What's you all in 1 survival tool?

Thats a really tough one, and leaves a lot to be considered.

A knife is the obvious answer, as without it you can't construct any of the other things I would want to have like fire, containers, cordage, shelter etc...

I guess it would have to be my Mora No 1. Its one of my most used knives (second is my Mora Companion). I'd be tempted to take my Victorinox Farmer for the saw and awl, but I wouldn't want that particular knife as my only blade. It does make a great secondary knife though.

If I have a firesteel, some tinder, some paracord, and a mini diamond stone attached to my sheath does that still count as 1 tool?
 
marcinek said:
You can't do anything without experience and your imagination. A knife, or a hatchet, or a fgire steel, or a water bottle is not going to magically give you skills. They are useless without skills.
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Yea I thought that was the whole selling point behind the bushcraft culture was the skills and not about which tool everyone uses.

In the chef world no one has a one tool that gets you through service and pays the rent...unfortunately
 
Well my first flippant thought was a cell phone so I could order pizza and a cab while making my way out of the woods. This martin knife however is one I've used quite a bit in the woods and contains most of what I need in an emergency. Canteen on my belt provides water and a vessel to cook in.

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Fire can be made without a knife, as well as shelter.. the more knowledge you have the less you need other things.
collim1 said:
Thats a really tough one, and leaves a lot to be considered.

A knife is the obvious answer, as without it you can't construct any of the other things I would want to have like fire, containers, cordage, shelter etc...

I guess it would have to be my Mora No 1. Its one of my most used knives (second is my Mora Companion). I'd be tempted to take my Victorinox Farmer for the saw and awl, but I wouldn't want that particular knife as my only blade. It does make a great secondary knife though.

If I have a firesteel, some tinder, some paracord, and a mini diamond stone attached to my sheath does that still count as 1 tool?
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Exactly. How many years did native american tribes get along just fine in your woods without?
 
TheBushWookie said:
As the title says if you had to choose one what would be your all in 1 bushcraft/survival tool?
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Me personally I use my brain, and things I have learn in life to survive. Keyboard Commandos, and those who watch TV Survival Shows will wish they had been Boy Scouts, or U.S. Military Members when called upon to live or die.
 
marcinek said:
You keep opening threads on the same subject, as if the right "survival" knife is going to magically turn somebody into an expert.

The fact is, is that you could have the "best tools" in the world but without a skill set, you are done for.

Unless, of course, by "survival" you are talking about outdoor recreation... which most people seem to be. Then it really doesn't matter.
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Wow, jaded much? Show better form! No need to constantly turn these threads into philosophy debates. Answer the OP or refrain from commenting. You seem to like doing that. I seem to be getting tired of it :yawn:

Find another way of showing you have knowledge and passion for this hobby.
 
I'll play along, but in the spirit of "all in one" knives, I have four different answers. I think my first choice would be my Ontario SP25, which took the classic pilot survival knife and refined it a bit. It has (in my opinion) a better grip than the original, the steel butt-cap for hammering, and is a good size for most tasks. The Ontario SP41 would be a suitable alternative if I needed a flat grind for better slicing capabilities, at the expense of some thickness. For more specialized purposes - but still useful to me in lieu of more appropriate tools - I like the Condor Multi Knife II as a chopper and the SOG Team Leader Survivor (TL-02 version) as a saw substitute.

But yeah . . . SP25 in first place.
 
TheBushWookie said:
I'm talking about actual tools because face it you could be the smartest man in the world but without a tool of some sorts you're kinda screwed.
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I thought tod21969 had a great response.

So snap-on tools are buchscraft acceptable? Sweet.
 
I don't really find anything jaded in his response. No offense meant, but he's right in that most people who open these kinds of threads are really only looking for cool stuff for outdoor recreation. A lot of people DO think a great knife/whatever is doing to drastically increase their odds of survival in a dangerous situation. But that isn't true. We even get "what's your last ditch apocalypse survival knife choice?" threads at least once a month. Which is great, I actually find some suggestions entertaining and even insightful. But to not say what he said above, or something similar, would I feel be doing a grave disservice. We know it's true and we need to steer people in the right direction.

Much like Flitz, he's only mildly abrasive, and mild abrasives are sometimes helpful. :D

bush-haus said:
Wow, jaded much? Show better form! No need to constantly turn these threads into philosophy debates. Answer the OP or refrain from commenting. You seem to like doing that. I seem to be getting tired of it :yawn:

Find another way of showing you have knowledge and passion for this hobby.
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To go a bit further, we can explore the "SHTF" philosophy a bit, a topic that also comes up once a month or more. People can get obsessed over the best, most indestructible survival tool. It's all good, live and let live, and I like to browse those threads to see if their are any cool knives.

But

Most of the more robust, best knives, are not ones regular folk are likely to even have when S hits the F. The absolute best, most rugged, toughest knife I have is from Ontario, I think the model is the SP-14 but I could be mis-remembering. It's a great knife. It's sharp, long, and solid. It's not the greatest knife ever, just the "best" one in my own collection in terms of all around SHTF. But 99.2% of the time, that knife is not going to be with me when anything goes wrong. I just don't carry it hardly ever. It doesn't fit into my day to day life very well, even as cool as it is. It's more likely a Sod Buster or Trapper, or more modern but way smaller folding knife like a Kershaw will be on my person when I'm out and about. And therein lies the crux of this stuff.

90% of the stuff suggested in these kinds of threads, while fun and useful, will almost certainly not be with you when something happens, unless you get to have a cool job in the woods where no one looks at you funny or causes trouble. And that trumps literally everything else. I could have the biggest baddest most guaranteed to see me through any scenario knife in the world. But if it ain't with me, it might as well be M-Tech.

