What's the deal with the psuedo-superiority attitude knife people have towards people

[shecky]

Trolling or not, Z80's point pretty much stands. I've made the same observation several times on the board. We are basically a bunch of geeks who tend to condescend to regular folks who don't feel much need to carry a knife. And I understand why. Here in the Western world, knives are not all that necessary a personal item, and becoming less so as time passes. As much of a knife nut as I am, there are days when I don't use one at all, or try to find every excuse to use one. For the most part, I carry a knife because I like to. And I'm quite grateful for living in a world so rich that doing so is more a hobby than a necessity.

What's even more interesting is the kind of group mentality that forms on this, and almost every board. On this board, it's entirely acceptable to be a knife geek, rant on sheeple, whine about laws, extoll the virtues of the latest steel or gimmick, etc. But it can go too far, and when it does, the very same knife nuts reverse direction and rant on the heretics as "mall ninjas". As with any group, the lines of segregation are set up, sometimes by the noisiest members, sometimes by the moderators, and deviation is punished.

 

[talontwo]

A lot of it has to do with the values you were taught when growing up. My father taught me to shoot, hunt, fish, camp, etc. I got my first knife when I was 8; along with a lesson in appreciating and taking care of it. It was, and is, a tool. Fortunately, we lived in a part of the country when you could be in the woods in 30 minutes. Some folks grew up in places where that was, and is, impossible. Some have parents with no knowledge or background to pass along such things.

I was selected by my friends and neighbors to serve in Vietnam. I'll never forget the tactical classes on hand to hand when a guy asked the training sargent what was the best knife to have in a fight. You all know the answer, "The one in your opponents hand, cause if you're half smart, you'll have the .45. You don't never wanna find yourself in a fair fight."

Greg

 

[Str8ShooterEsq]

I am superior and I like knives, but I don't think there is any causal relationship between the two.

 

[Homer49]

Trolling or not, Z80's point pretty much stands. I've made the same observation several times on the board. We are basically a bunch of geeks who tend to condescend to regular folks who don't feel much need to carry a knife. And I understand why. Here in the Western world, knives are not all that necessary a personal item, and becoming less so as time passes. As much of a knife nut as I am, there are days when I don't use one at all, or try to find every excuse to use one. For the most part, I carry a knife because I like to. And I'm quite grateful for living in a world so rich that doing so is more a hobby than a necessity.

What's even more interesting is the kind of group mentality that forms on this, and almost every board. On this board, it's entirely acceptable to be a knife geek, rant on sheeple, whine about laws, extoll the virtues of the latest steel or gimmick, etc. But it can go too far, and when it does, the very same knife nuts reverse direction and rant on the heretics as "mall ninjas". As with any group, the lines of segregation are set up, sometimes by the noisiest members, sometimes by the moderators, and deviation is punished.

Damn, couldn't have said it any better myself.

 

[rick43t3]

Trolling or not, Z80's point pretty much stands. I've made the same observation several times on the board. We are basically a bunch of geeks who tend to condescend to regular folks who don't feel much need to carry a knife. And I understand why. Here in the Western world, knives are not all that necessary a personal item, and becoming less so as time passes. As much of a knife nut as I am, there are days when I don't use one at all, or try to find every excuse to use one. For the most part, I carry a knife because I like to. And I'm quite grateful for living in a world so rich that doing so is more a hobby than a necessity.

What's even more interesting is the kind of group mentality that forms on this, and almost every board. On this board, it's entirely acceptable to be a knife geek, rant on sheeple, whine about laws, extoll the virtues of the latest steel or gimmick, etc. But it can go too far, and when it does, the very same knife nuts reverse direction and rant on the heretics as "mall ninjas". As with any group, the lines of segregation are set up, sometimes by the noisiest members, sometimes by the moderators, and deviation is punished.

I disagree entirely with your post. I am not a geek in any way,shape, or form. Seeing me, the last word to come to mind would be geek. I use knives every day, and I enjoy collecting and looking at them. I also enjoy the comradery, and useful information that is displayed on the Blade Forums.

 

[Homer49]

I disagree entirely with your post. I am not a geek by any shape or form. Seeing me, the last word to come to mind would be geek. I use knives every day, and I enjoy collecting and looking at them. I also enjoy the comradery, and useful information that is displayed on the Blade Forums.

Somebody who collects stamps might view themselves very differently than those who do not.

 

[rick43t3]

Just a returning troll. Who promised he would cause trouble.

No big deal.

I saw a couple other threads he started. Something about intimidating knives and some other nonesense. Now I see what trolls are very clearly. He was trying to start trouble or put down people on this forum.

 

[rick43t3]

Somebody who collects stamps might view themselves very differently than those who do not.

I do not understand what your point is. I understand what you have written, but why would someone be on Blade Forum if they are not a fan of knives, in some way or another?

 

[antonio_luiz]

Here in the Western world, knives are not all that necessary a personal item, and becoming less so as time passes.

