What other folders compare to the Sebenza?

u812 said:
I do not think much about rust and I do wish some of the high end knives were offered with carbon steel.
One thing that makes me think that the Police is no where colse to the Sebie besides the pivot is tip and lock strength.I have seen more than a few posts about the lock on the Police breaking under normal use.
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That too.:D
 
Walking Man said:
One thing that I've always GREATLY disliked about the sebenza is the finish on the handle. It scratches WAY too easily for a knife in that price range. There's no reason that CRK can't use a courser bead blast, or some other type of process to prevent scratching. The fine bead blast they use is just lame. IMO this is ridiculous for a knife in this price point. I've had Ti handled knives that were around 100x more scratch resistant than the good ol' seb.
Sorry to trash a knife in it's own forum..... It is really a great knife, but I think this is it's greatest failure.
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Does anyone else have anything to comment on this issue? I'd like to hear what others think about this. As a comparison, the Buck/Mayo titanium handle seems to be MUCH more scratch resistant.
 
I imagine what you'll find is that sebenzas appeal to practical people who understand as a matter of course knives that get used get scratches. Scratch resistence is not so much an issue. At least for me.

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DaveH said:
I imagine what you'll find is that sebenzas appeal to practical people who understand as a matter of course knives that get used get scratches. Scratch resistence is not so much an issue. At least for me.
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Maybe one day they'll offer an alternative rougher bead blast.
A big part of this issue for me is also that the knife handle feels chalky, like running your fingernails down a chalkboard. A little rougher finish would really do it for me. I could always get this done as a custom modification, but I don't think I should have to.
If anyone else would prefer a rougher finish, speak up!
 
Walking Man said:
Does anyone else have anything to comment on this issue? I'd like to hear what others think about this. As a comparison, the Buck/Mayo titanium handle seems to be MUCH more scratch resistant.
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I guess it seems pretty ridiculous to compare a titanium handle to a titanium handle for scratch resistance. They both will mar the same, though the Buck Mayo is more of a satin finish and the standard Sebenza is bead blasted. The Seb being darker will show marks easier. Ya think?
:rolleyes:
 
blackend said:
I guess it seems pretty ridiculous to compare a titanium handle to a titanium handle for scratch resistance. They both will mar the same, though the Buck Mayo is more of a satin finish and the standard Sebenza is bead blasted. The Seb being darker will show marks easier. Ya think?
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No I think you are absolutely wrong. They do not mar the same. It takes a lot more to scratch up other Ti handles than a Seb. I know I have done it many times. You can feel that the Buck/Mayo has a rougher finish, and will conceal the scratches more easily. Same thing with a stone washed vs. polished blade. If you think I'm being ridiculous, then I think that you're probably speaking without having handled a few of these for any length of time.
Let me make this absolutly clear. A good real life analogy might be like finding a golf ball or even a club in high grass vs. finding one on a green.
 
I believe a rougher bead blast would only decrease scratch resistance. The rougher ths bead blast, the higher the peaks are versus the valleys and the easier it becomes to break off the peaks. The bead blast on the TNT is finer than the sebenza, a more even surface, hence easier to scratch. The more coarse bead blast used by CRK offers a more grippy handle, so it is a trade off in that regard.

I think of scratches on sebbie handles as a non-issue because you can just scotch brite it.
 
"You can feel that the Buck/Mayo has a rougher finish, and will conceal the scratches more easily."

Walking Man,

Your absolutly right, and I'm absolutly wrong. Even though I've handled both these knives quite extensively, you seem to be the expert on these things here. Well titanium anyway.
I guess by the above comment you made, you emphasized my point. Even though they both scratch "the same" the Mayo will conceal(because of the finish) more easily.
I'll be careful in the future on how I phase my comments...Oh, and to read the others closely first. ;)
 
Blackend, I mean no disrespect, and you are perfect allowed to disagree with me, but a little tact goes a long way.
I am sure you can appreciate the fact that having your words called "pretty ridiculous" as you wrote might be called a little insulting. We're both here for intellegent discussion. So, play nice. Thanks.
 
