what's with everyone bashing slipjoints?

Ken44 said:
Don't know where you heard it, but I've never heard any slipjoint bashing:confused:

I love them, and think most of us true knife nuts like many types of knives.....well except for those tacticool ones:p
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Ken, I was just wondering yesterday where you'd gotten to 'round these parts. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.
 
I'd like the OP to list the names of everyone he's encountered who has bashed slipjoints. Then I'd like to see links to all threads and posts in the forums that bash slipjoints. It ought to be a very long list since it includes "everyone." ;)
 
My guess is that the OP has run up on folks who have poo-pooed slipjoints face-to-face. From that sampling of two or three, he's extrapolated out to the general population. Fact is, however, here at BFC, folks tend to appreciate a good slipjoint.
 
I like all knives including serrated plastic butter knives. What I don't understand is why there is so much disdain and or hatred from some people when it comes to a certain brand or style of knife. If you don't care for slip joints or locking harduse folders or fantasy knives, then don't buy any. there is absolutely no reason to go on a bashing campaign against them or any other style or brand or color just because it doesn't appeal to you. I see so many members ready to argue and be ugly regarding this issue. The old "Fanboy" syndrome!!! People making fun of knives someone else owns because they don't like it yet going on a nuclear defensive when someone bashes their favorite brand or style. I have owned a few knives in my day and I have some favorites for sure, but I can't think of a knife I have ever hated. If I saw a knife somewhere that I was sure wasn't for me I just figured there has got to be someone out there who will like it. People are different and have different taste and needs in certain items. It's that simple. The people who make comments such as serrated knives or tanto knives or black bladed tactical knives should never have been made make me laugh in the sad sorta way. It's a type of censorship as far as I'm concerned when folks get nasty like that. I enjoy this site for the love of all knives, even the ones I know are not for me...;)
 
babakanoosh45 said:
I like all knives including serrated plastic butter knives. What I don't understand is why there is so much disdain and or hatred from some people when it comes to a certain brand or style of knife. If you don't care for slip joints or locking harduse folders or fantasy knives, then don't buy any. there is absolutely no reason to go on a bashing campaign against them or any other style or brand or color just because it doesn't appeal to you. I see so many members ready to argue and be ugly regarding this issue. The old "Fanboy" syndrome!!! People making fun of knives someone else owns because they don't like it yet going on a nuclear defensive when someone bashes their favorite brand or style. I have owned a few knives in my day and I have some favorites for sure, but I can't think of a knife I have ever hated. If I saw a knife somewhere that I was sure wasn't for me I just figured there has got to be someone out there who will like it. People are different and have different taste and needs in certain items. It's that simple. The people who make comments such as serrated knives or tanto knives or black bladed tactical knives should never have been made make me laugh in the sad sorta way. It's a type of censorship as far as I'm concerned when folks get nasty like that. I enjoy this site for the love of all knives, even the ones I know are not for me...;)
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Well... except for Cold Steel... right? ;) :D :p
 
TheCarbideRat said:
which ones are those?
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Name one. Companies spend wayyyyy too much money on developing locks that attempt to replicate the durability of a fixed blade, but will always fall short. Moving parts means wear. KISS-use the right tool for the job. Folders are fine for convenient cutting, but these BUCK/TOPS folders, big ZT's, HEST folder, the Griptilian... all these 'hard use' folders for outdoors you're paying excess money just for that lock that still won't hold up to the abuse a fixed blade can. This is why slipjoints, friction locks and other traditional blades are perfectly sufficient for their roles-slicing/cutting tasks.
 
TheCarbideRat said:
And? what??
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That's pretty much it. I've yet to encounter someone who simply starts talking trash about slip joints. However, there's a multitude of people who like to explain that having a lock is, while not essential, very useful. Perhaps you might be reading too much into what I'm saying. I'm just trying to explain that, while locks can be quite useful, for me, they often just get in the way. Most of my pocket knife tasks are for delicate slicing, rather than chopping. If I wanted to do some harder work, there's usually a mora around close by.
 
Guyon said:
My guess is that the OP has run up on folks who have poo-pooed slipjoints face-to-face. From that sampling of two or three, he's extrapolated out to the general population. Fact is, however, here at BFC, folks tend to appreciate a good slipjoint.
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babakanoosh45 said:
I like all knives including serrated plastic butter knives. What I don't understand is why there is so much disdain and or hatred from some people when it comes to a certain brand or style of knife. If you don't care for slip joints or locking harduse folders or fantasy knives, then don't buy any. there is absolutely no reason to go on a bashing campaign against them or any other style or brand or color just because it doesn't appeal to you. I see so many members ready to argue and be ugly regarding this issue. The old "Fanboy" syndrome!!! People making fun of knives someone else owns because they don't like it yet going on a nuclear defensive when someone bashes their favorite brand or style. I have owned a few knives in my day and I have some favorites for sure, but I can't think of a knife I have ever hated. If I saw a knife somewhere that I was sure wasn't for me I just figured there has got to be someone out there who will like it. People are different and have different taste and needs in certain items. It's that simple. The people who make comments such as serrated knives or tanto knives or black bladed tactical knives should never have been made make me laugh in the sad sorta way. It's a type of censorship as far as I'm concerned when folks get nasty like that. I enjoy this site for the love of all knives, even the ones I know are not for me...;)
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Well said. :thumbup:

I confess that I was quite surprised that anyone would suggest a disdain for slip-joints on BF. In fact, I can't recall a single post where slip-joints are not held in esteem.
 