I cannot agree with you on this. I have never regretted carrying a knife/multitool but have often regretted not carrying one. Even my ex who used to be terrified of knives took to carrying a small keyring SAK. It doesn't have to be a large tactical - my personal pref on EDC is a LM (currently an original Wave). Even when working in office environment I've lost count of the number of times I've pulled out a LM to do a job, even if it's only to remove a bit of torn paper out of a photocopier, pop a card out of a PC, tighten a screw on a pair of spectacles or cut open a package. This never alarmed the sheeples because they unconciously recognised that the knife was a tool and not a weapon. The problems arise only when the knife is viewed as a potential weapon and the type of knife and your own body language will contribute to that alarm.

 

[Homer49]

I do not understand what your point is. I understand what you have written, but why would someone be on Blade Forum if they are not a fan of knives, in some way or another?

I'm a fan of knives. Love knives. Carry a knife everyday.

I just don't feel the need to feel that I'm somehow superior to those who do not, especially when most people don't need to.

 

[powernoodle]

Knife folks rebel against "sheeple" in part because of the general feminization of American society. I have another word for it - that starts with p and ends with ussification - that I can't say here.

We're told by part of the culture - usually fat women, and manicured "men" who wear chinos with cuffs and penny loafers - that gun ownership is evil, that killing terrorists is bad, that only a savage would kill and eat a deer, that America is the source of all evil in the world, that Islam is a peaceful religion, that a fetus is not a living human baby, and that our SUVs are causing hurricanes.

Eventually, we tell these dimwits to cram it. Sometimes its happens when some fat divorced pig at the office (who can't get a date to save her life) recoils in horror when you have the temerity to open an envelope with a swiss army knife. Sometimes we just crack under the collective pressure of the world's harping idiots.

So when we have disdain for sheeple, its really a matter of what a psychologist (who probably wears chinos with cuffs and penny loafers by the way) would call transference. We are fighting back against the world's spineless, emasculated p***ies, and its is manifesting in the form of calling people "sheeple".

Once in a great while, a true pearl of wisdom emerges from my keyboard, and you just saw it happen. Mark this as a glorious day in the history of bladeforums.

:thumbup:

 

[rick43t3]

Oh I see. I don't think we are superior either, but I do think we as a group could be more prepared if the need to use a knife arises. Sometimes a kinife is a lifesaver. Think about a car that goes off the road on a snowy road, and the car flips upside down in a brook or swampy area. Cutting the seatbelts quickly could be the differance between life and death for the car's occupants. Also, a person who has a major wound that is bleeding, or in fact loses a limb, may need a tourniquet cut from clothing, etc. Making a fire using wood shavings is also hard to do without a knife to cut the wood. Someone trapped in a blizzard may need to build a fire to survive. A number of years ago some men got stuck on the road and their gas ran out. They couldn't build a fire and froze to death. These are comman enough occurances that do happen to people. I think about these things when I go hunting. What if I fall and get a compound fracture, what if I fall in a bog, etc. A knife is very handy in a survival situation.

 

[rick43t3]

Knife folks rebel against "sheeple" in part because of the general feminization of American society. I have another word for it - that starts with p and ends with ussification - that I can't say here.

We're told by part of the culture - usually fat women, and manicured "men" who wear chinos with cuffs and penny loafers - that gun ownership is evil, that killing terrorists is bad, that only a savage would kill and eat a deer, that America is the source of all evil in the world, that Islam is a peaceful religion, that a fetus is not a living human baby, and that our SUVs are causing hurricanes.

Eventually, we tell these dimwits to cram it. Sometimes its happens when some fat divorced pig at the office (who can't get a date to save her life) recoils in horror when you have the temerity to open an envelope with a swiss army knife. Sometimes we just crack under the collective pressure of the world's harping idiots.

So when we have disdain for sheeple, its really a matter of what a psychologist (who probably wears chinos with cuffs and penny loafers by the way) would call transference. We are fighting back against the world's spineless, emasculated p***ies, and its is manifesting in the form of calling people "sheeple".

Once in a great while, a true pearl of wisdom emerges from my keyboard, and you just saw it happen. Mark this as a glorious day in the history of bladeforums.

:thumbup:

Very well put I may add. You hit the nail on the head. Remember the Sopranos episodes where Tony was asking, what happen to Gary Cooper. The strong silent types. I remember when I was a kid, my dad was someone you looked up to. He and almost all the other men were strong and very manly. Now I see "men" who you just don't know about. Alot of them don't wear the pants, if you get catch my drift.

 

[shecky]

I disagree entirely with your post. I am not a geek in any way,shape, or form. Seeing me, the last word to come to mind would be geek. I use knives every day, and I enjoy collecting and looking at them. I also enjoy the comradery, and useful information that is displayed on the Blade Forums.

I'm hoping you forgot to add the *wink* smilie.

I cannot agree with you on this. I have never regretted carrying a knife/multitool but have often regretted not carrying one. Even my ex who used to be terrified of knives took to carrying a small keyring SAK. It doesn't have to be a large tactical - my personal pref on EDC is a LM (currently an original Wave). Even when working in office environment I've lost count of the number of times I've pulled out a LM to do a job, even if it's only to remove a bit of torn paper out of a photocopier, pop a card out of a PC, tighten a screw on a pair of spectacles or cut open a package.

