What is so special about the Ratmandu?

oeser said:
The only thing I would add to that RMD LE would be make it in INFI.

If the S5 LE can be INFI why not an RMD LE.

That would be THE ULTIMATE RMD!:D:thumbup:
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I don't understand the infatuation with infi, its a frigging marketing gig, no offense but in order to create your own steels you better have huge volumes, I don't mean cutlery volumes I mean industry levels.

It might be slightly more corrosion resistant than SR101 (and I've never seen prove of that because it would mean that infi has less carbon) but even the latter one is just a normal steel with a fancy name.

I love the RMD and what I would like is consistent flat tops, no silly swedge. Also an anorexic version would be nice, knives are for cutting after all.

I've both the micarta and G10 version and I prefer the feel of G10 and I also like the black colour.
 
bodhi_ said:
Also an anorexic version would be nice, knives are for cutting after all.
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I think the thickness is perfect. It lends itself to be a multi purpose knife. You wouldn't bring a Henkels butcher knife into camp, even though it is meant for cutting. I've gotten my RMD razor, hair popping sharp on just a strop. Its already on the thinner side of SR knives. I wouldn't mind a satin version though.
 
bodhi_ said:
I don't understand the infatuation with infi, its a frigging marketing gig, no offense but in order to create your own steels you better have huge volumes, I don't mean cutlery volumes I mean industry levels.
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So, your claim is that Busse doesn't actually make INFI?
 
Kaizen1 said:
So, your claim is that Busse doesn't actually make INFI?
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Busse doesn't make any steel. They make knives. :D

Seriously though, people have analyzed Infi and come up with the composition, can anyone match that with a stock offering from any foundry?

Kershaw got a custom steel out of Sandvik, I don't think it's impossible for a maker to commision a run of a modified steel.

As for why people are keen on Infi, it could be because they've used it. :eek: Shocking, I know.
 
bodhi_ said:
I don't understand the infatuation with infi, its a frigging marketing gig, no offense but in order to create your own steels you better have huge volumes, I don't mean cutlery volumes I mean industry levels.

It might be slightly more corrosion resistant than SR101 (and I've never seen prove of that because it would mean that infi has less carbon) but even the latter one is just a normal steel with a fancy name.
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I'm guessing you don't actually own any INFI. It's WAY, WAY, WAY more corrosion resistant than SR101. It's almost stainless. It manages to get better performance than SR101 with great corrosion resistance by incorporating a fair bit of nitrogen into its mix, along with some other things.

SR-101 might basically be ball bearing steel, but INFI is a true proprietary steel mix. And it's pretty awesome.



Now, for most choices, SR-101 has all the performance you could want, but INFI is certainly a very special steel and has earned the following it has. I suggest you buy a few pieces of INFI and find out for yourself - the Scrap Yard Scrapper 5 LE in INFI will be taken down off the site in less than 72 hours, so you might want to check that out.
 
I actually do own infi. I would really like to know how these people comes around with "their" user experience that infi is worlds apart from everything else. I don't have any beauty queens, all my lknives are users, some user though are gathering dust.
 
bodhi_ said:
I actually do own infi. I would really like to know how these people comes around with "their" user experience that infi is worlds apart from everything else. I don't have any beauty queens, all my lknives are users, some user though are gathering dust.
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If for no other reason, INFI is a great steel because you can almost be assured to be able to resell it for about what you put into it, and likely even more. Not sure if that is a great reason to purchase a $400 knife but it sure doesn't hurt.
 
iamtoast said:
If for no other reason, INFI is a great steel because you can almost be assured to be able to resell it for about what you put into it, and likely even more. Not sure if that is a great reason to purchase a $400 knife but it sure doesn't hurt.
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I have taken some "minor" losses on some INFI that I have unfortunately had to unload in recent months.

So, I don't personally feel the "safety of investment" is what it used to be.

But, if just "Needing" to hold and feel first hand to determine if you want to keep, loosing a few bucks isn't all bad.

But, buying just for the sake of flipping for investment is IMO very suspect on certain knives lately..... Maybe in a "Few" years (??????).

But, who knows (?????).

Personally, I have not been a big advocate of buying knives for investment. But, I have purchased some that I didn't ultimately need, or just needed to sell for various other reasons. And it is nice to not take big losses. But, I haven't been so lucky as to make good big profits. Not really trying to either though.

Anyway, I have seen quite a few other maker's knives soar in value at certain times and TANK in value later.

There are a lot of factors to consider.


