What's the deal with the psuedo-superiority attitude knife people have towards people

rick43t3 said:
That's right buddy. I don't know why people are talking bad about knives here. We like them and we don't talk bad about them. I guess we must respect others opinions though, even if we disagree.:)
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For sure.:)
I don't know why some people would frequent a knife forum and disparage knives.:confused:
It truly DOES confuse me.
 
There's a difference between someone politely questioning someone carrying a very large knife and people who think you're planning to kill them all because you have a SAK. Part of it is your own behaviour, but it is stupid when you see how lax people are about drinking and driving which kills and injures far more people than all knives together much less pocket knives alone. I agree that some knife users don't act very reasonably, but many do and still get weird reactions even when it is obvious what they are doing.

For example, I was working with a group doing Katrina reconstruction in New Orleans, and on a rain day we were fixing up the building that Habitat for Humanity used to house its volunteers. We had tons of stuff in boxes, wrapping, and binding that took all day to unpack, and I loaned out a handful of knives (like I'd been doing the ENTIRE time I was there) and despite the circumstances one girl looked at me at told me how dangerous my knife was. Did any of the power tools or large hammers being flung around by people who'd never used them before faze her at all? No. It's irrational and irritating. If I were a serial killer, why would I be at a service event for two and a half weeks?

Especially when you add multitools into the mix, it's sad to see people in apex of human technology using their teeth and fingernails to rip something open or otherwise modify it. I know it's impossible to be entirely self-sufficient, but people that don't know how to fix a flat tire, or cook any meal, do their own laundry (my freshman year room mate), or similar things are a bit sad. I don't claim to be an expert, but some people can't even begin to help themselves with very basic tasks. There are people that have used a computer for years but can't fix ANYTHING on it, no matter how many times they've seen the problem or been shown how to fix it. It's just easier to wait for help.

I think it's symptomatic of a society that tells women to yell "FIRE!" instead of "HELP! RAPE!" in a city, or stands around and does nothing while someone is attacked in broad daylight without even calling the police, or relies on the government to raise their children and take care of them or bailout their business.

We don't respect people that can take care of themselves or are problem solvers. THAT'S sheep behavior, although I do agree that the term sheeple is overused and overly derogatory.
 
Absintheur said:
Fact is by using derogatory terms like "sheeple" you are committing an type of racism. Carrying a knife is like carrying a firearm...it is a personal choice and those who choose not to shouldn't be looked down on or be called names. Even here on the forums between knife owners there are some rather silly caste associations. For example the attitude of some who think you aren't a serious knife person if you don't own a Sebenza, or you are stupid if you buy a Cold Steel product.

Calling people names who don't agree with the way you think is not only non-productive, it can actually drive people away from the forums who came looking to find out what is interesting to us, instead of a convert we have made an enemy.

I don't feel superior to anyone in particular and sub par to anyone...I am who I am and I am happy with that. I don't need to insult other people to boost my ego.
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Good post. Though I don't think saying "sheeple" is a type of racism, I do think it's a childish tag to put on some people just because they don't share the same views as you do.

I go on a bodybuilding messageboard to get tips on diet and lifting weights. And over there, it's also a subculture of individuals who look down on anyone who doesn't work out. Remember, some of these people will cancel going to dates, family outings, and activities with friends if those events don't fall in line with their planned "bodybuilding" meal schedules and workout routines. They'll call people who don't spend all their time counting every calorie in a chicken breast or pounds on a barbell a loser because they'd rather work on a successful career or sit down to a nice fattening holiday dinner. And yet, to them, other people are the geeks.
 
Because too often a non-knife person get herself in situations like this where having a simple SAK would've saved her a lot of grief.

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1208/578224.html

Plus, these people are often the same ones who ask you why you carry a knife, seconds after they've used your knife to open a package.
 
Absintheur said:
I don't feel superior to anyone in particular and sub par to anyone...I am who I am and I am happy with that. I don't need to insult other people to boost my ego.
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The real fact is by using derogatory terms like "committing an type of racism" you are overheating the discussion. People do divide into interest groups, and not all groups are exclusionary. Races are groups formed by ineradicable characteristics, not personal interests.

Bladeforums has people who depend on knives and people who enjoy them, and people who gripe about the discussions themselves. But we don't all push people out for disagreeing. shecky has been around a while and Homer49 is defending non-knife people, too.

Absintheur said:
Calling people names who don't agree with the way you think is not only non-productive, it can actually drive people away from the forums who came looking to find out what is interesting to us, instead of a convert we have made an enemy.
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"Sheeple" aren't people who don't use knives, or even people who don't like knives used around them. They are people who take an active interest in denying others the right to use tools -- or weapons -- that they themselves don't use, for whatever their reasons might be.

