What's so special about the Busses?

[sketchbag]

If you read the entire thread you will learn that Busse has 3 companies and you can get a knife for well less than $200. Reasonable for a quality piece of kit. Hell my boots are $375 its in reason a decent knife can be $100-200. My opinion only of course.

Skam

I know, and the scrap yard knives look like good value. I really dont think the tread starter was referring to those lines of busse knives, but rather the flag ship models sold under the name Busse.

 

[Myal]

For all those interested in cutting through car doors perhaps you would be better served with a hammer and chisel! And for the record yes a becker will chop through the softer metals such as car doors and hoods that steel is great stuff i have tested the bk7 and bk9 on two old cars. However no knife is designed to chop on cars!

I dont make knives for chopping on cars , but do make them for opening the panels up to give access to the lock rods , and for prying the doors while the rods are yanked to release the lock

that they also whittle wood and slice tomatos is bonus

FWIW , chopping on a car is IME likely to produce sparks , a bad thing if yo are opening a wreck when there is spilt or leaking fuel

a hammer and chisel is even more likely to produce sparks .. still not good

BUT if its just about having a dam tough knife that you can wantonly chop into and vandalise vehicles with because well , ya can ... I guess that you could be right , I dont know of anyone either who makes knives designed for chopping cars ....

 

[Thomas Linton]

. . . The absolute best knife you have is the one you have with you and the one you know how to use.

I don't see this statement as inconsistent with trying to "have" the best you have decided on for the tasks you think most likely and most important -- or if not "best," at least good enough.

I join those who have expressed the notion that disagreeing with another's opinion as to "best" or "good enough" is fair game -- while personal attacks detract from the atmosphere, discourage participation, and tend to reduce the weight to be given the opinions of the attacker.

 

[thatmguy]

I have two words for the hog avatar guy, he knows what they are.

Please, give us more September 11, 2001 emotional claptrap. :jerkit:

Again with the personal attacks...

I'm fat and bald too, wanna take a couple jabs at that.

Tell us about the knives bubba, why or why not, it is very simple.

How sad....

 

[ilbruche]

I think Busse is a smart company.

Produce a high quality attractive product, but produce very few of them.

Sure they could expand and crank them out if they wanted to. But would the quality remain? Who knows.

By limiting production they are always in demand. Thus they will remain in business.

If a Busse cost 1/3 as much would it still hold the same appeal? Would people still collect them if everyone could afford to own twenty of the same model. I doubt it.

I think they have found the perfect niche of producing a "superior hand crafted tool".

 

[sketchbag]

If a Busse cost 1/3 as much would it still hold the same appeal? Would people still collect them if everyone could afford to own twenty of the same model. I doubt it.

This is why I say it's the price that makes them special. I think people buy them to be part of an "exclusive club" as much (or more so, considering how many people buy them to not use them) as to have a high quality tool.

 

[Don Rearic]

Again with the personal attacks...

Oh please, get off of the cross already. You have an avatar with a pig on it and the fact I point this out instead of using your fictitious name is somehow perceived as a "personal attack?"

I'm fat and bald too, wanna take a couple jabs at that.

I don't really care if you are fat, bald, short, black, skinny, plaid or polka-dotted.

Tell us about the knives bubba, why or why not, it is very simple.

Why or why not WHAT?

If you were not so defensive you would understand that what I take issue with is the way people represent the knives.

I might point out that bellyaching about the Red Cross or September 11, 2001 is not really PROOF of anything, either.

Tell us about WHAT knives? Seems to me like all of these Busse threads end up like this, why is that? You are all-seeing and all-knowing and everyone else, The Great Unwashed, don't know about knives?

You are one of the mildest Busse supporters, I have no idea why on earth you are contributing to this thread anyway. I don't have a problem with people who own Busses, not all of them can be lying and I believe the knives have merit but I don't buy into the rest of the KOOL-AID sales that you NEED one in order to come out of a bad incident alive and well.

My Number One "Survival Knife" if you wish to call it that is usually a Benchmade Mini-RSK, Leatherman WAVE, Al Mar SERE 2000, a Hunter SAK or something quite similar. In fixed blades, which I do not always carry because I cannot always carry them, I have a Becker 7, a Becker Necker and a Benchmade Ritter fixed blade. What I write about and what I think people can utilize in an emergency does not necessarily equal what I have been "saddled with" around here by a few people.

The earlier information about the heat treat and being around a campfire was quite interesting but even though it is interesting I fail to see where this is something critical with regard to a knife purchase.

How sad....

Yes, it is at times.

Make it better.

Inform people how the purchase of a Busse - Whatever Model - would serve them so much better than the Ontario RTAK, RAT-7 and RAT-3 (At a good dealer, you could possibly get all three of them for the cost of a large Busse.) would in the real world away from Cliff Stamp BS "Tests" and other fanciful cutlery phantasms these brick-breaking, concrete-cretins are blabbing on and on about.

I don't have anything against them, I don't think they are the absolute be-all, end-all to bladeware, either. I don't think such a knife EXISTS no matter who makes it.

 

[ilbruche]

This is why I say it's the price that makes them special. I think people buy them to be part of an "exclusive club" as much (or more so, considering how many people buy them to not use them) as to have a high quality tool.

You'll find collectors at all income levels. In this society the trend is to collect the most expensive thing you can afford. Lots of brands have fanatical followings, like Bark River.