PayetteRucker said:
Name one. Companies spend wayyyyy too much money on developing locks that attempt to replicate the durability of a fixed blade, but will always fall short. Moving parts means wear. KISS-use the right tool for the job. Folders are fine for convenient cutting, but these BUCK/TOPS folders, big ZT's, HEST folder, the Griptilian... all these 'hard use' folders for outdoors you're paying excess money just for that lock that still won't hold up to the abuse a fixed blade can. This is why slipjoints, friction locks and other traditional blades are perfectly sufficient for their roles-slicing/cutting tasks.
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No such thing as excess money!!
 
xxkid123 said:
lot's of people doubt slipjoints as a heavy use knife and all. i don't get it. I've used a slipjoint from my grandpa (at least 50-60 years old) and it's never failed, from spinewack tests, cutting through massive branches, and anything in between. i would rather use a slipjoint that a knife with a linerlock, frame lock, lockback, axis, etc if i the drawbacks weren't so much for so little (slipjoints tend to not be as tacticool as liner locks and if it opened as easy, since slipjoints tend to be tight). it annoys me when someone goes like, "nice knife, but it probably would fail easier since it's a slipjoint". really?
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I like slipjoints just fine - there's one in my back left pocket right now (SAK Pioneer). But if you've ever had a slippie close on you when it shouldn't, you'd appreciate a lock. I may think that some of the recent video hard use tests are overkill, but that doesn't mean locks aren't useful and valuable.
 
JNewell said:
I like slipjoints just fine - there's one in my back left pocket right now (SAK Pioneer). But if you've ever had a slippie close on you when it shouldn't, you'd appreciate a lock. I may think that some of the recent video hard use tests are overkill, but that doesn't mean locks aren't useful and valuable.
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I've had a slip joint close on me when I was using it incorrectly. Is that what you mean?
 
xxkid123 said:
lot's of people doubt slipjoints as a heavy use knife and all. i don't get it. I've used a slipjoint from my grandpa (at least 50-60 years old) and it's never failed, from spinewack tests, cutting through massive branches, and anything in between. i would rather use a slipjoint that a knife with a linerlock, frame lock, lockback, axis, etc if i the drawbacks weren't so much for so little (slipjoints tend to not be as tacticool as liner locks and if it opened as easy, since slipjoints tend to be tight). it annoys me when someone goes like, "nice knife, but it probably would fail easier since it's a slipjoint". really?
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how the hell do you do a sucesssful spinewack test on a slipjoint? do you zip-tie the blade to that of an XM-18? :p

slipjoints WILL slip, hence the name.
 
Guyon said:
Ken, I was just wondering yesterday where you'd gotten to 'round these parts. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.
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I've been around, we just keep missing each other,lol. Just sent you a PM.

Guyon said:
My guess is that the OP has run up on folks who have poo-pooed slipjoints face-to-face.
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I think that has to be the case.

babakanoosh45 said:
I like all knives including serrated plastic butter knives.
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Good one:thumbup::D I like those little things to at times!

Guyon said:
Well... except for Cold Steel... right? ;) :D :p
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Now that just gave me a good laugh:D:D
 
xxkid123 said:
lot's of people doubt slipjoints as a heavy use knife and all. i don't get it. I've used a slipjoint from my grandpa (at least 50-60 years old) and it's never failed, from spinewack tests, cutting through massive branches, and anything in between. i would rather use a slipjoint that a knife with a linerlock, frame lock, lockback, axis, etc if i the drawbacks weren't so much for so little (slipjoints tend to not be as tacticool as liner locks and if it opened as easy, since slipjoints tend to be tight). it annoys me when someone goes like, "nice knife, but it probably would fail easier since it's a slipjoint". really?
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im not one to bash slipjoints, i have a few. however modern knives are infinitely more useful for several reasons.
1. better materials, especially with blade steels
2. one handed opening could save your life if you were ever assaulted, while someone with a slipjoint would have to fumble and use both hands to open their blade
3. modern locking mechanisms ARE actually stronger, no doubt
4. more variety with modern knives
5. more innovation
 
Guyon said:
I whack all my Peanuts. If they don't pass muster, they're on to the trash bin before you can say Jiminy Cricket.


Edited to add: No, you cannot go through my garbage. Stop PM'ing me.

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But I have to go through your garbage, it's my duty!

"No peanut shall be left behind!"
 
mk.ultra said:
im not one to bash slipjoints, i have a few. however modern knives are infinitely more useful for several reasons.
1. better materials, especially with blade steels
2. one handed opening could save your life if you were ever assaulted, while someone with a slipjoint would have to fumble and use both hands to open their blade
3. modern locking mechanisms ARE actually stronger, no doubt
4. more variety with modern knives
5. more innovation
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Case' CV steel is widely considered one of the best high carbon blade materials on the market, so your first point is pretty moot.
I can one hand open all of my slipjoints-it's just a different motion. Grab the blade with your forefinger and thumb and pull out the handle with your pinkie. It's not hard to do, just different.
Modern locking mechanisms aren't needed for simple cutting tasks. If you need something of more durability, stick to a fixed blade.
More variety of marketing BS too.
Innovation? Who needs innovation when traditional slipjoint designs have been used for centuries for extensive working use?
I'm not saying locking knives aren't useful-I own a handful and they get the job done-but like I said, I never use em for more than simple cutting tasks anyway, so a locking folder isn't going to do me any more good than a slippie or friction lock anyway.
 
Opening slipjoints one handed seems like a good way to lose a fingertip. I'll stick to using both hands.
 
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