I doubt many if any of them come here willing to be converted. We have seen a few thinly disguised as open-minded who had no intention of learning anything. Like Z80, they came to mock our interest. (Z80 was banned as a returning troll.)
 
Esav Benyamin said:
"Sheeple" aren't people who don't use knives, or even people who don't like knives used around them. They are people who take an active interest in denying others the right to use tools -- or weapons -- that they themselves don't use, for whatever their reasons might be.
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Exactly.
I know plenty of people who don't carry knives, but they don't hassle me for carrying one, and they are happy I have one when something needs to be cut. They are not "sheeple", and get no ire rising in me.
They DO think it's a tad odd how much some of my knives cost though.:D
 
Absintheur said:
Fact is by using derogatory terms like "sheeple" you are committing an type of racism. Carrying a knife is like carrying a firearm...it is a personal choice and those who choose not to shouldn't be looked down on or be called names.
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WTF, racism? Really? That's probably the best example of misusing the word since I saw the video of a councilman upset over the term "black hole." :foot:

Sheeple is actually a broad term that isn't specifically related to knives. It is used very frequently. mostly in political discussions. The term simply denotes persons who are unerringly trusting in others (the govt, their party, people who can actually use tools) to take care of them and also who are irrationally fearful of something, like guns or knives. It is a derogatory term because these are not qualities we hold in high regard. It does not generically refer to people who don't carry knives. It does not generically refer to people who don't know S90V from a lampshade.
 
Alot of women like to buy jewlery. Alot of men like to buy knives. What else can we spend our money on and enjoy ourselves? Men like guns and knives I have found. Some women do too, but not as much as men I think. Men like to have a few drinks also. They like pizza, and watching football and baseball, and watching John Wayne movies. There is nothing wrong with these things, at all.:thumbup:
 
Absintheur said:
you are committing an type of racism
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Please don't take this the wrong way :), but that has to be the goofiest thing I have ever heard on bladeforums. People who have an unnatural phobia of sharp things are not a race. They may properly be described in many ways (as I did brilliantly in my first post), but the victims of racism they are not.


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This is one strong example of why everyone should carry a knife.

I don't look down on those who don't carry because they don't carry. I merely believe that people would be better prepared if they did and I politely express this belief to those willing to listen. :)
 
powernoodle said:
Knife folks rebel against "sheeple" in part because of the general feminization of American society. I have another word for it - that starts with p and ends with ussification - that I can't say here.

We're told by part of the culture - usually fat women, and manicured "men" who wear chinos with cuffs and penny loafers - that gun ownership is evil, that killing terrorists is bad, that only a savage would kill and eat a deer, that America is the source of all evil in the world, that Islam is a peaceful religion, that a fetus is not a living human baby, and that our SUVs are causing hurricanes.

Eventually, we tell these dimwits to cram it. Sometimes its happens when some fat divorced pig at the office (who can't get a date to save her life) recoils in horror when you have the temerity to open an envelope with a swiss army knife. Sometimes we just crack under the collective pressure of the world's harping idiots.

So when we have disdain for sheeple, its really a matter of what a psychologist (who probably wears chinos with cuffs and penny loafers by the way) would call transference. We are fighting back against the world's spineless, emasculated p***ies, and its is manifesting in the form of calling people "sheeple".

Once in a great while, a true pearl of wisdom emerges from my keyboard, and you just saw it happen. Mark this as a glorious day in the history of bladeforums.

:) :thumbup:
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Damned well said, sir!
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
This is one strong example of why everyone should carry a knife.

I don't look down on those who don't carry because they don't carry. I merely believe that people would be better prepared if they did and I politely express this belief to those willing to listen. :)
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That's one ugly f*ing folder though.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
"Sheeple" aren't people who don't use knives, or even people who don't like knives used around them. They are people who take an active interest in denying others the right to use tools -- or weapons -- that they themselves don't use, for whatever their reasons might be..)
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Just the words I was looking for.
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
This is one strong example of why everyone should carry a knife.

I don't look down on those who don't carry because they don't carry. I merely believe that people would be better prepared if they did and I politely express this belief to those willing to listen. :)
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That is just what I had posted about (a few posts back), cutting away seat belts of someone trapped in a car. This example was slightly differant, but it demonstates a very good reason for people to carry knives. I really truthfully do not understand how someone can not see the great advantage to carrying a knife at all times. Very good video, and a good outcome for the young boy, because someone was carrying a knife.:thumbup:
 
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