Rosconey said " used a wire wheel on mine-love it "

I did this on a nice stainless steel motorcycle component once, to get a neat finish. The thing rusted up overnight! I just didn't think it through and put a thin layer of ferrous on the outside of the stainless- Doh!

Beware of the wire wheel type. HTH, Phil. :-)
 
I'm in agreement w/you Walking Man -- to a degree --- in that it does bother me a bit to see them all scratched up... I've only had 3, but my polished small wood inlay sebenza has held up (in finish) much better than the bead blasted ones...so far. It may just be my perception though, as I've only carried it daily for a few months...

IF CRK offered something that was more scratch resistant, i would definitely want it. But even as is, I'm going to keep carrying the sebbie -- best folder i've found so far. :D


I think of scratches on sebbie handles as a non-issue because you can just scotch brite it.
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Can you give a little more detail / instruction? Up/down or circular motion? Dry or w/a solution. Or does anyone have any before/after pics?

Thanks for the help!!! :thumbup: :D :D
 
thanks, i think i'll give it a try --- will let you know how it turns out! :thumbup:
 
From u812:
I have seen more than a few posts about the lock on the Police breaking under normal use.
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I'll do a search, but if you know where you saw these posts, please provide some links.
I've never heard of any Spyderco lock breaking under "normal use".
 
EXFATBOY said:
Rosconey said " used a wire wheel on mine-love it "

I did this on a nice stainless steel motorcycle component once, to get a neat finish. The thing rusted up overnight! I just didn't think it through and put a thin layer of ferrous on the outside of the stainless- Doh!

Beware of the wire wheel type. HTH, Phil. :-)
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sebenza hlds up to the wheel real nice-been a few months and its been plenty humid-looks like the day i did it-also shows no scratch's
 
allenC said:
From u812:


I'll do a search, but if you know where you saw these posts, please provide some links.
I've never heard of any Spyderco lock breaking under "normal use".
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Mostly on the Spyderco forum.
The search does not work very well over there but I have been a member there for several years with over 5000 posts and have seen many lock problems posted and have had a few myself.I am not bashing Spyderco,just saying that they are really not on par with the Sebenza and for the price differance they shouldn't be.
One post IIRC had to do with someone in the Airforce that used a Police to cut away a strap off a load they were dropping from an aircraft and the lock bar snapped.
 
JoHnYKwSt said:
Xaman,
I do mine with a little water and lengthwise to the handle. Doing this will cause light scratches. It will look like a satin finish. Please do it at your own risk! Here's a thread on the procedure. My sebenza does not look nearly as polished as the one in the pic because I just do it enough to remove the scratches, then repeat as needed.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347305&highlight=scotch+brite
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Hmm, looks good. I might have to try that. Thanks for the hint. :thumbup:
 
I got my first Sebenza in December of 1993. It was a righty. I use a knife lefty most of the time. Since then, I've owned 9 Sebenzas. In between those nine, I'd purchase a custom folder, sell the Sebenza, find the custom inadequate, and ended up purchasing another Sebenza. I've finally learned my lesson. I'm sticking to the Sebenza. I don't know of any other maker who supplies a tool for the owner to disassemble the folder. In some cases, if you disassemble other folders, you void the warranty. I am currently unaware of other folders where the pivot is designed to where you hand-tighten the bolt, torque it all the way down and the blade glides smoothly to the open or closed position. Other folders have Locktite added so that the user doesn't adjust the pivot bolt. Yet others require that the owner fine-tune the tightness of the pivot in order to get optimum glide when opening and closing the blade. You don't need to do that with the Sebenza. One of my favorite Sebenza features is the fact that if I should ever lose the one I have now (I hope not!), I can get another one and it will be of the same quality, if not better than, the one I lost. You can't guarantee that will happen with other folders.
 
Oh, I see...you pay $200.00+ more dollars for the ability to disassemble without breaking a warranty, and to have a pivot that can be tightened all the way down.

Well, heck, now it all makes sense!:rolleyes:
 
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