What kind of folder do you carry?

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by JustinFournier, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. evltcat

    evltcat Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 7, 2011
    For the last couple months its been my Olamic Wayfarer with snakewood handles:


    And my Ferrum Forge Fortis:

    If I don't have the Fortis, I have the SM-100 Stinger:

    Anyone carry a Jake Hoback Kwaiback? I've been Jonesin' for one for a Looooooong time, but still haven't pulled the trigger.
  2. donscpoo

    donscpoo Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2013
    I have a weakness for folder with CF scale. These are some of my CF rotation.


    This Spyderco Military sprint is my most carried folder. I love the patina on the blade. The weight, action and blade steel are perfect for my need.


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  3. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    Very nice gentlemen.

    I second the notion of an american made folder to rival the Shirogorov.

    I've said time and time again, that a great place to start evaluating a design is against the Sebenza. It's a classic design that has stood the test of time. It's also a great value on the secondary market, in and around the $350 range. Lots of knife for that much money. It's not perfect but not a bad starting point. I think Nathan's tool focused direction at this time fits into that category well.

    But as coiledwire said regarding the Shirogorov 95R, Wow. In my experience with over 30 knives from CRK, nothing CRK puts out can touch it. In fact, my 95R was the final nail in the coffin of my last remaining CRK in my EDC lineup.

    I want to see a knife that competes with my 95R, and am happy to pay an equivalent cost.

    For me, it's Shirogorov or nothing right now.
  4. tmcdougal


    Jan 12, 2017
    I carry a SOG Trident always. I love it.
  5. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    I agree with this, but would add that a straight forward set of handle scales is just fine. I would love to see what Nathan comes up with from a machinists standpoint, and I'm hoping they showcase his talents a bit. No need for 16 versions of shapes, materials, engravings, etc. The knife should have the CPK look and feel, but not have to be individually run (I'm thinking of the signature, artistic designs on the small runs of Sebenzas).
  6. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    I don't think Nathan wants to make collector type individual graphics at this point. Shiro doesn't do that in the production knives either.

    I was thinking more with regards to the level of attention to detail, the level of finish quality, and the attention spent on tuning the function of the knife to the point it is basically flawless. Even the two step anodize is amazing. It can go from looking almost grey with tiny hints of red to boldly blue with hints of bronze. Hides wear extremely well, and the stonewash which somehow feels literally soft to the touch is carried throughout. The custom fasteners are amazingly well done. The grind is superb, edge applied meticulously. The action is beautiful, not a hint of movement in the blade at any point in its travel, and dead solid lockup with zero stick. You can hardly even tell it's disengaging. And the interior milling, oh my god.

    I guess you can tell I love this thing. It is my new benchmark.

    I have no idea if Nathan is even setup equipment wise to pull off a knife like this.

    Of course I realize not many people will want to spend $1000 on a folder, but some of us will. :)
  7. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    Justin, I gave Nathan the Sebenza I traded with you awhile ago, and designed a folder that is mechanically the same, but with a CPK/Loriendesign look to it, so that's kind of the benchmark that we initially started down this path referencing

    since then, we've discussed the idea of coming up with a flipper based off of the EDC, and that's about as far as this has gotten. With that in mind, there is still basically a fresh slate for us to work from and this thread is really helpful to get a gauge on things before we go in too deep

    from my point of view, a CPK folder should retail somewhere in the $395-$495 range
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  8. S.Alexander


    Jul 7, 2013
    I have two different categories of EDC knives.

    First are the ones I carry at home and in my personal life. These don't see alot of abuse. Mainly used for opening packages, cutting food, cutting ropes/string etc. I like spydercos and my sebenza for these applications. High to full flat grinds with a nice pointy tip.

    However, my knives that get more use are ones I use at work. I carry a lot of gear at work, so I don't carry pocket bricks as knives. However, they do get abused a little more. Sometimes it's the most handy tool I have within reach, and it will be used for a bit of prying, more abusive cutting, turning screws etc. I prefer benchmade, Kershaw, etc for work knives.

