What Makes A Folder A Fighting Folder?

sh00ter01 said:
Really? Used to commit murder is the only way "fighting knife" can be interpreted? Please...For some people firearms aren't a legal option for self defense, and while a knife is far from ideal, it's better then nothing.

-sh00ter
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Can you provide some real world examples of alternative interpretations?

As soon as you pull a potentially lethal weapon on another human being, you're either responding with, threatening or employing deadly force. Either way, you'll most likely end up terribly injured and/or facing dire legal consequences (manslaughter charges, if you're lucky, but probably prison) or dead. If you think you can "fight" (i.e., have a duel with) your adversary with impunity, you've been watching way too much TV.
 
Okay, lets refer to these knives as "self defense" knives then. Fighting, combat, and trench knives are general fixed blade used by the military.
 
It's all about the mall ninja attitude, unrealistic scenarios held by the owner which the blade might come into use, and the jimping.
 
Edwood7 said:
I think blade shape and length is what makes a folder or a fixed blade a fighter.

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Is that a .22 , do you do a lot of night time plinking?
 
Siggyhk said:
What, exactly, is unrealistic?
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Killing zombies
Fighting someone off while they have you at gun point and you have a knife drawn with no experience or training in using it.
Getting attacked by rabid gophers
Other assorted SHTF scenarios that mall ninja disciples dream of. You know, that sort of thing. See Rick's post above.
 
What makes a folder a fighting folder? - Marketing?

The toothpick pattern and the straight razor both have a colorful history of being used in knife fights, yet neither one is considered a "fighting folder."
 
Rick said:
Can you provide some real world examples of alternative interpretations?

As soon as you pull a potentially lethal weapon on another human being, you're either responding with, threatening or employing deadly force. Either way, you'll most likely end up terribly injured and/or facing dire legal consequences (manslaughter charges, if you're lucky, but probably prison) or dead. If you think you can "fight" (i.e., have a duel with) your adversary with impunity, you've been watching way too much TV.
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I believe I did when I said self defense tools.

I don't believe I said anything about dueling with an opponent and I did say it was far from ideal, but as limited by law, it's the only option for some people. I hope to god to never need to use a knife for SD, cause that means a lot of shit has gone wrong leading up to it.

Living in LA it's probably hard for you to see it any other way (knives are used in a lot of gang violence, no?)

yoko said:
Is that a .22 , do you do a lot of night time plinking?
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That my friend is the real deal, he's a Mexican Federale (or something like that)

-sh00ter
 
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Just asked a question, and I dont like to dig lol

I know many law enforcement, marines, seals etc

didn't mean to sound rude
 
Rick,
I've been in in two "knife fights" in my life. That's 2 too many. The first was over before I knew it had started. I got stabbed through my left hand with a steak knife. I thought it was a fist fight. I was wrong!
The second was with a guy that didn't like me talking to his girl and pulled his knife. Trying to scare me I guess. I pulled mine and he got stabbed about an inch from his left kidney.

All this proves is that (A) any knife you can get to in a fight is your fighting knife. And (B) not everyone who uses a knife to hurt another human being ends up in jail.
 
Anything sharp and/or pointy can be used to disrupt human tissue. However, certain characteristics make a knife better suited to that task. Look for the following:

Solid lock

Ease/speed of presentation

Handle shape that keeps your hand securely in place

An opening method that doesn't require fine motor skills.

A long enough blade to penetrate layers of clothing and still reach high value targets

Then - keep it sharp and well maintained and draw it several times per day, everyday.
 
seth said:
some knives have been designed with the intent to be used for knife fighting/combat knife training/etc. they usually feature a more positive grip, in a neutral non reflective color, some of them feature a blade coating, with a blade designed with slashing and stabbing in mind, and a very strong lock. a lot of thought will go into some of these builds, and you can feel how comfortable the knife is to use in various grips, it usually also will conform well to your body,allowing it to be carried very discretely.

, then certain knife companys look at them, add on a dozen scary looking but useless features, and call them a fighting folder.
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This brings to mind the original design philosophy behind the Benchmade AFCK. Chris Caracci had some very interesting insight into why the AFCK was made the way it was (as a fighting folder).

On the flipside, Fred Perrin and Laci Szabo both consider the Douk Douk to be a fighting knife, and to their credit I do see why it makes sense to train with super low-tech equipment in case that's all you end up with.

It all depends. Which I think is what you'll probably learn from all this.
 
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