I don't regret carrying a knife at all times, either. But I recognize that it's not a matter of survival and often not even convenience. For the most part I would get along fine without carrying any personal cutlery. If course, it does come in handy. And of course, someone who regularly needs tools as part of their job probably carries the appropriate tools. However, modern conveniences have eliminated much of the need for the average layperson, and will continue to do so.

A recurring theme around here is one of preparedness. For whatever/anything. Another theme that turns up is the notion that such preparedness depends on hardware, carrying a knife (among other things). I posit that preparedness must not depend on hardware, but on software, the kind you have in your brain.

 

[Absintheur]

Fact is by using derogatory terms like "sheeple" you are committing an type of racism. Carrying a knife is like carrying a firearm...it is a personal choice and those who choose not to shouldn't be looked down on or be called names. Even here on the forums between knife owners there are some rather silly caste associations. For example the attitude of some who think you aren't a serious knife person if you don't own a Sebenza, or you are stupid if you buy a Cold Steel product.

Calling people names who don't agree with the way you think is not only non-productive, it can actually drive people away from the forums who came looking to find out what is interesting to us, instead of a convert we have made an enemy.

I don't feel superior to anyone in particular and sub par to anyone...I am who I am and I am happy with that. I don't need to insult other people to boost my ego.

 

[stabman]

Trolling or not, Z80's point pretty much stands.

He had no good point at all.
He was a pure pain in the rear end, and proved his lack of wanting a good discussion by berating the use of a tool for its intended purpose(cutting stuff).

 

[shecky]

Knife folks rebel against "sheeple" in part because of the general feminization of American society. I have another word for it - that starts with p and ends with ussification - that I can't say here.

We're told by part of the culture - usually fat women, and manicured "men" who wear chinos with cuffs and penny loafers - that gun ownership is evil, that killing terrorists is bad, that only a savage would kill and eat a deer, that America is the source of all evil in the world, that Islam is a peaceful religion, that a fetus is not a living human baby, and that our SUVs are causing hurricanes.

Eventually, we tell these dimwits to cram it. Sometimes its happens when some fat divorced pig at the office (who can't get a date to save her life) recoils in horror when you have the temerity to open an envelope with a swiss army knife. Sometimes we just crack under the collective pressure of the world's harping idiots.

So when we have disdain for sheeple, its really a matter of what a psychologist (who probably wears chinos with cuffs and penny loafers by the way) would call transference. We are fighting back against the world's spineless, emasculated p***ies, and its is manifesting in the form of calling people "sheeple".

Once in a great while, a true pearl of wisdom emerges from my keyboard, and you just saw it happen. Mark this as a glorious day in the history of bladeforums.

This is pretty weak sauce. You get to tell off the sheeple, whine about how they're keeping you down, but not actually do anything about them. Your fight is all words, your enemies are all straw.

Very well put I may add. You hit the nail on the head. Remember the Sopranos episodes where Tony was asking, what happen to Gary Cooper. The strong silent types. I remember when I was a kid, my dad was someone you looked up to. He and almost all the other men were strong and very manly. Now I see "men" who you just don't know about. Alot of them don't wear the pants, if you get catch my drift.

Gary Cooper played make believe for a living, and Tony Soprano is a fiction. Now we're supposed to take your cues from all the effeminate Hollywood crators?

 

[rick43t3]

He had no good point at all.
He was a pure pain in the rear end, and proved his lack of wanting a good discussion by berating the use of a tool for its intended purpose(cutting stuff).

That's right buddy. I don't know why people are talking bad about knives here. We like them and we don't talk bad about them. I guess we must respect others opinions though, even if we disagree.

 

[stabman]

I'm hoping you forgot to add the *wink* smilie.


A recurring theme around here is one of preparedness. For whatever/anything. Another theme that turns up is the notion that such preparedness depends on hardware, carrying a knife (among other things). I posit that preparedness must not depend on hardware, but on software, the kind you have in your brain.

For the first part quoted, WHY do you hope that?
For the second part, how good is your brain at cutting open boxes, seatbelts, and wires?
NO ONE said having a brain was a bad thing(my brain occasionally gets me money), but with out SOME form of tools, your brain will not get you too far.
Try making a phone call without a phone(just use your brain).
Next time that screw needs to be screwed into place, forget the screwdriver, and use your brain to twist it.
Why not cut your steak with your barin?
Get the idea?

 

[rick43t3]

This is pretty weak sauce. You get to tell off the sheeple, whine about how they're keeping you down, but not actually do anything about them. Your fight is all words, your enemies are all straw.



Gary Cooper played make believe for a living, and Tony Soprano is a fiction. Now we're supposed to take your cues from all the effeminate Hollywood crators?

Very true, but in the context of what I wrote I was using Gary Cooper, or the characters he portrayed as manly. Just like somebody is to refered to as a John Wayne type. I hope you like John Wayne.