That's why when people ask these questions, it does smack of "occasional outdoor recreation" rather than "give me a knife I can always have no matter what, to keep me alive."

But again, nothing wrong with these threads or discussions at all, just as their is nothing wrong with waxing philosophical about it.
 
I'm not sure how this turned into people thinking I opened this thread to buy a cool new toy and also to start a debate on survival philosophy but let me clear some things up. 1st I didn't start this to get a new toy I started it because I was simply curious as to what others would pick, 2nd I understand you need knowledge and skills to survive, earlier I decided to turn stupid for a split second and posted that comment without thinking, 3rd and finally I understand a good set of skills is key to survival but my question isn't about skills it's if you had to choose 1 tool to serve as your all in 1 survival tool what would it be? For the record as well I'm not counting skills/knowledge as a "tool" you automatically have them no matter what I'm simply asking about a physical tool.
 
bush-haus said:
Wow, jaded much? Show better form! No need to constantly turn these threads into philosophy debates. Answer the OP or refrain from commenting. You seem to like doing that. I seem to be getting tired of it :yawn:

Find another way of showing you have knowledge and passion for this hobby.
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You are right. No use dragging boring "thinking" into threads.
 
While its true that most of this is a fruitless fantasy discussion I have had things go badly wrong on a hunting trip and once on a backpacking trip. I learned from those and that did change what I carry on me in the woods. Day to day is a different matter, while I have a emergency pack and tools in the vehicle in case of whatever and that includes a good belt knife as well as other things. Just walking around town or a store I'm not carrying a 9 inch blade belt knife.
 
RedLynx said:
To go a bit further, we can explore the "SHTF" philosophy a bit, a topic that also comes up once a month or more. People can get obsessed over the best, most indestructible survival tool. It's all good, live and let live, and I like to browse those threads to see if their are any cool knives.

But

Most of the more robust, best knives, are not ones regular folk are likely to even have when S hits the F. The absolute best, most rugged, toughest knife I have is from Ontario, I think the model is the SP-14 but I could be mis-remembering. It's a great knife. It's sharp, long, and solid. It's not the greatest knife ever, just the "best" one in my own collection in terms of all around SHTF. But 99.2% of the time, that knife is not going to be with me when anything goes wrong. I just don't carry it hardly ever. It doesn't fit into my day to day life very well, even as cool as it is. It's more likely a Sod Buster or Trapper, or more modern but way smaller folding knife like a Kershaw will be on my person when I'm out and about. And therein lies the crux of this stuff.

90% of the stuff suggested in these kinds of threads, while fun and useful, will almost certainly not be with you when something happens, unless you get to have a cool job in the woods where no one looks at you funny or causes trouble. And that trumps literally everything else. I could have the biggest baddest most guaranteed to see me through any scenario knife in the world. But if it ain't with me, it might as well be M-Tech.

That's why when people ask these questions, it does smack of "occasional outdoor recreation" rather than "give me a knife I can always have no matter what, to keep me alive."

But again, nothing wrong with these threads or discussions at all, just as their is nothing wrong with waxing philosophical about it.
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I will admit that my first posts I made were mainly looking for a cool indestructible knife for recreational fun but this thread is purely based on curiosity to see what other people would choose as an all in 1 tool they could have in an actual survival situation, I already have my recreational knives I was looking for and 1 of them i do plan on carrying at all times wherever I go.
 
RedLynx said:
I don't really find anything jaded in his response. No offense meant, but he's right in that most people who open these kinds of threads are really only looking for cool stuff for outdoor recreation. A lot of people DO think a great knife/whatever is doing to drastically increase their odds of survival in a dangerous situation. But that isn't true. We even get "what's your last ditch apocalypse survival knife choice?" threads at least once a month. Which is great, I actually find some suggestions entertaining and even insightful. But to not say what he said above, or something similar, would I feel be doing a grave disservice. We know it's true and we need to steer people in the right direction.

Much like Flitz, he's only mildly abrasive, and mild abrasives are sometimes helpful. :D
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Nobody except those that favor a little drama in their lives come to the forum to read cynicism. I completely agree that this thread was questionable in that the OP suggests one MUST have a tool to "survive" but lot of us get sick of the constant and predictable path these threads follow.
 
Personally I wouldn't mind a Woodman's Pal for my all in 1 tool for a hypothetical survival situation, That or a Busse TGLB because that's the sort of knife I can only dream about getting my hands on.
 
One man's cynicism is just another man's realism. At any rate, I agree that these threads are predictable. Most threads are. You've been here long enough that if I asked you to outline in bullet points the predictable path of, say, a "recommend a good $30 knife for me please" thread, I bet you could do it with a reasonable degree of accuracy. I know I could. It's just the way it goes.

bush-haus said:
Nobody except those that favor a little drama in their lives come to the forum to read cynicism. I completely agree that this thread was questionable in that the OP suggests one MUST have a tool to "survive" but lot of us get sick of the constant and predictable path these threads follow.
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TheBushWookie said:
I will admit that my first posts I made were mainly looking for a cool indestructible knife for recreational fun but this thread is purely based on curiosity to see what other people would choose as an all in 1 tool they could have in an actual survival situation, I already have my recreational knives I was looking for and 1 of them i do plan on carrying at all times wherever I go.
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Yeah, I think I remember you mentioned you already found what your favorite tools are. Good on ya and more power to you. I don't necessarily group you in with the same people that are always coming here thinking they need the next big thing in survival... you really don't seem that type. So I guess my response wasn't specifically directed at you, just "threads like this" in general. Which, again, can also be chock full of knowledge, with a grain of salt or two.
 
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