People have the right to do whatever they want with their money. But the argument that something is "the best" because it can be used in all sorts of absurd scenarios just makes me laugh. Things like prying boulders off legs, yeah right.

I personally associate Busse with Hummer. Nice, but not really necessary. What percentage of owners ever use them off road? Sure it may be a stupid analogy, but it fits. I think the mentality is the same.

 

[Myal]

I personally associate Busse with Hummer. Nice, but not really necessary. What percentage of owners ever use them off road? Sure it may be a stupid analogy, but it fits. I think the mentality is the same.

Id go along with that ..

 

[skammer]

Id go along with that ..

Then agian I would rather have a military grade hummer for off road over a ford ranger. Hey if you gotta might as well want something capable. Same pricipal in knives.

Skam

 

[Thomas Linton]

I find my two Busse products (BA and SJ) to have good F&F but very thick edges and a rough coating that inetrferes with cutting anything even somewhat thick. They would take a lot of work to get to my idea of sharp. I hesitate to do that because it would destroy much of their value, so I dither. Plus, I already have lots of knives that cut just fine and are thick enough to survive a case of the clumsies.
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Totally off topic:

Common Don. Can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by Don Rearic
"I have two words for the hog avatar guy, he knows what they are. "

And those, Oh Wild One, would be? "Good Afternoon" perhaps? I'll bet they were personal, but you can correct me.

 

[sdt11670]

I dont make knives for chopping on cars , but do make them for opening the panels up to give access to the lock rods , and for prying the doors while the rods are yanked to release the lock

that they also whittle wood and slice tomatos is bonus

FWIW , chopping on a car is IME likely to produce sparks , a bad thing if yo are opening a wreck when there is spilt or leaking fuel

a hammer and chisel is even more likely to produce sparks .. still not good

BUT if its just about having a dam tough knife that you can wantonly chop into and vandalise vehicles with because well , ya can ... I guess that you could be right , I dont know of anyone either who makes knives designed for chopping cars ....

I was being sarcastic and i realize how it sounded but i didn't mean a life saving situation as in having to chop a car in half! I meant as in survival, however i have personally witnessed firemen hack through doors to free victim's from severely wrecked vehicles with gasoline and oil covering everything!

 

[ikkyo]

I personally associate Busse with Hummer. Nice, but not really necessary. What percentage of owners ever use them off road? Sure it may be a stupid analogy, but it fits. I think the mentality is the same.

I would choose a Landcruiser over a Hummer any time.
...but I own (very few) Busse's...

...back to knifes:
I would love to see a Busse without a big choil.

 

[Codger_64]

Perhaps this has already been asked and answered but I missed it during the foodfights:

What is the significance of the oinks, grunts and other porcine lingo, piggy names, and all of the images of pigs? What is up with that and what does it have to do with knives?

Just curious.

Codger

 

[Fonly]

If a Busse cost 1/3 as much would it still hold the same appeal? Would people still collect them if everyone could afford to own twenty of the same model. I doubt it.

I dont, look at Becker, when those knives went down look at the crowd who wanted one, and when they were around the sold like crazy. a great knife at an awsome price. If busse was 1/3 the price and same quality my entire collection, or most of it would be busse.

Like some have said I suspect,(im not going through pages upon pages of this thread)

If prices were lower and the wait wasn't so long I certainly would have some. mabye some day when I have more patients and more money Ill get one, until then other companys like Benchmade, Spyderco, fallkniven and heck even when Ethan Becker gets up an going again, thats where my money will be going, good knives a good prices.

 

[Myal]

Then agian I would rather have a military grade hummer for off road over a ford ranger. Hey if you gotta might as well want something capable. Same pricipal in knives.

Skam

I would rather a tank over a hummer

its capable of much more and is less likely to let me down when things get extreme and my life is dependant on my gear ......

BUT , while I know folk with hummers and others with tanks , I dont personally know anyone with a busse , I DID see a lot of pretty pictures of unused busse knives tho when I was looking to buy one .. just as all the hummer adds I seen read "never used offroad"

there seems to be a common theme here

Keep them looking pretty and worry about the resale value of them but dont actually use them

Both are unbelieveably hard to get hold of here ( when I tried anyway ) and the guys who have them dont do much with them at all anyway ...

this is only my opinion , based on what I have seen tho ...

 

[Thomas Linton]

I would rather a tank over a hummer

its capable of much more and is less likely to let me down when things get extreme and my life is dependant on my gear ......

Ah. Reasoning by analogy. Good.

Let's see, the tank gets really lousy mileage, can't cross a good many bridges, low top speed, and scares the #### out of folks. Terrible tool for filleting fish, removing a splinter, of carving a spoon - sorta like some knives.

 

[skammer]

Ok I want an A10 warthawg with depleted uranium HE INFI ammo please. Its the ultimate last stand vehicle I think. As long as we are playing this game.

Skam

 

[texastonydobbs]

LOL , page 8 ,sheesh , this needs to be moved to the wine & cheese, I like Rat knives as in Ontario... & Becker's , I have other but these are my Fav's (until my Pair of BF NWA's come in), I am going to purchase a Busse but it will be a Dumpster mutt or Swamp rat model,something I can afford(under $200),the other models are outta my $ range and I will not discredit or poke fun at someone because they can afford it and I can not.Great name / brand/ knife / Just not within reason for me.I still Dream of a O.D.Green hell razor !!!

 

[mneedham]

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