what's wrong whit Buck Knives?

Guyon said:
I have nothing bad to say about the 110. It's one of the biggest bargains in the knife world. US made and dependable. I like my BG42 Bucks most of all, but I also have 440C, 425M, ATS-34, S30V, and 420HC. I will try the 5160 because I'd love to see a 110 with some patina.

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How do you like the one in CPM-154 ?
 
lionknife said:
How do you like the one in CPM-154 ?
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Don't have it. The 154CM version was a Bass Pro model. But ATS-34 and 154CM are basically the same (one is Hitachi, the other Crucible). I have a ATS-34 blade from back when the Custom Shop would do blade swaps. Good stuff. I've liked ATS-34 since my first Spyderco with the steel.

I don't have CPM-154 either (also a BP release?). I understand it's more on a par with S30V. I do have the Cabela's S30V blade. Actually haven't used it much though.
 
pinnah said:
RedLynx,

No nick. That's an older "2-dot" 112 with 440C. They didn't have nicks back then and they also have a funny semi-hollow grind that is quite thick near the edge.

I end up carrying the 500 Duke more often and the 110 is an icon, of course. But I think the 112 is the most visually pleasing, particularly in hand. There's just something about the lines that work.

As a knife, the 112 is something like a shot of Wild Turkey. It's a brick. No excuses. Either adapt to belt carry (I can't or won't) or man up and accept the weight and bulk in the pocket. That's why I generally drift back to the 500. Still... the 112 is just so beautiful, imo. Here it is on it's own.

Buck 112 by Pinnah, on Flickr


BTW, no nick is no issue, at least for me. There's a lot of blade above the well and easy to pinch open and even one hand open (if you're old enough to know how).
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I'm so happy with the 110 that I've never given the 112 serious consideration...................and my back pocket already has a Case Large Stockman. But your post has given me the nudge to try the 112. I'll start by putting it on my Christmas wish list. If that doesn't pan out, I'll order one.
 
I like my Buck knives.
I think my first knife was a Buck, my son's first knife was a Buck and I have seen to it that a few other young men had Buck for their first knife.
Not to suggest they are only good for " first" knives. I use one often & have seen a few I would like get.
 
I have had 7 buck knives and I have been disappointed with several of them. It sounds like there's some fans here, but I've had 2 broken tips and I never thought they took or held a very good edge. I imagine a company as big as buck probably has different product lines that are made and heat treated in various locations, so I doubt they're all the same. All the bucks I had cost $80 dollars or less, and I'm sure their higher end knives are better, but I personally think Schrades are the better value. I've had good luck with them, and for me they've taken a better edge and more abuse. I would also prefer a Case or even a Mora over a Buck. Just my personal experience.
 
Seriously, MORAs are super slicers, not a tool for "heavy point work."

Not that I have ever broken the tip on any knife, not even the POSs I wasted my money on as a kid. "Not a screwdriver. Not a pry-bar." Don't stab much, so the point is just the end of the edge. But YMMV.

My Schrades are all U.S.A. items. (Just got a 165OT.) I have no experience with the CHINA Schrades. I always found Bucks to be a distinct cut above Schrades.

The complaints I read about BUCks are about F&F, inclusive of wiggle. I have not heard that they break apart in use, but any knife can break and any company can have lemons.
 
The Buck 110 of today, sure has much better F&F than the old Schrade LB7 made in the USA. They even feel better in your hand.
 
Well, since this thread got necroed, I'll chime is with what's wrong with Buck knives. The jerks have only made one flipper with the SLS system they licensed from G&G Hawk! Seriously, Buck, the Marksman is bloody fantastic, give me an SLS flipper with a 4" clip point S30V blade and some G10 scales.
 
Jerks? Have you met the people from Buck? My wife and I visit the Buck plant every couple weeks. They are a fantastic bunch of people. Their warranty department is top notch. It would be appreciated if the word Jerks was not used. As long as Buck has been around I would say nothing is wrong with them.
 
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Makael said:
Jerks? Have you met the people from Buck? My wife and I visit the Buck plant every couple weeks. They are a fantastic bunch of people. Their warranty department is top notch. It would be appreciated if the word Jerks was not used. As long as Buck has been around I would say nothing is wrong with them.
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It was an attempt at humor, apologies if it was misconstrued.
 
Guyon said:
Don't have it. The 154CM version was a Bass Pro model. But ATS-34 and 154CM are basically the same (one is Hitachi, the other Crucible).
I don't have CPM-154 either (also a BP release?). I understand it's more on a par with S30V. I do have the Cabela's S30V blade. Actually haven't used it much though.
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Guy, the American made 154CM is a good step above the Japanese Hitachi made ATS-34 steel. Because of it's vacuuam- remelt process. This steel comes out cleaner, more pure. Then Crucible took it a huge step up in making CPM154. Yes, it does compare with S30V--- even better in edge holding. Plus without vanadium in the mix it's easier to sharpen. Then the Bass Pro & Cabela's models you mention are made with a very hard blade coating. Taking those models way up the ladder. DM
 
The newer Buck knives do have quite a bit of quality control issues. I bought the 50th anniversary 110 in 2014 and the pin fell out of the knife in less than a year and I barely used the knife. It wouldn't lock up anymore after the pin fell out.

I still haven't sent it to Buck yet to be repaired, but I will soon.

I know some people who still carry the old 110s that don't have the rounded brass bolsters and those 110s were built better and last longer.
 
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