When moderators aren't moderate....

[Rat Finkenstein]

Well Now! I don't wanna say anything out of pure, ummm....haste, BUT I think we would all like to know something about the connection of the moderators little lights off, lights on, round thingy. Anybody notice besides me that they can respond in seconds to a thread without even seeing a light on. MEANING I believe their balls are always BLUE:yawn:

Interesting. . . a "Blue balls" theory.
What color is my ball?

Maybe it is invisible mode? Maybe they like being mysterious?

 

[Cindy Denning]

Interesting. . . a "Blue balls" theory.
What color is my ball?

Maybe it is invisible mode? Maybe they like being mysterious?

You're Blue too, baby. Just like a peepin' Tom I say.

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

*heavy breathing*
I see you Cindy! Hahahaha!

 

[GigOne]

You can only see certain people active. . . .when you put an aluminum hat on or if you hear little, black helicopters at night.

 

[Cindy Denning]

You can only see certain people active. . . .when you put an aluminum hat on or if you hear little, black helicopters at night.

Pretty disturbing but all systems say Go. Back to you Houston

 

[Bronco]

In geothorn's particular case, my records indicate that he's availed himself of the thread reporting utility only once so far this year.

I'll further add that in the one instance where geo did use the reporting function, his concerns were addressed rather quickly. He reported his concerns with post #54 of a particular Political Arena thread. I reviewed the post in question, agreed with his concerns, and intervened at post #59. It would therefore seem to me that there's still room to operate within the current system.

 

[Bastid]

It would therefore seem to me that there's still room to operate within the current system.

I agree as long as we are dealing with common sense aided and reasonable people.

 

[Triton]

When it comes to

. . . .Triton and geothorn are attached at the hip.

Where did that one come from? So far as I know I've never whined about much of anything around here.

 

[Gollnick]

I think we would all like to know something about the connection of the moderators little lights off, lights on, round thingy. Anybody notice besides me that they can respond in seconds to a thread without even seeing a light on.

Actually, the NSA informs us when "traffic patterns" indicate that a liberal post may be eminent.

I believe their balls are always BLUE:yawn:

Ah... actually red... at least according to Mr. Geothorn.

 

[GigOne]

Pretty disturbing but all systems say Go. Back to you Houston

That's the ticket !

Where did that one come from? So far as I know I've never whined about much of anything around here.

I was pulling your chain a little. I also see that I left out one of these - - ->

 

[Suicycoprowler]

I'll further add that in the one instance where geo did use the reporting function, his concerns were addressed rather quickly. He reported his concerns with post #54 of a particular Political Arena thread. I reviewed the post in question, agreed with his concerns, and intervened at post #59. It would therefore seem to me that there's still room to operate within the current system.

If geothorn has neglected the use of the available tool, then it appears that the problem is his own doing. It would be a more legitimate gripe, imo, if he used the reporting function button but was ignored continuously.

The moderators are not robots (well, not to my knowledge anyway). They are prone to their own mistakes. I get a sense that they are really trying to keep the Political forum a place where ideas can be debated. I have seen them admonish members from all political viewpoints. That said, they can miss things. Using the reporting button flags problem posts and can bring it to their attention.


It is not the job of the moderators to agree with you or make other people agree with you.

 

[Gollnick]

It is not the job of the moderators to agree with you or make other people agree with you.

Amen.

Excellent point.

 

[Larry B.]

For the last 4 years georthorn has used BF for the sole purpose of exploiting the political forum with his anti- American and anti-Bush rhetoric. This dude so disgusts me that he is one of the reasons that I have not posted on the political forum anymore. Now it seems he is not content with just posting his views he is annoyed that the mods are not backing him up. All the while he chooses not to contribute one dollar to make sure that BF succeeds. He is a free loader who is annoyed that the people who run and assure that BF succeeds are not agreeing with him. To say that this dude grates on me is putting it mildly.

 

[geothorn]

Congratulations on contributing nothing to this thread but ridicule. Hopefully the moderators won't regard you as the troll that you, yourself, have shown yourself to be.

Now, I shall treat you with as little regard as you deserve. Have a nice day.

GeoThorn

 

[geothorn]

Oops, didn't know I stumbled into W&C here...

Yes, apparently, there are a lot of Whine & Cheesers having some fun here. I'm not too certain, however, because I haven't really participated in W&C since the Worse President thread, that was locked-up after the W&C moderator, TomW, was placed on probation for getting racial.

Politics is a hot/heated topic, and, how can it not be, when America is being kept in a permanently divided state, Republican and Democrat...? If a W&C moderator can lose his comportment and civility and start attacking someone because of their ancestry, well, I guess that politics is, indeed, something that cannot be discussed in "polite company," like religion....

I'd thought that W&C behavior was to be left in W&C...however, some members and moderators seem not to share that view.

GeoThorn

 

[GigOne]

Well said, Larry B. ! :thumbup:

Congratulations on contributing nothing to this thread but ridicule. Hopefully the moderators won't regard you as the troll that you, yourself, have shown yourself to be.

Interesting. . . .as I'm sure that quite a few people strongly believe the same about you. The only difference, instead of "ridicule," your contribution has been tunnel vision, narrow-mindedness, an inability to comprehend, and general stoopidity.