    In keeping with the working knife theme of CPK, I would envision a CPK folder as a small and stout knife, with a tough steel, and strong tip.

    IMO, once you get into the $500 USD range you are catering to the collector's market more than the user's market. I'm not saying they won't sell, but it's definitely not something I would buy and use.
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  9. ATJ999

    ATJ999 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 12, 2013
    Ferrum Forge Fortis and Archbishop. Jeremy Robertson El Patron in PD1. Hoback A10. And some Stellite 6K folders. Mac Wasil K390 flipper. I have more, but those are my favorite EDC's. All have been great for everyday out on the farm, as well as doing indoor work.
  10. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    This seems like a perfect evolution of the EDC! I saw an EDC lined up next to a ZT (0561 if I recall...) and though the blade profile of the ZT was a nice complement to the EDC, and I'm now on a mission to get the ZT.
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  11. ManOfSteel89

    ManOfSteel89 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 20, 2012
    CRK/Wilson Combat Starbenza 25
    Large Sebenza 21

    Got a ZT0452CF that I though was for me but just isn't so I'm gonna try to trade it off.
  12. folder geek

    folder geek Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 28, 2012
    Carry drawer[emoji12] Sorry bout the bad pic.
  13. ExtraBaconPlease


    Mar 8, 2016
    I understand the costs but that is one of the reasons I carry a fixed blade instead of a folder.
  14. J_mcrane


    Dec 7, 2013
    I carry a wide variety, less now that I have a CPK EDC. While I haven't bought one in 2 years, I might have to get CPK one. We will see what happens.


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  15. Klutz

    Klutz Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 1, 2011
    CRK 25 on fancy days.
    Spyderco Kahr Arms Delica for restricted areas.
    Ritter Grips, BM 710, Spyderco PM 2's, and Enduras all in rotation on normal days. All of them in several steel varieties.
  16. Thomas Carey

    Thomas Carey Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 26, 2010
    Had one of the first ones of these in the 440C also one of the fixed blades. Should have kept them. Sharpest damn knives I've gotten when they were new.
  17. on_the_edge

    on_the_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    A Spyderco PM2 AND either a CRK small Insingo or a traditional.
  18. Tinbanger


    Jan 27, 2013
    Super knife 2 is in my pocket everyday at work. And the edc took over on the hip.
  19. ManOfSteel89

    ManOfSteel89 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 20, 2012
    What exactly does one do with a $1000 folder? That's a serious letter opener. I'd bet my (apparently too small) paycheck that it doesn't look like my lowly Starbenza does or get used the same either.
  20. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    /shrug. Whatever you want to do with it. I won't trash it as bad as I did my Sebenza 25 w/ micarta. But it should hold up a lot better as it's in M390 rather than soft S35V. I generally don't abuse my EDCs too bad. I never pry much, twist screws or anything. But I have cut carpet, scraped paint off concrete slab, cut drywall, trimmed burrs off 2x4's, stripped wire, cut boxes, tape, food, opened packaging, cut crane slings and a million other little things.

    That is all I really need an EDC for, small tasks like that. I'm not really going to baton with one, I might shave some tinder for the fireplace and the like, but I won't ever purposely destroy it whether it cost me $300 or $3000.

    Worst thing I have probably done to my Sebenza was dropped it down through my engine bay and drove down my street till it fell out. Not really worried about it. When it comes back from spa I bet it will look good as new. It cost what $520?

    The cost of a knife, IMO doesn't really change what the knife can do, and cost is obviously relative. I have had some safe queen knives that were only $300-$500. Tons of UG Sebenzas in that range that were Damascus, I mean my only 21 left is pretty well used, and it's an old PJ Raindrop damascus. In my heart I am really a folder guy because that is what I use the vast majority of the time. I have zero safe queen folders.

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