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Kaizen1 said:
Interestingly, I find the value of the S5LE to be the opposite of what you find. Yes, if we compare it to the SR-101 it may seem to be a significant price increase. However, if we compare it to comparably sized INFI blades from Busse, we find that it's being offered at a relatively low price. Many comparably sized INFI blades are offered from Busse for $100+ more without the satin finish. If we consider that INFI blades tend to increase significantly on the secondary market, the S5LE makes even more sense value-wise.
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Why would I compare the S5LE to Busse INFI - when an obvious comparison is to the S5CG?

IMO, in a knife the size of the S5, all INFI provides in real world function and use (for "my" uses and needs) is improved corrosion resistance.

I ALWAYS prefer satin. So, I REALLY wanted the S5LE.

But, yeah, I think the S5LE was priced too high for "me".

You "could" compare the S5LE as a bargain compared to Busse INFI - and especially similar sized Busse's in Satin finish.


.... But, you made me say it: Personally, I think Busse charges WAY too much for satin finishes on INFI. Typically $200 - $330 MORE for satin finishes. :grumpy:

And IMO most Busse smaller knives are WAY higher priced even for CG's than I feel they are worth paying for.

Sometimes good deals happen. And some mid-sized knives seem to offer a better return of usable value IMO.

But, to each their own.

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DWRW said:
Why would I compare the S5LE to Busse INFI - when an obvious comparison is to the S5CG?
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Because I don't think it's the only thing it can be reasonably compared to. The real difference between the Busse companies isn't the models so much as the steel. So when one of the Busskin companies uses INFI, it might as well have been sold at the Busse company store.
 
To the original poster... What makes the RMD so special?

Because of it's similarity to one of the best all-time Rats.

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bodhi_ said:
I actually do own infi.
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Then I wonder if you own SR-101. SR-101 rusts like crazy, and I've left INFI laying outside in wet grass for a week with not a spot on it. To imply that INFI is only "slightly" more corrosion resistant than SR-101 you either have to be blind, clueless, or just have an agenda to push because you feel INFI is overpriced.


If you think it's overpriced, you have every right to think so, but there's no reason to exaggerate or outright lie to try to dump on the steel.
 
One verbal warning only, folks... Keep it friendly. Agree to disagree but no personal attacks.
 
I didn't go for the Desert Jack because it was just too slim looking, overall, for my taste. The RatManDu has the great clip point and a broad "Bowie" style blade and the broader handle with the squared butt. It pushed all the necessary Knife buttons for me. I've only gotten to use it a few times but it performs like a champ!
 
DWRW said:
I have taken some "minor" losses on some INFI that I have unfortunately had to unload in recent months.

So, I don't personally feel the "safety of investment" is what it used to be.

But, if just "Needing" to hold and feel first hand to determine if you want to keep, loosing a few bucks isn't all bad.

But, buying just for the sake of flipping for investment is IMO very suspect on certain knives lately..... Maybe in a "Few" years (??????).

But, who knows (?????).

Personally, I have not been a big advocate of buying knives for investment. But, I have purchased some that I didn't ultimately need, or just needed to sell for various other reasons. And it is nice to not take big losses. But, I haven't been so lucky as to make good big profits. Not really trying to either though.

Anyway, I have seen quite a few other maker's knives soar in value at certain times and TANK in value later.

There are a lot of factors to consider.


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Even if I were the type to flip a knife, and I am not, I could never afford to do it. I basically have to sell one in order to purchase one.

I have been rather pissed off at the flipping that has occurred recently, especially with the desert dog fathers. Scrap yard has a ton of people on their own forums who would have loved to purchase those knives. Instead they were added to a !@##$% ganza (how this fits into the 'new buisness plan' I do not know) and bought out seemingly by many people who only intended to deprive others of them so they can jack up the price and make a quick profit. I personally wonder if these 'people' pay taxes on their income. I doubt it and it makes them thieves.

If you have not guessed that is not what I am talking about in my response to you.
 
Wow that is a great looking knife. Nice comparison photo I had no idea that they were that similar in size. I guess I should have but the pic really shows it nicely. I am also surprised at how narrow the desert jack blade is bwo comparison. I wish they would use that handle style again. That knife has always been a favorite design of mine to look at as I do not own one. If it lacked the choil I would be willing to pay even more for it.
 
Beats me why! But have two now, and want more! As addicting as the Glock - of which I own six! RMD's much less expensive of course...Cheers.
 
Holy newbie thread resurrection!!! :eek: ;) Need my pair o' Ruckis to slay this zombie! :D
 
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