What is the Definition of Ettrick??

[Iris]

Oh bummer haha...

 

[Jack Black]

Duncan or Iris, do knives imported into NZ require the country of origin stamp?
Ref. The "ENGLAND" stamp required on knives into America?

I don't think there was any such requirement Charlie, and some Antipodean factors sold Sheffield-made knives marked entirely with their own stamp.

Edit - Just reading a fascinating book Cambertree very kindly gifted me: Australian & New Zealand Cutlers And Cutlery 1788-1988 Thoroughly recommended :thumbup:

 

[Bartleby]

Since Wharncliffe blades were mentioned, I thought I'd add a picture comparing the Wharncliffe to the Ettricks!

As you can see, the Wharncliffe is longer and broader than the Ettricks. It is also mounted in the handle pattern most associated with it. I call it a Serpentine Sleeveboard.
There are many opinions about the origins of that pattern and blade - a discussion for another thread!

The Ettricks typically have swayback handles of various sizes.

I am thinking of ordering a Wright's Tackler. Would these be considered an Ettrick variation? They look quite a bit like the bottom Rodgers and Sons illustrated here. Thanks very much to everyone for posting on the Sheffield straight edged patterns, here and in the Lambfoot threads great information!

 

[Jack Black]

I am thinking of ordering a Wright's Tackler. Would these be considered an Ettrick variation? They look quite a bit like the bottom Rodgers and Sons illustrated here. Thanks very much to everyone for posting on the Sheffield straight edged patterns, here and in the Lambfoot threads great information!

It's not an Ettrick variation, but is a great knife I think, with its own interesting history :thumbup:

 

[Bartleby]

Thanks! I will start a Tackler thread in that case. I still carry the Ettrick I posted on earlier fairly often, a great little carver!

 

[PNWJimbo]

I love how these old threads surface. The porch is my favorite place to browse and learn all sorts of neat things about knives and the people who love them. Cheers all

EDIT:

Forgot to say how much I love the S shaped lines on these beauties. Really looking forward to having my workshop set up so I can play around with all the funky designs I see here.

EDIT #2:

I must also comment that this style design, thanks to the helpful pictures above comparing to other wharnies, might be something I actually find carryable! I never carry wharnie mains because I need something with a little belly in it... its hard to chop something all the way flat with something of a 47 shape, but with the handle on these sitting so far below the blade, you can chop straight down at the end of a table and keep the blade straight! AWESOME!

 

[Jack Black]

Thanks! I will start a Tackler thread in that case. I still carry the Ettrick I posted on earlier fairly often, a great little carver!

There's probably some Tackler Talk here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1267207-Straight-Edge-Traditionals :thumbup:

 

[Bartleby]

There's probably some Tackler Talk here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1267207-Straight-Edge-Traditionals :thumbup:

You are a gentleman sir, thank you for anticipating my needs!

 

[Cambertree]

Looking forward to giving this stag A. Wright and Sons some pocket time and use.

 

[Bartleby]

Much better stag than I have seen on a Wright's knife in a while! Well chosen sir!

 

[Cambertree]

Much better stag than I have seen on a Wright's knife in a while! Well chosen sir!

Thanks Bartleby.

I've been curious about the Ettrick for a while, so as soon as I saw this fine example, I snapped it up. I'm looking forward to seeing how it functions as a general EDC knife - I recall Charlie went through an Ettrick carry phase, referred to in earlier pages of this thread and quite enjoyed the pattern for that purpose.

Just reading a fascinating book Cambertree very kindly gifted me: Australian & New Zealand Cutlers And Cutlery 1788-1988 Thoroughly recommended :thumbup:

Oh, glad you're enjoying the book, my friend.

I remember you once saying you would like to know more about Antipodean cutlery history and there's a ton of great information in that book. I thought the history of the cutlers that emigrated to Australia from Salisbury, and after the Great Sheffield Flood of 1864, would also be of particular interest to you.

 

[Campbellclanman]

That my friend is a real nice example- Well done!

 

[Jack Black]

Wow Chin, you got a real nice Ettrick eaxample there! :thumbup:

Much better stag than I have seen on a Wright's knife in a while! Well chosen sir!

