun? Oh YEAHHHHHHH!

 

[mr dylan]

what i don't like about the HEST is that the blade to handle ratio is so out of whack. i just don't like the looks at all.

 

[dogboye]

I didn't like the looks either. Not sure that I do YET. And I was kinda in the same boat on the blade to handle ratio. But it was getting such good reviews on here, I wanted to try it. And it works. I've got ESEE-4's, an RC-3, and the HEST. As much as I like the -3 and -4, the HEST is the one that I find strapped to my belt the most. I want to stick in in my shooter's or hiking pack, but I can't stop carrying it. EVENTUALLY I want to get it stashed in my pack, but I don't know when that will be.

I'm not trying to convince you to buy it. Just saying that sometimes you need to hold it and experience it before passing judgement.

 

[R.A.T.]

Expatriate, a regular contributor here, has made the HEST his go-to blade for just about everything he does now - replacing the RC-3 he had. And he travels the world doing stuff you only see in fiction movies. Another world traveler, bearthedog, also uses the HEST a lot. Not trying to sell you on the HEST but just saying we have some pretty hard-core guys using this blade now as a primary tool.

Hang tight, in the future their may just be some HEST variations in the making