*sigh*

I'm sure that you're proud of your weakdick chest puffery.

Next time. . . . . .bring a chest !

 

[smegs]

Your fight is in vain. They care that you are making them feel uncomfortable. So they will shut you up unless you shut yourself up first. The other stooges that chimed in here to make you feel like crap are borrowing power and trying to kiss up to the moderators. Like dogs sniffing around the alpha male.

No one has told Geo to shut up. Where did you get this idea.

 

[geothorn]

For the edification of geothorn, and anyone else who would care to join in the fun at the Political Arena, it must be noted that Spark has no requirement that the moderators there be politically agnostic. Rather, he graciously allows us to advocate and actively participate in threads according to whatever belief system we might hold. Thus, any attempt to equate our job with that of a moderator of a televised political debate is in err from the outset.

You are both a participant and a moderator in the Political Arena, and, only one of them should be ruled by your political beliefs. That isn't, however, how you allow the Political Arena to be run. You allow your fellow Bush Believers to run rough-shod over anyone that doesn't share your same political beliefs.

For your edification, that isn't moderating, when a member here can see your political biases, so clearly, in your moderating as well as your participation.

Instead, like all moderators at BFC, we are tasked with trying to minimize the occurrence of foul language, racial slurs, spam and, most importantly personal attacks. Add to that a couple of Political Arena specific restrictions on overtly religious content and hit-and-run postings, and you have a pretty good overall picture of our mandate. Still, being only human (and subject to all the constraints of time that families and careers demand of everyone), I, much more so than Ken, will occasionally miss an offending post. For that I apologize.

Wow, an apology. Thanks for that.

Are you going to apologize for the times that you've seen insults thrown at non-Bush Believers and you've chosen just to look the other way, because you firmly believe in the insult thrown, but, since you're loosely referred to as a "moderator," you couldn't get away with it, yourself...? Those are the "moderation" choices that I want an apology for.

You told SYK not to use a racist term and SYK just kept on using it. From that instance, it appears that even the Bush Believers don't respect and honor your position as "moderator," when you attempt to correct them, they typically pay you no heed, and nothing happens to them....

When these occasions do arise, the preferred course of action for the offended is to use the forum utility which allows for the reporting of a particular thread to the moderators. All too often, however, those offended choose rather to respond with a retaliatory post that is every bit as offensive or insulting as the original, if not more so. Hence Ken's frequent admonitions that forumites model the behavior they wish to see. In geothorn's particular case, my records indicate that he's availed himself of the thread reporting utility only once so far this year.

I can press a button...what happens then...? Nothing that I've seen.

Wouldn't it be great if "moderators" could tell 'troublesome' members to push a button that leads nowhere and does nothing perceptible...? That's what you seem to be suggesting that I do.

It's much more satisfying to confront the name-calling insulters, rather than to watch the "moderators" doing nothing....

Of course, it would be great if the level of discourse were to rise across the board in the PA, but, in lieu of participating in more ugly exchanges, perhaps this is a feature we can all endeavor to use more often in the future.

OK...I'll start pressing the button that hasn't shown me any results...and, if the Political Arena "moderators" seem to be failing at their, um, 'duty,' I'll continue to confront the Bush Believing that appear to always get away with acting badly....

GeoThorn

 

[geothorn]

No thanks, I've heard that the moderators are biased.

GigOne, why are you "contributing" to this thread? Is W&C just not this exciting...? Enjoying being a troll...?

Moderators, will you please tell this troll to return to his Pirate's Cove/W&C hole...?

GeoThorn

 

[Bronco]

On a more somber and serious note, it should be noted that a well developed persecution complex can be a harbinger of more serious mental health issues to come, if not treated properly. Thankfully, at present, the DSM IV does not view persecution complex as a separate clinical entity. Still, depending upon the number and severity of symptoms present, the jump from a mere persecution complex to a diagnosable Paranoid Personality Disorder (PPD) appears remarkably short.

"SUSPECT" is the common mnenomic used to identify the criteria for evaluating the likelihood of PPD in a patient:


S - spouse is cheating suspected
U - unforgiving - bears grudges
S - suspicious (of others)
P - perceives attacks (and reacts quickly)
E - enemy in everyone - suspects associates, friends
C - confiding in others feared
T - threats seen in benign events

Equally troubling, in light of the case at hand, is the recognition that sufferers of PPD often show an increased susceptibility to believing in or forming conspiracy theories. Other warning signs consistent with the escalation of the disease might include indications that a person has gone beyond merely seeing persecution in the actions of those around them, and now actively seeks out, invites and takes some perverse form of pleasure in additional persecution.

These are issues that shouldn't be taken lightly inasmuch as depression and other serious associated conditions can accompany this diagnosis. The good news is that, when treated properly, the vast majority of sufferers can lead perfectly normal and productive lives. In fact, some studies have suggested that significant relief can be achieved through the simple regulation of B12 levels. What we may be witnessing here are the early manifestations of what is essentially a cry for help. Despite the wonderful sense of community that defines this site, I doubt there is much that can be done on our end. Still, I sincerely hope that if a problem truly does exist, the cries won't go unheeded.