I agree. I think they have a new source for their stag. You can't beat going to an actual bricks and mortar shop and picking one in person though :thumbup:

Oh, glad you're enjoying the book, my friend.:thumbup:

I remember you once saying you would like to know more about Antipodean cutlery history and there's a ton of great information in that book. I thought the history of the cutlers that emigrated to Australia from Salisbury, and after the Great Sheffield Flood of 1864, would also be of particular interest to you. :thumbup:

I am indeed my friend, it's absolutely fascinating and wonderfully produced. Thanks again. Bearing in mind the sheer weight of the volume, I thought it was extremely thoughtful that you carried it all the way from Australia, via Ireland, to give to me in Sheffield :thumbup:

 

[Cambertree]

Thanks for the kind comments Duncan and Jack. :thumbup:

I'd be quite interested to see any footage or photos of Scottish old timers actually using an Ettrick. It is quite a curious handle shape: I'm wondering if it may have been used sometimes in a kind of reverse hold with the blade edge facing the user.

I'm thinking of those fascinating and very detailed old British docos you can find on Youtube about, say, proper billhook techniques, and how great it would be if there was some equivalent for traditional pocket knife patterns and how they were used in the old days.

Unfortunately, my own searches have failed to turn up anything like that.

 

[Campbellclanman]

I will be doing a wee bity of homework on the Ettrick myself, I managed to score some nice Lockwoods Bros + Box, I wont post them until Charlie has posted his out of pure respect because he did come across his lot first, my lot are as we saw earlier when the seller was posting about them when she found them - Rusty and needing attention, so I will post later on - cant wait to see Charlies lot :thumbup:

 

[philllll]

I will be doing a wee bity of homework on the Ettrick myself, I managed to score some nice Lockwoods Bros + Box, I wont post them until Charlie has posted his out of pure respect because he did come across his lot first, my lot are as we saw earlier when the seller was posting about them when she found them - Rusty and needing attention, so I will post later on - cant wait to see Charlies lot :thumbup:

Congrats Duncan!! :thumbup:

 

[Jack Black]

I'd be quite interested to see any footage or photos of Scottish old timers actually using an Ettrick.

Me too my friend, but there was a time, when many ordinary folk went their whole life without ever getting their picture taken. We can live in hope of something turning up though

Congrats Duncan!! :thumbup:

+1 :thumbup:

 

[Bartleby]

Thanks for the kind comments Duncan and Jack. :thumbup:

I'd be quite interested to see any footage or photos of Scottish old timers actually using an Ettrick. It is quite a curious handle shape: I'm wondering if it may have been used sometimes in a kind of reverse hold with the blade edge facing the user.

I'm thinking of those fascinating and very detailed old British docos you can find on Youtube about, say, proper billhook techniques, and how great it would be if there was some equivalent for traditional pocket knife patterns and how they were used in the old days.

Unfortunately, my own searches have failed to turn up anything like that.

I have tried to search for the same, with no luck. I suspect that using knives on a farm or in a trade was not considered out of the ordinary enough to document.

 

[Cambertree]

I have tried to search for the same, with no luck. I suspect that using knives on a farm or in a trade was not considered out of the ordinary enough to document.

Me too my friend, but there was a time, when many ordinary folk went their whole life without ever getting their picture taken. We can live in hope of something turning up though

Very true. Sometimes you can find a fleeting reference in a most unlikely place. Albums of old photos in local historical societies... One tip I was given that seems sound, is to track down the old retired schoolmaster if you are looking for information and leads to follow up in a particular local country area. I need to start looking through some of those old 'Life in Britain' documentary series episodes, you mentioned as well, Jack. :thumbup:

Duncan (and Charlie): Congratulations! I'm so glad those superb boxes of Lockwood Ettricks will be going to good homes. I'll be waiting with bated breath to see them, once they arrive and hear what you both can read into them. :thumbup:

 

[Iris]

His are in a better condition to be sure. Didn't post pics of his either as thought he might want to himself. I know he will be VERY pleased with them

I will be doing a wee bity of homework on the Ettrick myself, I managed to score some nice Lockwoods Bros + Box, I wont post them until Charlie has posted his out of pure respect because he did come across his lot first, my lot are as we saw earlier when the seller was posting about them when she found them - Rusty and needing attention, so I will post later on - cant wait to see Charlies lot :thumbup: